I'll say that again...£715,000,000...that's how much the Rwanda scheme cost the Country...I mean us!!!
And it will be very close to 1 Billion when all the loose ends are tied!!!
And do you know how many actually went to Rwanda...4...and the 4 VOLUNTEERED with over 2 grand each in their pockets.
That's 178,750,000 each for the 4 that VOLUNTEERED.
Boris Johnson, Priti Patel, Suella Braverman, Liz Truss, James Cleverly, Rishi Sunak...you spent the money wisley....well done one and all!!!

I expect Lord of the CPS will spend the same and more on similar non costed projects.

They all p*ss in the same pot of brainless ideas, although I have to say KS has achieved the title of the worse ever PM in just 5 months.

So Liz Truss done better in 49 days??

There's nothing critical in your thinking

As the BBC reported, Starmer promised 13,000 new police officers this morning to a fanfare, but didn’t point out it comprises of 3,000 police officers, 4,000 PCSO’s , the rest is made up of officers ‘coming on line’ recruited by the last government and Special Constables who are unpaid and part time….

Starmer, telling blatant lies? No, no cant be true.

Every news report I seen about it showed the breakdown of the numbers.

He's a dead man walking, served his purpose in getting Labour into power.
Rwanda was working as a deterrent, hence the number that swiftly moved through the UK and on to Ireland. If it hadn't been for the constant court challenges to thwart the scheme it would certainly have helped, other countries looking to use solar schemes in Rwanda would suggest that it had merit. I deed Australia's policy has been proven to work exceptionally well.
It could therefore be argued that the waste of money invested in the scheme was down to the detractors rather than the government.

Well that’s the breakdown last night on the BBC.
Starmer said he’d recruit 13,000 policeman and the sum of £350,000 was quoted.
As a UK Police officers salary is 42k simply multiply that by 13,000 and you get £546 million……nearly a £200m shortfall…..
Recruiting PCSO’s is a joke, glorified Park Wardens with all the authority of a Park Keeper.
Fact is he’s recruiting 3000 PC ‘s for £126,000 million and 4,000 PCSO’s for £112,000million which is closer to the true figures……covering for special constables.
The remaining ‘supposed’ new constables are coming out of training after having been recruited under the previous government …so that money for PC’s has already been spent…..by the previous goverment on PC’s.

Police Constable salary…£42k
PCSO salary…………………..£28k
Do the maths.

And Ireland sent them all back to the UK.

Also if it was Labour that wasted that money on Rwanda you lot would be scaling the walls of Westminster to lynch Starmer.
715 million for 4 volunteers.

And the tories plan....recruit 20,000 more Bobbies...the exact number that they cut since 2010. How many did they recruit??

Is that you Diane??

Forget the Tory’s ….they’re toast.
The Tory’s are history, they were rubbish..… but we live in the present and the saga of incompetence continues as the torch of idiocy is handed from Tory to Labour.
And so it goes on .

must have been the worlds most expensive deterrent. even if it had worked the cost would have been much higher to send them there and eventually bring them back if they had ticked all the right boxes. the policy of the australians was far more affective than rwanda would ever have been. it was a policy both sides of the illegal immigration issue mainly disagreed with.

Ireland didn't send any back, those that came back did so as they realised Rwanda wasn't going to happen. Nobody supports either party wasting our money, whether it's PPE, Rwanda, Great British Energy, or overseas aid to Nuclear Powers.
Starter in 4 months has now watered down the manifesto plans for growth, plans for green energy, as well asying about NI. In 4 months we've had 5 pledges, 7 pillars, 5 measurable targets, umpteen promises and a partridge in a pear tree.

715 mil. Can that budget spend get transferred over the the Foreign Aid amount for the past couple of years? Then reclaim that from the current Aid budget and it cost us nothing at all.

Yes and now the detractors are in power.

I don't think they teach maths at Dyke House so that's a No NO

Oh yes they did send some of the buggers back.

5 months....but 14 years!!

Detractors?? More like common sense.

Hilarious...Not...FACT!!!

Caught a bit of Question Time last night and noticed a couple of things.
I know the audience should reflect a cross section of the town it’s filmed and largely it does but bloody hell there are some really thick people out there. I’m not talking about political leanings - it’s that they trot out blindly obvious, demonstrably false nonsense as absolute fact. When they’re corrected there is never any sign of doubt, just a kind of ‘well that’s what I heard’ or ‘well that’s what I believe is true’ and they double down on it. And people just don’t listen to what’s being said. It quite often happens that an audience member is there to argue even though the politician is saying exactly the same thing. This is what debate seems to have become - shouting and zero give.
Then Farage was on. Absolutely no doubt he’s a great communicator and plays a great critic but he’s contradictory and when asked about detail, like he was in the election, he doesn’t seem to have practical answers. (I’m not even saying anyone else had answers but I’m looking at him as the potential next MP.)
When pushed, his answer to immigration was remarkably similar to the woman from Labour sat next to him.
I noticed he’s also softened his rhetoric on environmental stuff, presumably saying stuff that he doesn’t believe but makes himself more widely electable. I thought he was the ultimate conviction politician but even he has started playing the game.
All said and done it was a pretty depressing watch and a reminder that it’s easy to get drawn towards negativity and arguing - basically the online world on the tele.

The Rwanda scheme was at least some attempt at reducing the the ever increasing tide of illegal migrants arriving on our shores and draining our reasources. The plan was never to send 20,000 a year to Rwanda but simply to have a detterant so the migrants would be concerned that arriving in Dover could just as easily be a ticket to Rwanda rather than residence in the land of milk and honey. It failed because the liberal establishment fought it tooth and nail. Every possible method was used to delay and obfuscate the scheme and finally those who stopped it, complain about the cost after their cynical political manouvering. The cost was significant but worth considering how much it would have saved the tax payer if the detterance had worked and the boats came in smaller numbers or ceased altogether. It would have been worth it. The same fools who who revel in the waste of money applaud Starmer doing feck all about the boats as their numbers and the cost to UK tax payers spirals ever upward. Rwanda was an attempt at doing something. Someone had to try. You wonder why some people are delighted by the boats arrriving almost every day. Why are they so keen to advocate for those that are damaging this country and mock those who try to stop them.

Particulary depressed by the lackwit in the red jumper who was suggesting that if we are not in favour of mass uncontrolled immigration we are all nazis. He got a huge round of applause for fecks sake. What is wrong with people?

Précis time…….People who don’t swallow the Starmer Experiment are dullards. Farage bad. …er, that’s it.

More a case of Farage overrated I’d say.
I didn’t mention Starmer either. Can easily get on with people of all political persuasions but must admit, I do get frustrated with people applauding statements that are said with conviction but are blatantly untrue. Truth doesn’t really seem to matter much now.

Truth never did matter with most politicians regardless of Party.
They’re all ambitious, hungry, pliant and if you don’t like their principles they have others.
Oh, this cynicism is killing me….

Problem is their ambition is exclusively for self, constituents and country don't matter.

But it was never ever going to work Oddie. For one it would have been deemed illegal and two it was an idiotic idea dreamt up by complete half-wits.

And PS...give Starmer a bit of time....5 months v 14 years.

You calling the BBC Liars….?

Behave…he’s useless but sending him to Jail is a bit much.

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for me its just 5 months v the last 5 years. looking back the previous 9 were not bad compared to the last tory government.

Germany will tighten its law to make it easier to prosecute those helping to smuggle migrants to the UK, as part of a new plan agreed between the two countries.
Facilitating people-smuggling is not technically illegal in Germany currently, if it is to a third country outside the EU - which, following Brexit, includes the UK.
Under the new agreement, the Home Office says Germany has pledged to make the activity a clear criminal offence.
Home Secretary Yvette Cooper said the "ground-breaking" agreement would help tackle the criminal gangs organising small boat crossings.

Much better than the gimmick that was Rwanda.

Course it does, those naughty people smugglers won't want a criminal record (when and if it becomes illegal). How much is this scam going to cost us?

Exactly. A law change in Germany will make zero difference to the people smugglers who are by definition criminals. its just more bollox to make it seem as though Starmer is doing something about the boats when he couldnt care less.

HOUSE!!!

We're paying the French a fortune for their gendarmerie to wave the boats off.
I'm sure this German scheme will be equally effective and no less expensive.

These intruders will continue to kill us off and breed like rabbits.
They own England now.
Won't be long before they get the triple edge barbers n butchers in Murray St to get a full house.

And this freeze on the £12740 tax allowance will produce a shit load of Xtra taxes to keep on subsiding them lot.

How can anyone be anti farage reform after the way tory/Labour have encouraged the demise of our once great nation.

I like it when Farages very name is mentioned and has all the long haired men and short haired women getting the vapours, froth at the mouth, start gnawing on their straight jackets then reach deliriously for their garlic necklaces to repel him like Dracula’s appeared