I looked around my kitchen today and counted 23 lethal weapons none of which came from Amazon. Had I gone into the shed or the garage I could have easily doubled that number.

It’s a complete red herring as pychopathic mutters will always find weapons. In my opinion the biggest culprit apart from the attacker himself are the parents and the reporting process. There were plenty of clues before this tragedy happened.

Starmer will always look for excuses to divert attention from the root cause of events that make him and his government look inadequate. So, if only Amazon hadn't sold the knife, the attack wouldn't have happened? Is that what we are being asked to accept? So its all Jeff Bezo's fault? Thats ok then.As long as its not the fault of the corrupt, embarrassing system that does fook all and has the full backing of Starmer. It obviously was not the fault of "Prevent" our so called anti-terrorist organization who ignored no less than THREE referrals about Rudakabana. Nope, nowt to do with them. Certainly not the fault of the human rights industry which gleerfully imports dubious citizens (like Rudakabana's parents) and to hell with the safety of British citizens and their children. Those poor little children didnt suffer because of these lefty establishment tossers who insist "diversity is our strength" when it so fooking obviously isn't.

I know Mutters can sometimes rub people up the wrong way but to call him pychopathic is a stretch

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The vast majority of these knife attacks by kids on kids are with these Zombie knives available to buy on amazon. It's seen as a status symbol to own these knives amongst the kids.
So you'se on this thread are saying amazon should be allowed to keep selling them to kids and Starmer should not try to get the sale of them banned...Really?? That's absolutely bewildering.
If Starmer was doing nothing you lot would be screaming from the roof tops.
The World's gone mad...on the bunker anyway.

It’s ‘Oooh look over there, not over here tactics’…..any fool knows obtaining a knife from a kitchen can have just as much damage as any other knife.

Starmer IS doing nothing to stem the root cause though, he's posturing by blaming Amazon when this monster was known to be a dangerous twat but not dealt with. Why wasn't he dealt with before his actions is the main question not where did he get the weapon from.

All this knife n gun crime imported into our England by the non English.
The drugs also imported also fuel this evil desease.

But obviously a minority of English will participate in these atrosities.

Plenty of good advice ignored from Lord Enoch.

This damage is now beyond repair.
That's the reality of modern day England.

The era of carpet sweeping for sure.

You obviously didn't read what I said about Zombie knives....no surprise there.

The vast majority of knife and gun crime is perpetrated by and against black and Asian people. Get to the bottom of that and fix it rather than blaming Amazon - people kill not knives and guns.
My assertion is based on freely available information from the ONS. If I can see it then why can't the supposedly clever folk running the country - previous and present?

I wanna go back to the previous government when there was no knife crime. Wowzers, and people thought moaning levels on the bunker were too high back then! I thought I was good at complaining but I guess you all proverbially gave me your beer to hold.

Really?..You must have been sitting in a meeting with Starmer to believe this ..What else did he come up with Child locks for every kitchen knife drawer in the UK?

Nobody has said knife crime didn't happen u der previous government's though have they? What most are saying is it's on the rise. Now if the bans and restrictions on the sale of zombie knives would fix the problem then why is it still rising when bans were put in place ages ago?
There's an infinite supply if deadly weapons available in almost every household should we ban them all or maybe it would be easier to crackdown on those who are likely to cause harm with them?
We don't ban the sale of car makes because an idiot or drunk or drugged driver happens to kill smeone whilst at the wheel, we imprison the individual, and we try to target and educate the likely offender groups. But that would mean admitting ethnicity and uncontrolled immigration is part of the problem and no government wants to upset that vipers nest.

They should be banned obviously because they’re shit bought by shit……but most people are stabbed with knives we all have in our house
Starmer is like the politicians before him who start mouthing off after the event and did fuck all before the event.
Hypocrites.

I agree and disagree. Folks are suggesting that the rise in knife crime is sudden, like most recent change in government sudden. It's bollocks of course.

I do think that is someone wants to commit knife crime then they will. An expert could say whether someone is significantly more dangerous with kitchen knives than zombie knives (thats for crime experts) but I wouldn't fancy being confronted by either.

I suppose the argument is what someone else mentioned, there is a 'cool' factor around zombie knives meaning they are more likely to be carried than someone who only has access to knives meant for food. Again that one is for experts.

More deflection, the question that needs to be addressed is Who and Why, not what with?
Incidentally gun crime is rising almost as quickly and predominantly disproportionately among the same ethnicities. Yet gun sales and ownership are very tightly regulated and legislated for.
Sort those involved out rather than skirting the edges of weaponry if you want to improve things. Simplistic yes, impossible no.

again its being lazy as knives are available to buy on line from other providers. its got to a point now when you buy on line its called buying from amazon as getting a taxi is called booking an uber.

if you mix with certain groups finding a gun will be easy. same as buying drugs if you are under a certain age where they know where to get them. i have no clue whatsoever where i could buy a gun or obtain drugs if i wanted them.

spot on. feel starmer wished the whole thing had never happened and thats not the death of the kids either. who is the main person to blame. the murderer or those who made it easy for him to enter the country to do the crime. feel the inhuman rights industry and the diversity lovers have as much blood on their hands as the murderer himself.

I was talking about kids stabbing kids. Zombie knives are a fashion accessory for them. Starmer is trying to make it harder for them to purchase them.
Can't believe I'm having to spell this out.

FFS...He was born in Wales.

I thought selling knives to under 18's was prohibited?
Yes by all means make sure that policy is in force and fine anyone who sells knives to minors.
But this kunt would have found a knive anyway to kill those girls so it is not the main issue to be talking about.
The bastard and his family should not have been in this country in the first place!!!!

Precisely. Starmer starts talking about how this monster got his knife to divert attention from some highly embarassing truths which Starmer does not want to be discussed. It so typical of Starmer. Remember in the aftermath of the Southport atrocity it was all about a Welsh schoolboy (lots of photographs) and the "far right". No one, not even MPs were allowed to say anything at all in case the trial was compromised. Has anyone heard of any trial in this country being abandoned because information about the suspect was discussed? Not one, ever. Starmer using every trick in the book to avoid the British public's attention being drawn to the grim reality of this case and by extension, others........ Rudakabana= son of a refugee. Manchester bomber= son of refugee. Killer of David Amess= son of a refugee. Is it me or is there a certain pattern? No, no, no. It just because Amazon sell Zombie knives. Give me strengh. Oh and of course we notice the mainstream press are colluding with Starmer in this diversionary tactic. What was the Mirror's headlines? "The Amazon Murderer". My only hope is that the British public are not as gullible as Starmer seems to think.

Starmer should resign, what an embarassment to a once great country!

His parents were granted asylum because of some link with genocides in Rwanda. The Manchester bombers family were also refugees as were the parents od David Amess's murderer. But lets not worry. Nothing to see here.

Some other globalist Kunt would just take up where he left off. Same if it was a Tory.

Take every knife of the market but anything can be made into a weapon to stab someone with, hasn’t there been cases of prisoners sharpening plastic tooth brushes to stab others with ?

Absolutely spot on.

He's been dubbed the "2 Click Killer" by 2 Tier Keir.
Snappy but totally irrelevant.

The kunt managed to get though the age verification needed for a knife on Amazon using false information.
Also the delivery driver is supposed to ask for age id as well.
Might as well arrest the delivery driver for delivering a potential murder weapon!!!!

Spot on. On the subject of vehicles: we know that terrorists have used lorries and vans to murder people. As you say, if there is intent, many things can be used as a weapon.

Starmer wants to implement new measures for buying knives online.
Oh goody, no more knife crime!!!!!

There's rules and regs already in place, unfortunately the bad guys don't take any notice. And Starmer was in charge of the CPS, he really should know better. Same as when he said in Parliament that Boris and Sunak were convicted criminals for the Covid parties when they weren't and he knew it. The lies and deflections are his first language.

Not sure which is worse, Starmer’s lies or his deflections. Either way he continues to prove that he is absolutely useless. We have had some some Godawful excuses for PMs under the Tories but this nugget is up there with the worst of them. He is a millstone around the UK’s neck and a national embarrassment. Lord knows what European and world leaders think of him - except Comrade Zelensky of course who will be jammed right up his backside.

Now it appears Starmer went to a party after his brief Southport visit.
The same man who had a go at the Tories for parties that happened the night before Prince Phillips funeral........

And?? What about all the UK born Murderers Oddie??

Difference is the country was in lockdown on the eve of Prince Philip’s funeral therefore the Tories were breaking the law, Starmer wasn’t breaking any laws was he although maybe not the most compassionate thing to do though.

Ok then....let's give out Zombie knives at school gates. And while we're at it let's make guns legal for everyone.

And open up our borders........

My God, you'd think the last government were brilliant or there was someone great waiting in the wings such is the level of moaning on here. I really don't know what it's motivated by. I get the feeling that there was a predisposition to dislike Labour on here. Are you all tories or followers of that loathsome shit weasel Farage instead? That might be even weirder. I can understand apathy, totally makes sense but thinking they are the answer is baffling.

Why complain about the Tories when they're powerless? It's up to the government of the day to manage the issues of the day. Cracking down on Amazon is not going to even paper over any cracks, we all know that but it avoids the elephant in the room.

And?? What about all the UK born Murderers Oddie??

Axel Rudakubana - UK born
Michael Adebolajo - UK born
Michael Adebowale - UK born
Salman Abedi - UK born
Hashem Abedi - UK born

Ali Harbi Ali - UK born

And there's a better starting point, crackdown on people which have links to terrorist groups regardless of where they were born. In fact make it illegal to be associated with a terrorist group. Oh shit it already is, but those pesky radicalised monsters aren't following the rules.

No one has said there was no knife crime under the Tories so I dont understand what you are talking about. Under the Tories knife crime increased steadily particularly in London but there was no knife related atrocity to match what happened at Southport either under the Tories or in the history of the country as far as I know. People are quite rightly angered by what happened and angered by Starmer's way of dealing with this. Which is mainly deflection (Amazon knife sales for fooks sake) and callining anyone who opposes him far right. I must be honest here: it fooking sickens me. So I will moan about this on an epic scale because very few things have angered me more than the Southport attack and Starmer doing everything he can to supress the truth. Sorry if you dont like complaing but I wont be stopping.

Well said Ozzy, we will keep complaining until our voices are heard!

I will spell it out. A man purchased a knife and then took a taxi to a place he knew some small girls were having a dance class. He then proceeded to stab to death as many of the children he could. He stabbed them multiple times. Can you imagine the horror and fear those children went through? Ten others were stabbed but not killed. How can they or others in the room ever get over this? Our Prime minister then imposes a news black out and the families of the victims are not allowed to speak and anyone who tried to discuss the issue on line was threatened with prosecution and some are actually jailed for their on line activity. He accuses people of spreading disinformation but allows the idea that the perpetrator was a Welsh schoolboy and the only images of him allowed are those of him in his school uniform. Our Prime Minister hides behind the indea the trial might be compromised if anyone speaks of this despite the fact other terroist incidents have been desctibed as such long before their trial. The possession of terrorist paraphanalia was revealed in October but this somehow didnt prejudice the trial even though it was known about the day after the murders and should have been revealed then. This is not about Tory v Labour.

Our voices will never be heard.