What would be said on here if we signed Mr Hinshelwood instead of York….somehow if he came here with his only experience of management being six years at Worthing, some on here would be throwing themselves off the Heugh at low tide.
Fact is it ain’t easy to pick a winner, it ain’t necessarily the experienced managers who produce the goods.
It’s a funny old business.

Heed probably be shit like all the others apart from one.

two different clubs with the only similarity is they play football. i,d imagine york fans at the time though would have been no happier with the appointment than we would initially.

So why wasn’t Challinor shit using that logic…don’t forget he was getting abuse on here when he had a poor start to the eventual promotion season?

Some can only post shit, Werid thing is they enjoy doing it.
Even werider they make out they care.

I certainly don't enjoy posting Fact of how shit we are.
Always tell it how it is.
Mainly bad but I love to compliment the rare wins.

Think we need to go on a roll of wins.
I like them.

UTP.

I wonder if we can get them on prescription, the wins that is

Do you realise that when Pools have travelled with big support against Gateshead and York They have scored 4 and conceded 12 enough said I think.

Hmmm..you can’t exactly ground them though can you…but you.could always keep the away fixtures secret from the fans so they can’t travel…or maybe not.

Theres plenty worse than you Kevin, You are mild and make valid points.
Some just turn it out for the pleasure of doing so.

and the promotion we got was either him getting lucky with signing armstrong on loan and oates improving to become the player we never thought was in him or challinor had a master stroke.

there was moments with luck across that full season aswell - it just clicked. You just know when it does and i have that feeling about York this season - they are dismantling whats infront of them. You know when we get a good manager - JA had this impact for me and is having it at Truro - again a manager who was undone by the shite upstairs at Pools - think we all know its not just about finding a gem in a manager. its about the full thing clicking and us having some luck too - given the lad has had a small war chest to work with hes done well and given last season the York fans where almost touting for the owners to go. Id sure as shit have them here just now - money gets you out this division this day and age no doubt about it - or get a half decent run together at the right time and sneak the play offs if possible. But again many good team has been undone at Wembley etc....
The York team is worth some so rightly so he should be getting a tune out of them - interesting i didnt know also that his son plays for Brighton and was subbed off in the game at the weekend with an injury - has a good report and looks to be a very good player with bright future ahead of him.

Pools need a miracle just now - either a sugar daddy walks in - or we get this new management team giving us the turnaround of the century and a few new players to go with it. Just shows though that 5 quality players in the side really does help and pays dividend at this level. Chesterfield springs to mind too when thinking about it.

i see also in the mail it was mentioned that Asiimwe is wanted back by us and LL is working his magic - we need more than him and id like us to be getting more good players from the championship - wonder if the new lads connections at their old clubs could ship us one or 2 good lads.

That's the trouble with stats, if you were actually at those games the experience was chalk and cheese.

The 7-1 at the Heed (or rather, the second half when we shipped 6 goals) was pure misery and embarrassment.

Pools were right in Saturday's game till York got their third. It was pretty much over as a contest after that, but Pools kept going and scored a couple more in front of us fans.

You always travel in hope, but I doubt many who went seriously expected us to get anything out of the game. The atmosphere coming away from the ground was nothing like it was after the Heed game. Playing the league leaders at their place showed that there's big questions to be asked about Pools' defence (centre backs too slow, keeper who should have done better with a couple) but not a lot wrong with our passing game and attacking play.

You wouldn't think it from reading some of the comments on here, but our season isn't going to be decided by away games at York and FGR. If we can't beat Eastleigh and Fylde at home, that'll be the time to write the season off.

thats too true for some i,m afraid. really the strength of their bench was the deciding factor in the end where we hadn,t the type of player to make much of a change.

Agreed with most of this. Found the reaction to Saturday quite over the top, the new coaches will have had 1 training session on Friday and that's it (criticism of their recruitment with LL as manager however is valid). Plus we didn't play too badly. 1st goal horrible mistake, 2nd goal a direct free kick, 3rd an absolute worldie that curled from the centre of the goal to the top corner in midair, 4th header from a corner (criticism fair), 5th penalty from a dive.
Think criticism of Brad Young is a bit unfair. I doubt many keepers are saving their free kick or their 3rd, his miskick in the first half was horrific but he recovered well after. The only one would be maybe the header from the corner but he is 20 playing in the 5th tier, he's not always going to get to everything.

Young made a clanger the other week aswell when it slipped by him front post - hes just another young GK learning his trade i get that. Unfortunately Hartlepool United are not the apprentice programme for the almost made its ! at current time i believe we are on borrowed time and really need to make the most out of this season and try our hardest again to get out ! every position should of been thought about clinically and no gambles taking place at all - specially not with the GK.

You’re not wrong , but…. our first priority should have been an experienced keeper, we shouldn’t be relying on 20 year old players on loan….ok as a back up, but I think this was a major cock up not signing a keeper.

Smith might not be the best keeper in the world but wasn’t doing to badly. The only thing I can see in putting Young in ahead of him is that Leicester insisted he got game time which I fully understand.

It’s very beneficial for Leicester to get competitive playing time in….but my concern is what’s best for Pools.

to be fair he isn,t as good as the last keeper we had from leicester. should be played on merits and not what they want and send him back if it suits us and not them.

The thing is though many on here were saying how strong all over the pitch we were early in the season. Now we play the better teams, we are a bit of a mess at times. Our season wont be decided by losing at york, but we lost at Ebbsfleet so when that happens you have to pick up points against the better teams, which we seem incapable of doing. If we want to get promoted one day or year back to the football league, we cant just brush aside losing to the league leaders as if its acceptable and a given. We should be competing with these teams not plainly accepting another hammering.

Its a strange management appointment but like other managers they need to be given a chance. It might of made more sense to have gone all out for a pete wild type, but we have gone down this route now were going to have to live wirh it and hope we can get some results.

The loss at Ebbsfleet was confirmation that Pools were going nowhere playing Sarll's brand of anti-football. LL has at least dumped the long ball crap and encouraged the team to play to its strenghs. It wasn't enough to beat York, though it might have been a closer game if Sass-Davies hadn't gifted York their first goal.

Can't deny that Pools' squad is nowhere near the same level as theirs. The game showed that if Pools play 4 at the back and put the emphasis on attacking football we are going to get punished by the best sides in the division. It's still preferable to Sarll's negativity and I think we might win more than we lose from now on.

Whether that's enough to make the play-offs is a different story, but outside the top 3, pretty much anybody can beat anybody on any given day. Look at KP's Flylde beating Gateshead 3-0 on Saturday. a week after a 5-0 thrashing! Typical Kevin Phillips

I had a listen to all the interviews about Pools' new 'management structure' last Friday, and I can't get away from the idea that they couldn't decide between Limbrick and Skelton so ended up hiring them both! Lennie said as much - he wouldn't commit to whether Limbrick would succeed him, or Skelton, or even Nicky Featherstone! Drury on Radio Tees said it sounded like like Pop Idol! Just to muddy the waters a bit more, Lennie also suggested he might pack it after 3 months, or at the end of the season, or later!

Sounds like it has all the potential for another fiasco, so I'm pinning what hopes I've got left for the season on Mr. Burns sticking around.

Good teams can attack and not use it as an excuse for poor defending.
It's good midfield that supports both.

Id say where we are now reflects the level of our team. Slightly overated and struggling to consistently compete.
League table n results varify that assumption.

It's fair to say we ain't going up or down which creates mixed opinions.

Fine.

I watched the game albeit on stream and my take was that York had better quality and control, their bench was good and they scored some great goals. That said Campbell should have put away that sitter and maybe it would have been different. It seemed to me that LL waited too long to introduce Mancini but a slight error. The damage done by Sarrll cant be understated, he's had them hoofing and drilled in that way so it needs drilled out and hopefully the new coaches can work something different. Dodds for me is key, clearly not happy having to hoof, it was evident when I was at the Brackley game.

I think what will happen now is patterns of play will get better but we will have left it too late for this season. I believe we will go on a decent run and get close to the playoffs. Next season will be so much more difficult unless these new coaches can determine a way of playing. I'll give them a chance, anything will be better than sarrrl hoofball!!!!!!

I was impressed with the noise poolies made and the effort of the players, were not done yet, there is a spirit despite the awful decisions made by the chairman and hierarchy, of which Lennie was part of. Lennie has now got to rely on the younger coaches to get him out of the mess he was part of creating.

PTID NSD

we have to go back a few seasons to before the hartley days where you cannot say we have been unlucky in defeat. we are where we are in the league on merit so far with only the aldershot game to look back on with pride. need a few more of those to give anybody hope we,ll rise up the table.

If in the unlikely event Pools got promoted they would need a huge cash injection and Singh doesn’t have the funds.