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 Post subject: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 11:43 am 
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after yet another kid if knifed to death does anybody else think the name of the accused should be given out to the general public when so called kids commit adult crimes. for me anyone over 12 who commits certain offences should be named and shamed. those live in the local area know their name anyway now so i cannot see the problem.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 11:59 am 
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Always made me wonder that ANY one who is obviously guilty should be given the same rights as a law abiding person.
Commit crimes of that nature and get what you deserve.


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 2:08 am 
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after yet another kid if knifed to death does anybody else think the name of the accused should be given out to the general public when so called kids commit adult crimes. for me anyone over 12 who commits certain offences should be named and shamed. those live in the local area know their name anyway now so i cannot see the problem.

Before they go to Court or after they have been to Court?? And if after they have been to Court and are found guilty of the crime??


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:43 am 
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Names would have to be revealed only after conviction…despite this, the accused’s identity will be known in the locality within hours of the event on the local grapevine.
Why the Country has to know is actually of little relevance and I’d imagine the family of the accused would also have to relocate especially if the have other children.
We live in a world where knife crime needs to stamped on…..stop and search and 5 years for even possession of a knife might concentrate minds instead of hand holding sessions.

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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:46 am 
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Preventation is Always better than Cure.

If only the powers to be would follow that simple philosophy.


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 8:57 am 
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Think the official crime stats show figures like 60% of knife crime (victims and perpetrators) are black even though only 13% of the population is black. Difficult to implement stop and search because the do gooders say too many coloured youths are stopped (even though they're the most likely to carry a blade). But it needs to happen with long sentences for possession, but also targeted education of those youths and their families needs to happen. At the end of the day what's important is preventing deaths and kids spending their lives in prison, not skin colour. Won't happen u till the government has the balls to recognise the root causes and legislate though, so not any time soon regardless of which party is in power.


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:00 am 
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The Tories n now Labour are importing more crimes into that country England that used to be ours.

Then when people protest they get treated worse than the foreign criminals.

Roll on Reform


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:09 am 
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The stats all say the same thing and indicate the likely folk to be involved in knife crime, so target prevention in those areas, it's common sense. Unfortunately when it's done it's called out as racist.
Screening target groups is done in many areas of health, so why not for society in general?
After all to send letters to black folk and screen them for sickle cell disease isn't racist is it? Stopping and searching likely knife carriers isn't either imo.


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:18 am 
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We need more Police on the beat on foot not sat in a patrol car and a huge recruitment drive starting with training on the beat not doing a university course first which could be part time inbetween.
My niece joined the Police from uni never spent 5 minutes on the beat, did all the required exams now a high ranking officer sat at a desk.


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:39 am 
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Jamie1952 wrote:
We need more Police on the beat on foot not sat in a patrol car and a huge recruitment drive starting with training on the beat not doing a university course first which could be part time inbetween.
My niece joined the Police from uni never spent 5 minutes on the beat, did all the required exams now a high ranking officer sat at a desk.

I agree 100% Jamie
A police sergeant told me all that was required of a policeman was the ability to handle themselves self and loads of common sense.
Degrees are an irrelevance and means you attract only a certain social group.
I agree that we need bobbies on the beat on a regular basis as the police react they when they should be preventing crime…..and no PCSO’s ….they’re just toothless security guards …’policing’ on the cheap.

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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:23 am 
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Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
We need more Police on the beat on foot not sat in a patrol car and a huge recruitment drive starting with training on the beat not doing a university course first which could be part time inbetween.
My niece joined the Police from uni never spent 5 minutes on the beat, did all the required exams now a high ranking officer sat at a desk.

I agree 100% Jamie
A police sergeant told me all that was required of a policeman was the ability to handle themselves self and loads of common sense.
Degrees are an irrelevance and means you attract only a certain social group.
I agree that we need bobbies on the beat on a regular basis as the police react they when they should be preventing crime…..and no PCSO’s ….they’re just toothless security guards …’policing’ on the cheap.

traffic wardens in high vis.


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:27 am 
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PTID wrote:
The stats all say the same thing and indicate the likely folk to be involved in knife crime, so target prevention in those areas, it's common sense. Unfortunately when it's done it's called out as racist.
Screening target groups is done in many areas of health, so why not for society in general?
After all to send letters to black folk and screen them for sickle cell disease isn't racist is it? Stopping and searching likely knife carriers isn't either imo.

its not racist if there is a call out that a black bloke in his early 20,s has been seen carrying a knife. it is if the call was for a white bloke doing the same and they stopped and searched black lads as well. feel many young niggers feel they should be allowed to do just what they like and be allowed to get away with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:32 am 
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MutleyRules wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
after yet another kid if knifed to death does anybody else think the name of the accused should be given out to the general public when so called kids commit adult crimes. for me anyone over 12 who commits certain offences should be named and shamed. those live in the local area know their name anyway now so i cannot see the problem.

Before they go to Court or after they have been to Court?? And if after they have been to Court and are found guilty of the crime??

only after a guilty verdict has been given. i,d actually take this a step further as nobody who had been proved not guilty for anythng should have their names disclosed. there are so many people quick to say that they were guilty anyway but got off with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:35 am 
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Jamie1952 wrote:
We need more Police on the beat on foot not sat in a patrol car and a huge recruitment drive starting with training on the beat not doing a university course first which could be part time inbetween.
My niece joined the Police from uni never spent 5 minutes on the beat, did all the required exams now a high ranking officer sat at a desk.

you said another thing there, your niece. how many times now do you see the police spokesman being a young looking high ranking female cop. talk about positive descrimination.


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:40 am 
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Snowy wrote:
Names would have to be revealed only after conviction…despite this, the accused’s identity will be known in the locality within hours of the event on the local grapevine.
Why the Country has to know is actually of little relevance and I’d imagine the family of the accused would also have to relocate especially if the have other children.
We live in a world where knife crime needs to stamped on…..stop and search and 5 years for even possession of a knife might concentrate minds instead of hand holding sessions.


Need to build a lot more prisons to accomdate them£££££££


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Preventation is Always better than Cure.

If only the powers to be would follow that simple philosophy.


Accountability sharpens the mind.


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
The Tories n now Labour are importing more crimes into that country England that used to be ours.

Then when people protest they get treated worse than the foreign criminals.

Roll on Reform


Its called an agenda Kevin.


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:45 am 
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Grayhoundend wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Names would have to be revealed only after conviction…despite this, the accused’s identity will be known in the locality within hours of the event on the local grapevine.
Why the Country has to know is actually of little relevance and I’d imagine the family of the accused would also have to relocate especially if the have other children.
We live in a world where knife crime needs to stamped on…..stop and search and 5 years for even possession of a knife might concentrate minds instead of hand holding sessions.


Need to build a lot more prisons to accomdate them£££££££

Simple, scrap net zero, there’ll be money to play with then.
Bring all prisons back under state contiol…Private Prisons are wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:48 am 
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accrington fan wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
We need more Police on the beat on foot not sat in a patrol car and a huge recruitment drive starting with training on the beat not doing a university course first which could be part time inbetween.
My niece joined the Police from uni never spent 5 minutes on the beat, did all the required exams now a high ranking officer sat at a desk.

you said another thing there, your niece. how many times now do you see the police spokesman being a young looking high ranking female cop. talk about positive descrimination.


Females in the Police appear to rise through the ranks rapidly, is it case that if they don’t move up they will take start talking about discrimination ?


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Snowy wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Names would have to be revealed only after conviction…despite this, the accused’s identity will be known in the locality within hours of the event on the local grapevine.
Why the Country has to know is actually of little relevance and I’d imagine the family of the accused would also have to relocate especially if the have other children.
We live in a world where knife crime needs to stamped on…..stop and search and 5 years for even possession of a knife might concentrate minds instead of hand holding sessions.


Need to build a lot more prisons to accomdate them£££££££

Simple, scrap net zero, there’ll be money to play with then.
Bring all prisons back under state contiol…Private Prisons are wrong.

agreed and not jailing people for hurty words on the internet either would help.


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2025 7:31 am 
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Jamie1952 wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
We need more Police on the beat on foot not sat in a patrol car and a huge recruitment drive starting with training on the beat not doing a university course first which could be part time inbetween.
My niece joined the Police from uni never spent 5 minutes on the beat, did all the required exams now a high ranking officer sat at a desk.

you said another thing there, your niece. how many times now do you see the police spokesman being a young looking high ranking female cop. talk about positive descrimination.


Females in the Police appear to rise through the ranks rapidly, is it case that if they don’t move up they will take start talking about discrimination ?

You are right there… there’s always some high ranking officer who looks about 23 who must have an ‘ology’ with a check out supervisor voice from some Uni ….what happened to on the job experience…all these fast track promotions for degree holders ain’t the answer.

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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
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originally the idea was good for recruiting more graduates but that was at the time when only the elite went to university and not the numbers that do now. like many experiments that go wrong they,ll not ditch them to get back to basics when times change.


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accrington fan wrote:
originally the idea was good for recruiting more graduates but that was at the time when only the elite went to university and not the numbers that do now. like many experiments that go wrong they,ll not ditch them to get back to basics when times change.


No different from apprentices in the trades nowadays, they send them to college for a couple years, come out with a load of certificates but couldn’t put a nut on a bolt.


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 Post subject: Re: Name And Shame
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It seems to be the case that women can make any claims about a man thereby ruining his career/life and then just walking away.
Both parties should be anonymous until proven true.

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Bluestreak wrote:
It seems to be the case that women can make any claims about a man thereby ruining his career/life and then just walking away.
Both parties should be anonymous until proven true.

made even worse when they call the accused by name and his address but the woman is called Miss X. then there is this new thing where women seem to jump on the compo bandwagon by saying this that and another about someone who has been dead for years and cannot defend themselves. ok do not ignore it but it should also be a win but no fee situation.


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