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 Post subject: Daniel Ogunleye
PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:26 am 
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According to one of the transfer rumour sites Pools and Colchester are interested in Daniel Ogunleye a 23 year old centre forward who has scored 23 goals so far this season for Brentwood Town FC . Previously with Forest Green Rovers.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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Sounds like contingency planning for a departure if true. Big if.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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Sounded like an agent putting him out there to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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bobby lemonade wrote:
Sounded like an agent putting him out there to me.

and given the choice he aint coming to us if he has a choice of a league club even if its colchester. know which club i,d pick even if i lived in hartlepool.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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accrington fan wrote:
bobby lemonade wrote:
Sounded like an agent putting him out there to me.

and given the choice he aint coming to us if he has a choice of a league club even if its colchester. know which club i,d pick even if i lived in hartlepool.


Not just the higher league he would only be moving around the corner to Colchester and probably stay in his current home. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 1:06 pm 
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Leggie43 wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
bobby lemonade wrote:
Sounded like an agent putting him out there to me.

and given the choice he aint coming to us if he has a choice of a league club even if its colchester. know which club i,d pick even if i lived in hartlepool.


Not just the higher league he would only be moving around the corner to Colchester and probably stay in his current home. :wink:


Spot on. The only way he would come to Pools would be if he was offered substantially higher wages. Sadly, those days are long gone.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 1:23 pm 
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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
bobby lemonade wrote:
Sounded like an agent putting him out there to me.

and given the choice he aint coming to us if he has a choice of a league club even if its colchester. know which club i,d pick even if i lived in hartlepool.


Not just the higher league he would only be moving around the corner to Colchester and probably stay in his current home. :wink:


Spot on. The only way he would come to Pools would be if he was offered substantially higher wages. Sadly, those days are long gone.



Well and truly gone Ozzy. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:46 am 
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Leggie43 wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
bobby lemonade wrote:
Sounded like an agent putting him out there to me.

and given the choice he aint coming to us if he has a choice of a league club even if its colchester. know which club i,d pick even if i lived in hartlepool.


Not just the higher league he would only be moving around the corner to Colchester and probably stay in his current home. :wink:


Spot on. The only way he would come to Pools would be if he was offered substantially higher wages. Sadly, those days are long gone.



Well and truly gone Ozzy. :roll:


Yeah I mean it’s nearly 18 long months ago the chairman of Halifax responding to fans criticism said he had offered big Mani the highest wage in their history but Pools had offered more, wonder if the contract was written in Latin it is so long ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:13 am 
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it cannot be difficult to beat halifax in wages when as a league club they have lost players to us, rochdale and a cash strapped stockport. saying that they are still above us in the league so must be finding players prepared to play for these wages.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:32 am 
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Gary Liddles pay rise was written in Wearside when he signed for S Shields.
Just a reminder!!


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:44 am 
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If there's any truth in the rumour that Pools are trying to sign Ogunleye it's likely connected to the idea that they have decided to cash in now on Mani (or possibly Joe Grey) because he's expected to leave on a free in the summer. They have both turned down contract offers from Pools, as confirmed by LL at the weekend.

In that case you'd expect a normal club to scout out a replacement and use part of the proceeds from a transfer to fund his transfer fee and wages. If you don't believe that Pools ever act like a normal club then fine, they're not going to do that.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:04 pm 
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[/quote]
Yeah I mean it’s nearly 18 long months ago the chairman of Halifax responding to fans criticism said he had offered big Mani the highest wage in their history but Pools had offered more, wonder if the contract was written in Latin it is so long ago.[/quote]

The point I was making was that we are no longer in a position to offer high wages to players to attract them to Hartlepool like we did in the days of IOR ownership. Just because we were able to offer Manni D more than Halifax could pay does not indicate that these days we can attract any player we want by offering them substantial wages. Surely this is opinion is not unreasonable? I am not criticizing the current ownership, it is what it is as they say. If the rumoured move has any substance, the player in question will join Colchester because they are FL and are local to him and he would only come to Pools if we offered the kind of wages IOR would have funded but which we now cannot offer. Hope this helps.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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sometimes you can get a player for less wages if you offer them a longer than a seasons contract for their future. the only problem with that is we could get another hastie.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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sometimes you can get a player for less wages if you offer them a longer than a seasons contract for their future. the only problem with that is we could get another hastie.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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Flying Hogans wrote:
If there's any truth in the rumour that Pools are trying to sign Ogunleye it's likely connected to the idea that they have decided to cash in now on Mani (or possibly Joe Grey) because he's expected to leave on a free in the summer. They have both turned down contract offers from Pools, as confirmed by LL at the weekend.

In that case you'd expect a normal club to scout out a replacement and use part of the proceeds from a transfer to fund his transfer fee and wages. If you don't believe that Pools ever act like a normal club then fine, they're not going to do that.

how many offers have they turned down though. even if negotiations have come to an end and we know they will not be playing for us next season i cannot see another club splashing the cash for either. overall i think there is better players out there and both could be worth more to us as players than they might prove somewhere else.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:53 pm 
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The way Pools recruit and negotiate contracts means next seasons squad will be a lot worse than what it is now.
Nailed on.
Last chance saloon were runs of 4n 5 wins in a row essential to finish off the STsales pitch of Promotion.
And if we fail.
It's a rapid decline of to the next level of lowness.
Trying to avoid division 6.
Who wants to be part of that shit.

Only a few.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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accrington fan wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
If there's any truth in the rumour that Pools are trying to sign Ogunleye it's likely connected to the idea that they have decided to cash in now on Mani (or possibly Joe Grey) because he's expected to leave on a free in the summer. They have both turned down contract offers from Pools, as confirmed by LL at the weekend.

In that case you'd expect a normal club to scout out a replacement and use part of the proceeds from a transfer to fund his transfer fee and wages. If you don't believe that Pools ever act like a normal club then fine, they're not going to do that.

how many offers have they turned down though. even if negotiations have come to an end and we know they will not be playing for us next season i cannot see another club splashing the cash for either. overall i think there is better players out there and both could be worth more to us as players than they might prove somewhere else.


Agree, but if they both want more money than Pools are willing/able to pay, they will be off. Sadly, that is the way of the world and I dont blame them. I am guessing they'll sign for FL clubs and be in and out of the first team.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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Flying Hogans wrote:
If there's any truth in the rumour that Pools are trying to sign Ogunleye it's likely connected to the idea that they have decided to cash in now on Mani (or possibly Joe Grey) because he's expected to leave on a free in the summer. They have both turned down contract offers from Pools, as confirmed by LL at the weekend.

In that case you'd expect a normal club to scout out a replacement and use part of the proceeds from a transfer to fund his transfer fee and wages. If you don't believe that Pools ever act like a normal club then fine, they're not going to do that.

Would be fairly worried if we were replacing Mani D with a player from 3 divisions down. Think it would be better to bring him in and either loan him out to a National North side while he gets used to full time training or just keep him as a bench option.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
The way Pools recruit and negotiate contracts means next seasons squad will be a lot worse than what it is now.
Nailed on.
Last chance saloon were runs of 4n 5 wins in a row essential to finish off the STsales pitch of Promotion.
And if we fail.
It's a rapid decline of to the next level of lowness.
Trying to avoid division 6.
Who wants to be part of that shit.

Only a few.


I doubt we will be relegated, but I can envisage years in mid table promising to get promoted but but never quite reaching the play offs. Last time we went up we had a top quality manager who got us up with very little cash for players with the notable exception of Armstrong. As we all know, managers like that are few and far bewteen.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
The way Pools recruit and negotiate contracts means next seasons squad will be a lot worse than what it is now.
Nailed on.
Last chance saloon were runs of 4n 5 wins in a row essential to finish off the STsales pitch of Promotion.
And if we fail.
It's a rapid decline of to the next level of lowness.
Trying to avoid division 6.
Who wants to be part of that shit.

Only a few.


This sounds like you won’t be renewing your £45 dodgy box :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
The way Pools recruit and negotiate contracts means next seasons squad will be a lot worse than what it is now.
Nailed on.
Last chance saloon were runs of 4n 5 wins in a row essential to finish off the STsales pitch of Promotion.
And if we fail.
It's a rapid decline of to the next level of lowness.
Trying to avoid division 6.
Who wants to be part of that shit.

Only a few.


I doubt we will be relegated, but I can envisage years in mid table promising to get promoted but but never quite reaching the play offs. Last time we went up we had a top quality manager who got us up with very little cash for players with the notable exception of Armstrong. As we all know, managers like that are few and far bewteen.

it would certainly not be a shock to see that happening like poolies from the early 20,s saw their team as a permanent third division north outfit. at my age i,d love to see pools back in the league again but its only in the old testament where people had that long a lifespan.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:29 pm 
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Darts plus lots of other entertainment.
So Pools in more decline wudent end my £subs.

:clap: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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Krampesh wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
If there's any truth in the rumour that Pools are trying to sign Ogunleye it's likely connected to the idea that they have decided to cash in now on Mani (or possibly Joe Grey) because he's expected to leave on a free in the summer. They have both turned down contract offers from Pools, as confirmed by LL at the weekend.

In that case you'd expect a normal club to scout out a replacement and use part of the proceeds from a transfer to fund his transfer fee and wages. If you don't believe that Pools ever act like a normal club then fine, they're not going to do that.

Would be fairly worried if we were replacing Mani D with a player from 3 divisions down. Think it would be better to bring him in and either loan him out to a National North side while he gets used to full time training or just keep him as a bench option.

i,d be more worried if i was a fan of a struggling league 2 side who expect Manny D to be their goalscoring saviour to keep em in the EFL.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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The main reason we could offer a lot more than Halifax for Mani,was due to the parachute payment,the Fax chairman even mentioned that.
That’ll be finished at the end of this season.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
The way Pools recruit and negotiate contracts means next seasons squad will be a lot worse than what it is now.
Nailed on.
Last chance saloon were runs of 4n 5 wins in a row essential to finish off the STsales pitch of Promotion.
And if we fail.
It's a rapid decline of to the next level of lowness.
Trying to avoid division 6.
Who wants to be part of that shit.

Only a few.


Spot on. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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Don't think there's any want us to be fighting relegation from this division let alone actually being relegated. Strangely there's a few would take administration and multiple relegation if it means regime change.
Got to hope we can string those wins together to get us into one of the play off spots then somehow fluke our way back to efl.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
The way Pools recruit and negotiate contracts means next seasons squad will be a lot worse than what it is now.
Nailed on.
Last chance saloon were runs of 4n 5 wins in a row essential to finish off the STsales pitch of Promotion.
And if we fail.
It's a rapid decline of to the next level of lowness.
Trying to avoid division 6.
Who wants to be part of that shit.

Only a few.


I don't know anybody who wants to be part of that shit to answer your question but I suppose there will be a few who keep forecasting it as if it were a lasting wish. I'm a Poolie till I die and see most other Poolies as being in the same category. I love football and love to watch it but no goal comes anywhere near a Pools goal. That's what all Poolies have in common. No matter where we were in the football hierarchy we would still have whingers and doom mongers. It will ever be thus. :-D

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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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PTID wrote:
Don't think there's any want us to be fighting relegation from this division let alone actually being relegated. Strangely there's a few would take administration and multiple relegation if it means regime change.
Got to hope we can string those wins together to get us into one of the play off spots then somehow fluke our way back to efl.


That would be the best option.
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Nobody I know wants anything less.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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Kebab&chips wrote:
The main reason we could offer a lot more than Halifax for Mani,was due to the parachute payment,the Fax chairman even mentioned that.
That’ll be finished at the end of this season.


Yet I only ever saw on pools social media that this money went straight into Raj back pocket.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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Why bdo you think Raj haws held on so he can pocket the last of the parachute payments.


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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But that scenario wasn't the case when he bought the club and the parachute payments stopped. He didn't walk then so who knows?


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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But that scenario wasn't the case when he bought the club and the parachute payments stopped. He didn't walk then so who knows?

we didn,t do bad when the payments finished last time. we will be just in the same boat as most other clubs and where the payments anyway used fully on signings and wages.


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It will all be forgotten and meaningless when we're challenging at the top of the championship.















I'll get me coat bbolt

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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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derwent wrote:
It will all be forgotten and meaningless when we're challenging at the top of the championship.















I'll get me coat bbolt


You been drinking with Leggie or the bottom of the ramp. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
derwent wrote:
It will all be forgotten and meaningless when we're challenging at the top of the championship.















I'll get me coat bbolt


You been drinking with Leggie or the bottom of the ramp. :lol:


Hic.

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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
derwent wrote:
It will all be forgotten and meaningless when we're challenging at the top of the championship.















I'll get me coat bbolt


You been drinking with Leggie or the bottom of the ramp. :lol:


That was last time I seen Derwent and Mutley before they staggered away with arms around each others shoulders kissing and cuddling and exchanging words and compliments lovingly like a couple of teenagers :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Daniel Ogunleye
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:13 pm 
It's that long ago we were teenagers. :laugh: :laugh:


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MutleyRules wrote:
It's that long ago we were teenagers. :laugh: :laugh:


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