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 Post subject: Dont worry Lads..
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:04 am 
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...Limberick says we were unlucky !....in fact we should have won all home 3 games according to our fearless leader.

He must be the least lucky manager ever !
I feel for him a little as he has a tough hand but you can tell from the post match interviews he is out of his depth, the next bloke probably won't get much more of a shot but these 3 games and more importantly his response shows he isn't the answer---Hunter and ferguson should have been given an absolute rocket for those 2 goals we conceded but for the 3rd game running at home we drop points and no one is to blame but lady luck.

Then the usual excuses come out about missing players etc

He's picked up 2 points from 3 games 2 of which were against part times---its an abysmal return and to suggest its down to not having the rub of the green and being really pleased with how all the players performed is insulting to people giving up their time to watch----we don't have pickled onions for eyes !

He is going to get a rude awakening next home game as the fans have had it I suspect--he seems a likable bloke unlike Sarll but he's in for a tough time of it.


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 Post subject: Re: Dont worry Lads..
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:27 am 
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He's right- we should have WON all three games- we had more than enough chances to win SIX games. But the players need to take some responsibility too, for some shocking misses.

He seems a decent bloke and hope he is given a proper chance including the summer and the start of next season to put his own stamp on it.

He might not be the answer but to be fair he was handed a busted flush by Auld Len. I do get the impression that he's a bit too nice though - complete opposite of Snarl.

Axeing him at the end of the season serves no purpose and just leads to even more uncertainty. Assuming Raj is staying put- then we need to stick with him and hope he really is the Wizard of Oz!


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 Post subject: Re: Dont worry Lads..
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next 4 games 3 are away and the other is at home to York....he'll be formulating his excuses already!


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 Post subject: Re: Dont worry Lads..
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:18 am 
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No way Skippy starts next season.
Will destroy ST sales even more.
And that's not including the worst cost of living crisis ever from April.
And then fans get used to not going.
New Ownership and patience required to fix this mess.

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 Post subject: Re: Dont worry Lads..
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:54 am 
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...Limberick says we were unlucky !....in fact we should have won all home 3 games according to our fearless leader.

He must be the least lucky manager ever !
I feel for him a little as he has a tough hand but you can tell from the post match interviews he is out of his depth, the next bloke probably won't get much more of a shot but these 3 games and more importantly his response shows he isn't the answer---Hunter and ferguson should have been given an absolute rocket for those 2 goals we conceded but for the 3rd game running at home we drop points and no one is to blame but lady luck.

Then the usual excuses come out about missing players etc

He's picked up 2 points from 3 games 2 of which were against part times---its an abysmal return and to suggest its down to not having the rub of the green and being really pleased with how all the players performed is insulting to people giving up their time to watch----we don't have pickled onions for eyes !

He is going to get a rude awakening next home game as the fans have had it I suspect--he seems a likable bloke unlike Sarll but he's in for a tough time of it.

We have to look at the attitude on the pitch…the one thing the manager has no control over, that’s a squad with too many 75 %er’s in a Pool’s shirt when we need 110%er’s on the pitch.

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 Post subject: Re: Dont worry Lads..
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:49 am 
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Apart from lapses for their goals we played well and were definitely the better side. Also the ref was shocking with everything seemingly going Altrinchams way including the handball given against Madine leading to their goal.
But the bottom line is that of all the chances we've created in those 3 games we haven't converted enough.
The season is dead now and Limbrick should be allowed the chance to finish the season and build for next, it's not as if we're getting played off the park or not competing.


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 Post subject: Re: Dont worry Lads..
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Apart from lapses for their goals we played well and were definitely the better side. Also the ref was shocking with everything seemingly going Altrinchams way including the handball given against Madine leading to their goal.
But the bottom line is that of all the chances we've created in those 3 games we haven't converted enough.
The season is dead now and Limbrick should be allowed the chance to finish the season and build for next, it's not as if we're getting played off the park or not competing.

plus you cannot say the team is letting him down. football wise last night was poor but the attitude of the players was not. even the much maligned sloggett put a shift in and was involved. it cannot be good for the players at the vic with so many actually wanting players they do not rate to cock it up. bet some cannot wait to get on the coach to play away without having to play in a cauldron of hate. there is nowhere better than the vic when we are winning but totally opposite the other way around.


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 Post subject: Re: Dont worry Lads..
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A little bit of luck and / or composure in front of goal in all 3 games was missing. Without being brilliant we created 38 shots with 23 on target but only 3 goals scored says it all.
Didn't think anyone had a stinker last night and thought Sloggett and Miley did well in centre midfield with Miley looking better as the game went on. We might have a decent player there.
Cleary was excellent, but when they put 2 or 3 on him how come we couldn't find gaps?
Might as well start focusing on getting game time into the players that are likely to be here still next season and see what they're made of. Those on their way will definitely be on the beach already.


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 Post subject: Re: Dont worry Lads..
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PTID wrote:
A little bit of luck and / or composure in front of goal in all 3 games was missing. Without being brilliant we created 38 shots with 23 on target but only 3 goals scored says it all.
Didn't think anyone had a stinker last night and thought Sloggett and Miley did well in centre midfield with Miley looking better as the game went on. We might have a decent player there.
Cleary was excellent, but when they put 2 or 3 on him how come we couldn't find gaps?
Might as well start focusing on getting game time into the players that are likely to be here still next season and see what they're made of. Those on their way will definitely be on the beach already.

well nobody out there last night looked to be getting their speedo,s on just yet and gave the impression of doing their best for their current club. even at this stage of the season you could tell in the past that some had left the club in their minds already.


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 Post subject: Re: Dont worry Lads..
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plus you cannot say the team is letting him down. football wise last night was poor but the attitude of the players was not. even the much maligned sloggett put a shift in and was involved. it cannot be good for the players at the vic with so many actually wanting players they do not rate to cock it up. bet some cannot wait to get on the coach to play away without having to play in a cauldron of hate. there is nowhere better than the vic when we are winning but totally opposite the other way around.


Think that's a bit unfair on the Vic faithful - there's a lot more sarcasm directed at individual players online than there is at the match.

There's a ton of frustration though at the number of times this last week that the ball has ping ponged around inside the opposition's 6 yard box without ever going into the net. One mad old bugger was going his ends at Madine, calling him 'Washing Machine' and 'Hotpoint.' Think he might be related to Loyal :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Dont worry Lads..
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Think most thought it's going to be one of those nights, again, where we'd never score.
Don't think many saw the goals coming for them because they'd created very little and didn't really look dangerous, even on the break.
I agree there didn't seem to be much barracking of any of the players from what I heard. Limbrick was getting stick after the final whistle though.


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 Post subject: Re: Dont worry Lads..
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Cleary was excellent, but when they put 2 or 3 on him how come we couldn't find gaps?


I was wondering that myself - then I remembered that most of the time we're in possession we either pass it inch perfectly to the opposition, get tackled or hoof it blindly up the pitch (so they didn't need to worry about us finding gaps).


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 Post subject: Re: Dont worry Lads..
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PTID wrote:
A little bit of luck and / or composure in front of goal in all 3 games was missing. Without being brilliant we created 38 shots with 23 on target but only 3 goals scored says it all.
Didn't think anyone had a stinker last night and thought Sloggett and Miley did well in centre midfield with Miley looking better as the game went on. We might have a decent player there.
Cleary was excellent, but when they put 2 or 3 on him how come we couldn't find gaps?
Might as well start focusing on getting game time into the players that are likely to be here still next season and see what they're made of. Those on their way will definitely be on the beach already.


Everyone entitled to their opinion but I have a very different view of teh last 3 games and last night--and our points return probably tells an accurate story

I thought Sloggett tried his best but isnt the required standard--Miley is still young but needs to be a bit braver.
Overall this is one of the lowest quality teams we have ever had---Cleary aside who is on a short term loan, and Madine who is clearly a good player but past his prime.
Just go through last nights 1st 11

Smith--Decent enough for this level
Hunter--Underwhelming, not a centre back and clearly at fault for first goal
Ferguson--Been here for years and done nothing but stagnate--he'll still be here underperforming when hes 40 and ready to beat 'club legend' featherstone appearance record
Waterfall--Big disappointment this season another who is past it
Stephenson--young kid, may get better but not good enough currently
Cleary--Above our level but probaly gone next month
Sloggett-Playing at least 1 and probably 2 levels higher than he should be--tries hard to run around but so would my dog if I let him out on the pitch
Miley--Too early to tell needs to be more on front foot
Campbell--Massive disappointment this year--getting sucked into the Pools generated black hole which makes even decent players worse
Mani D - good player at this level but out of form and will be on his toes at season end
Folarin--Too early to say, looked lively but maybe lacking composure


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 Post subject: Re: Dont worry Lads..
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We were the better side last night. They created virtually nothing whereas we had more chances. They took theirs we didn't take ours.
Hunter made 1 mistake all night.
Waterfall had a good game and has been decent since he came back from his last suspension.
Miley was very good and was getting better as the game went on.
Madine made a difference and is a class act at this level.
Cleary was head and shoulders the best player on the park. Don't know how long he's here for but has limited options if he wants to play regularly (NL, Scotland, abroad)?
Who on their team stood out? The lad who scored the 1st is currently on fire but apart from his goal didn't do anything. Their midfield never got going with their usual passing game because our 3 central midfielders were very quick at closing them down.
A bad result for sure, but even some of their supporters said it was a real smash and grab.


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PTID wrote:
We were the better side last night. They created virtually nothing whereas we had more chances. They took theirs we didn't take ours.
Hunter made 1 mistake all night.
Waterfall had a good game and has been decent since he came back from his last suspension.
Miley was very good and was getting better as the game went on.
Madine made a difference and is a class act at this level.
Cleary was head and shoulders the best player on the park. Don't know how long he's here for but has limited options if he wants to play regularly (NL, Scotland, abroad)?
Who on their team stood out? The lad who scored the 1st is currently on fire but apart from his goal didn't do anything. Their midfield never got going with their usual passing game because our 3 central midfielders were very quick at closing them down.
A bad result for sure, but even some of their supporters said it was a real smash and grab.


Yeh every defeat or draw at home is just down to bad luck or not taking chances--IMO we were sucker punched a bit with the goal, but it was down to incompetence, and then for the 2nd real weakness--on another night could we have won--maybe--but how many games this year have we got away with it?
3 home games and zero wins--that isnt down to a bit of bad luck or wayward finishing--we are a fundamentally poor side.


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5 home wins from 17 attempts this season, that stat says it all really..... woeful.

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
5 home wins from 17 attempts this season, that stat says it all really..... woeful.


We have been unlucky 12 times now this season at home must be a record :roll:


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loyal_fan wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
5 home wins from 17 attempts this season, that stat says it all really..... woeful.


We have been unlucky 12 times now this season at home must be a record :roll:


Only in happy clapper Rosetinter mickey mouse world.
We absolutely shite full club rotten to the core from top to bottom. :angry-tappingfoot:


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 Post subject: Re: Dont worry Lads..
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Luck is something that evens out over time. If one is 'unlucky' continually then it is a sign that there is something fundamentally wrong.
Pools' inability to execute the basic aim of the game, namely putting the ball in the opposition goal often enough, is a feature of the squad and has nothing to do with luck or lack of it!

If it were a case of being unlucky in some games then there would be a some games when we were not unlucky and there would be some 3 or 4 goal victories. However there have been no big wins which suggests that the ability to score enough goals is not there. Luck does not come into it for Pools. Barnet were unlucky to not beat Pools at the Vic and their subsequent games proved that to be true.

Unlike many, I think ManiD is an ordinary striker at NL level and focusing on him to be the main goal threat has been one of the problems this season. By contrast the Altrincham striker Linney is a good striker at NL level. He did next to nothing for 86 minutes but did the business when a chance came along. Goals win games, not possession!

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PTID wrote:
A little bit of luck and / or composure in front of goal in all 3 games was missing. Without being brilliant we created 38 shots with 23 on target but only 3 goals scored says it all.
Didn't think anyone had a stinker last night and thought Sloggett and Miley did well in centre midfield with Miley looking better as the game went on. We might have a decent player there.
Cleary was excellent, but when they put 2 or 3 on him how come we couldn't find gaps?
Might as well start focusing on getting game time into the players that are likely to be here still next season and see what they're made of. Those on their way will definitely be on the beach already.

well nobody out there last night looked to be getting their speedo,s on just yet and gave the impression of doing their best for their current club. even at this stage of the season you could tell in the past that some had left the club in their minds already.


If the effort levels are good and they have been these last 3 games.
And you don't win then that tells you the majority of the team just ain't good enough and that's in the worst standard 5th division ever.

Poor recruitment outweighing bad luck in the oppositions penalty area.

At least Skippy hasn't knocked out the.

On anutha day we win them games like the selfish LL who's played a huge part in destroying our club while servicing no. 1 very very nicely.

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well nobody out there last night looked to be getting their speedo,s on just yet and gave the impression of doing their best for their current club. even at this stage of the season you could tell in the past that some had left the club in their minds already.

I think certain players have been planning their next move from long before Xmas,
And it shows. :angry-tappingfoot:

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
5 home wins from 17 attempts this season, that stat says it all really..... woeful.

could be worse. we could have turned all those draws into defeats. one positive is the team looks fitter than it has been where we look stronger than most later on and not blowing from their arses for the last 10 minutes where we were always expecting the worst to happen. we need to finish the season as strong as possible if we want to make the best out of the budget available to recruit decent players. only the desperate ones would sign for a team below mid table as we will not be in a position to bribe players by offering top wages.


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Snowy wrote:
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well nobody out there last night looked to be getting their speedo,s on just yet and gave the impression of doing their best for their current club. even at this stage of the season you could tell in the past that some had left the club in their minds already.

I think certain players have been planning their next move from long before Xmas,
And it shows. :angry-tappingfoot:

must have watched a different game to me regarding their attitude. would not have made a difference really if we had kept a clean sheet and feathers goal was the decider. if you are right then who is going to sign a player with a bad attitude on top of the inability to put a shift in at their previous club.


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Unlucky yet again against Aldershot!

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