https://youtu.be/3n7vcoH-naE?si=QyP7I4UKsrj8Yi2g

Surprisingly people see Reform as a credible opposition to Labour and the Conservatives, Farage was noticeable by his absence, forgot he was in the States at his matés inauguration.

Farage was in that clip.

Soon as I saw ‘Robespierre’ I turned it off.

Maybe so but it actually happened the other day in the Houses of Parliament.
It hasn't been made up no matter who put the clip up.

And by the way...I don't believe you.

I don’t give a flying fuck..,,

Well if people see Reform as a credible opposition to Labour and Consevatives it goes to show how utterly abject and shoit, Labour and Conservatives are. Both lots are shamelessly globalist and determined to protect every minority who claim victimhood while not giving a toss abot the lives of normal working people. I am sooo fooking sick of the platitudes and empty sound bites they spout rather than actuallyt doing anything to improve the lives of British people. No wonder people are looking at voting reform. I would rather vote for anyone but the Labour/Con clique that have governed us since forever. Shame on the bastards.

You couldn’t squeeze a fag paper between the two of them.

I agree about the globalist nut jobs Ozzy Reform are probably not the answer either but more worring is no party or leader inspires at all in the U.K.

Are you following him every day?? He's not going to go away,Mutley ...He's going to be haunting you in your sleep soon..


Man of the Year 2025 ??

I honestly don't know how the residents of Clacton have managed to cope in the last few days,jamie.

Considering Starmer spends more time in the air and out of the country than a British airways pilot on overtime, comments about Farage being in the US look a bit pathetic ….tinged with a sad resentful jealousy.

Countries visited…
Dhekelia
Azerbaijan
Belgium
Brazil
Cyprus
Estonia
Hungary
Ireland
Italy
Norway
Poland
Samoa
Saudi Arabia
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
France 3 times
Germany 3 times
USA 3 times……………….does he get Air Miles…?

Good...I didn't expect anything else.

You know Starmer's Timetable...so come on Snowy tell us all.

Easy…go on Wikipedia…it’s all there….I did wonder, seeing as how he’s waffling on about climate change/ net zero flying reductions…bit hypocritical.

Starmer is touring the world trying to look relevant, the reality is he's looking out of his depth and desperate. Even at the start of his press conference today he looked like a rabbit in the headlights.

He has the same hairstyle as Max Headroom…..except Max Headroom seems human.

Not defending Starmer anyone can edit iinfo on Wikipedia, it’s not 100% accurate,you been adding stuff Snowy ?

No….I did the post and wondered within 2 minutes how many flights he’d actually taken and checked several sites to cross reference their validity as I always do…and hey presto….pure facts.

Hope he does keep travelling, much to the dismay of misguided isolationists. We punch above our weight relevance-wise to our credit and to our benefit. This is the way to keep it going. The last government wasn't wrong in every little thing it did, neither is this one nor will any other that one day may come to power.

Every government should put its own citizens wellbeing and welfare ahead of globalisation ideals. Our successive governments are getting it wrong and as a result we are all suffering.
Disillusionment with the traditional political party's means Reform will get in as a protest.

It's nice that you can think of things so simplistically. It's a cosy bubble with easy answers.
It must be so reassuring and comfortable. However the real world moves on....

It's a basic duty of every government in the world, so don't patronise with your "simplistic" comments.
The real world indeed will move on and most of the western world will be dancing to Donald's tune.

Yes it is. Thankfully most, including Starmer and all his predecessors realise that performing this duty isn't as simple as turning all eyes inwards.

But naively welcome the globalisation and free movement of people including those who want to cause harm to our citizens.
The answers aren't in university halls and te books.

We have governments who are totally out of touch with the general public.
They public live on practicalities, they live on theory’s based on dreams.

Exactly, Trump got in because he sold his vision which was more popular than Harris's. The Americans bought it and Trump initially looks to be delivering.
Unfortunately with the state of our country and politics in general, Starmer got in because he was less unpopular than Sunak.
Next election Reform will get in on the back of Trumps presidency and legacy.

I'll bet anyone* on here that trump and farage won't win their next elections £100 to their or my chosen charity.
If one wins and one loses it'll be £50 I donate.

*a maximum of five people

Trump won't win the next election as he isn't allowed to stand. In USA you can only have 2 terms of Presidency, this is his 2nd one, so the Republicans will need someone else next time!!!

But does 2 separate terms count as one??

If true though you could have kept it quiet.

Plus Trump will probably change it anyway...like Putin.

like labour did this time. a lot could change in the next 4 years however and what and who are relevent today might not be by the next general election. its hard to imagine that the leaders of both the two main partys will be the same in 2029.

is that bet still on if you forget the names and justsay that the republicans and reform will win the next elections. one cannot stand and its not odds on the other will either.

Got your doubts eh. (5 people only)
I don’t care who wins, providing the Conservatives, Labour and the Lib Dem’s run by Postman Twat don’t get a sniff of running the country.

think its always been a bit like that but recently and not just from labour its reached a new level.

Free movement of people is something else entirely but nice try. Well, a pretty lousy try but I'm kind.

The public live on rumours, conspiracy theories and other BS. You've seen it yourself.

But what creates that sort of society, poor government.

Globalisation is categorised into 3 main areas, economic, cultural, and political. The free movement has been part of the drive to mix cultures.
Many commentators feel that globalisation in all 3 forms serves only to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

Investigative Journalists,Whistleblowers,Court cases,Headlines...they're all telling lies??

I hope he keeps travelling too…in a straight line to infinity and beyond….never to return.

Weird. I'm not fussed myself. Tories were epically shit. Maybe my expectations have took a battering.

Nah, international comes in loads of forms, none are inseparable from freedom of movement. NONE.

You must have low expectations and be happy with mediocrity.
Whatever floats your boat.

Happy?

Incidentally, the same people telling me off for complaining about Raj are having a right turbo moan-fest about Starmer. They can't budge him either!

Your average Joe is a well educated, analytically minded, fact checking, source sceptical, rational person?

If we actually had governments that considered the truth to be more important than spin and politicking, there would be consiiderably less "conspiracy theories and other BS". Johnson was a liar but Starmers blatant and routine disregard for the truth is frankly, sinister.

I really don't know how you're able to differentiate between this lot and any other lot... ever! There isn't another option that's not shit so may as well get over it.

Loons will always make up theories. They can't have state secrets so they make them up. Social media makes it worse. Evil genius plots amongst governments that can't even get bin collections right.