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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 2:21 pm 
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Didn’t take long to come off the rails

Trying but York much much better than us, especially out of possession where they have been coached to press properly

No surprise from a club and chairman who have no genuine interest in success


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Awful. What a joke we have become.


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1st v 15th. :roll:


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2-1

York aren’t unbeatable if we push, but am sceptical we will


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3-1 brilliant third from them in fairness and we have been better this half

Ref an arsehole….lennie if you can only get our best player on when we are two down then you shouldn’t have come out of retirement


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4-1 ffs


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4-2 probably a fairer reflection than 4-1 but we are still way off being competitive


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We are shite but that was never a pen


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Honest to God. The referee should just have gone the whole hog and put a York strip on. Never a penalty, hardly a free kick for us worth having all afternoon and their keeper was taking the piss with his time wasting all second half.

5-3. Shit defending. Shit refereeing. The attacking is picking up.

You can see York are building something good. We've been treading water for years.


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barriewardrobe3 wrote:
1st v 15th. :roll:


We were playing york not barcelona


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barriewardrobe3 wrote:
1st v 15th. :roll:


We were playing york not barcelona


The Maidenhead fixture was made out it was Chelsea n Altrincham Man Utd.
And 4 pts dropped was a major step forward.

Our fans are been Takeing for mugs.

Got a rare win v Aldershot and we are the bees knees.
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Fans have been taken for mugs for long enough. Some are happy with that situation though.


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Really, I'd expect anyone who genuinely felt they were being taken for a mug would put a stop to it and withdraw their support. Anyone who thinks they're being taken for a mug but still pays to watch IS a mug imo.


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We had a decent 20 mins in second half, and they tried their best but York were much better, their 3rd goal particularly was very good and all round play was a team properly coached


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Their midfield were miles better than ours was.


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Their midfield were miles better than ours was.


Well our midfield all signed on for another year so get used to it


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His post match interview was depressing….happy we didn’t embarrass ourselves was basically the theme of it


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You couldnt make it up could you? We might as well give up if this is our managers attitude


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First time I have seen him annoyed kept mentioning 2 daft goals we conceded with defensive mistakes in his post match interview.
https://youtu.be/ERgYVJmWCOo?si=EUZ5xVtGROnYFWS2


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Fans have been taken for mugs for long enough. Some are happy with that situation though.


Some off the oldies have it imbredded into them that it's always got to be shit because of the reelection carryons.


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We've seen good times and bad, mostly bad. Doesn't mean that we're happy at the present situation.
And you don't need to be am oldie to remember that it was only 6 years ago we were at this level and so close to going out of business and the Save Pools Day needing to raise £200k to save the club.
Like it or not Raj has every right to set the price to buy the club. And the reality is that in over 2 years there's been 1 attempt to buy in that time.
So not a case if old are happy and younger supporters have higher aspirations. We all want better. But regardless of what we all want we cannot ourselves change much at all. I've always supported Pools the football club regardless of whichever owner we've had. Raj will go one day .


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We had a decent 20 mins in second half, and they tried their best but York were much better, their 3rd goal particularly was very good and all round play was a team properly coached

their 3rd goal was the killer when we were actually on top. its typical football where if you are at the top things go your way when you are up against it. if the league positions had been reveresed we,d have got the equaliser and gone on to win the game somehow.


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We've seen good times and bad, mostly bad. Doesn't mean that we're happy at the present situation.
And you don't need to be am oldie to remember that it was only 6 years ago we were at this level and so close to going out of business and the Save Pools Day needing to raise £200k to save the club.
Like it or not Raj has every right to set the price to buy the club. And the reality is that in over 2 years there's been 1 attempt to buy in that time.
So not a case if old are happy and younger supporters have higher aspirations. We all want better. But regardless of what we all want we cannot ourselves change much at all. I've always supported Pools the football club regardless of whichever owner we've had. Raj will go one day .


We are a zombie club and always will be under Raj, that is until he decides to end it all.

There has been one PUBLICISED attempt to buy the club. The discussion isn't about whether Raj has the right to set to the price, it's about whether he is being a dick about it.


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But none of us know the asking price or what was offered so how can we assess if he's being a dick about it?


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PTID wrote:
We've seen good times and bad, mostly bad. Doesn't mean that we're happy at the present situation.
And you don't need to be am oldie to remember that it was only 6 years ago we were at this level and so close to going out of business and the Save Pools Day needing to raise £200k to save the club.
Like it or not Raj has every right to set the price to buy the club. And the reality is that in over 2 years there's been 1 attempt to buy in that time.
So not a case if old are happy and younger supporters have higher aspirations. We all want better. But regardless of what we all want we cannot ourselves change much at all. I've always supported Pools the football club regardless of whichever owner we've had. Raj will go one day .


We are a zombie club and always will be under Raj, that is until he decides to end it all.

There has been one PUBLICISED attempt to buy the club. The discussion isn't about whether Raj has the right to set to the price, it's about whether he is being a dick about it.


S :lol: ome tool bound to tell you off for that.
Please don't upset Singhy he might make this situation a lot worse.

Not my quote by the way.


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But none of us know the asking price or what was offered so how can we assess if he's being a dick about it?

and we never will and till something actually happens on that front there is sod all any of can do to alter the situation unless we have any money to put on the table ourselves. its just a pity that finance of the club has to be in our utmost thoughts all the time regarding pools but afraid it is what it is and has more or less been the problem most seasons before we were born.


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Well we wouldn't speak about anything at all if we were restricted to things we could control and knew 100% with cast iron certainty. There would be no sports chat, no opinions, no speculation, prediction or opinion. Forget chatting about who we should sign, who should be manager, what formation we should play or who should be playing or not.

But we can talk about likelihoods and give opinion. In my opinion, based on his previous form, I don't think Raj is being realistic about selling up. Many share that opinion. Anyone have a contrasting one? Anyone think the consortium wanted the club for a low ball offer? No?


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I think he'll sell when he gets his asking price and conditions. I would imagine he'll have had some fees to pay for the negotiations and legal scrutiny of whatever they offered. Needless expenditure if he doesn't want to sell or spend money.
Obviously Raj thought the offer not good enough, and the Trust have only said 2 good offers were made but didn't say if either matched the asking price. It was all a bit odd imo, they said they put 2 good offers in and after the deal collapsed they said Raj didn't disclose the full accounts - so why would you make any offer, and how would you know it was a good one?
Let's hope someone comes along soon, matches the asking price and has oodles of cash to burn on the team.


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I think he'll sell when he gets his asking price and conditions. I would imagine he'll have had some fees to pay for the negotiations and legal scrutiny of whatever they offered. Needless expenditure if he doesn't want to sell or spend money.
Obviously Raj thought the offer not good enough, and the Trust have only said 2 good offers were made but didn't say if either matched the asking price. It was all a bit odd imo, they said they put 2 good offers in and after the deal collapsed they said Raj didn't disclose the full accounts - so why would you make any offer, and how would you know it was a good one?
Let's hope someone comes along soon, matches the asking price and has oodles of cash to burn on the team.


Well I'm putting my trust in fellow Poolies. You can put your trust in your mates cosy fireside chats if you want to but most people are sick of the BS and buffoonery at HUFC.


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I don't think either side are giving us the full picture to be fair.


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You can see York are building something good. We've been treading water for years.


How many years were Stockport/Wrexham/York treading water before they came good?


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He will run out of steam soon.

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I don't think either side are giving us the full picture to be fair.

I got the full picture. Singh wanted more than he's put in and he still wanted to stay...and still be No.1.


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Well the Trust said the full picture wasn't made available to the Consortium so you know more than them. Care to share the full details, how much was he wanting, how much has he put in, how much was offered, etc?


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Didn’t take long to come off the rails

Trying but York much much better than us, especially out of possession where they have been coached to press properly

No surprise from a club and chairman who have no genuine interest in success


C,mon Loyal, You know its a "Little step backwards"


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Well the Trust said the full picture wasn't made available to the Consortium so you know more than them. Care to share the full details, how much was he wanting, how much has he put in, how much was offered, etc?



Care to explain why arguing the toss about this is so important to you? Might it show Raj in a bad light? Is that a problem? Seems to be a problem for you.


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I'm not taking any side, someone's claiming they know the details of the failed Consortium bid, I'm asking them to share.
As I said I don't think either side are telling the full story, there's something odd about a bidder who claims they made 2 bids without k owing the full financial picture its just business madness imo.


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I'm not taking any side, someone's claiming they know the details of the failed Consortium bid, I'm asking them to share.
As I said I don't think either side are telling the full story, there's something odd about a bidder who claims they made 2 bids without k owing the full financial picture its just business madness imo.


Is it? If only there was such a thing as a condition offer. Then it would make perfect sense and wouldn't be odd at all. Oh well!


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So was it a conditional offer then? It certainly would make sense if that was the case. The Trust never mentioned that word Conditional though they said 2 Good Offers!
I think it's fair if someone's claiming to know the full details they should share them with us don't you?


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So was it a conditional offer then? It certainly would make sense if that was the case. The Trust never mentioned that word Conditional though they said 2 Good Offers!
I think it's fair if someone's claiming to know the full details they should share them with us don't you?


Why would they? Have you never bought a house? Do you know what STC means? Don't tell me you bought a house BEFORE searches and a survey? HUST said they were good offers. Says everything when you would call them out as liars and say nothing about your Boro supporting buddy. Run along to him now. Tell him everyone is pissed off with his shoddyness and the honeymoon is over. The only ones who won't say it are scared of him doing a Darlo with ud or are essentially his poodles.


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I haven't called anyone out as a liar, you need to calm down a bit with the vitriol. And I agree if they were conditional offers then it wouldn't be odd.
You're clearly willing to slate Raj without the full facts. Let's just ask the guy in the know to share the full facts then we can all get to the truth. Or are you afraid the truth doesn't fit your agenda.


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I haven't called anyone out as a liar, you need to calm down a bit with the vitriol. And I agree if they were conditional offers then it wouldn't be odd.
You're clearly willing to slate Raj without the full facts. Let's just ask the guy in the know to share the full facts then we can all get to the truth. Or are you afraid the truth doesn't fit your agenda.


Ahh we got there in the end! Excellent.

Does he let you call him Raj? Or is it Mr Singh?


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Oh dear, reasonable debate out the window and we're back to the old you must know Raj personally shite. I've said it on dozens of occasions I've never met the man, never spoken to the man, don't know him at all and I'm therefore not going to call him names unless I've seen evidence to support that name calling. You've either got a deep irratio Al hatred of the man as I presume.you don't know him either, or you've seen the evidence that backs up calling him names, or you're just a follower of his distractions who rather than makes up his own mind just joins the mob.


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But none of us know the asking price or what was offered so how can we assess if he's being a dick about it?



This is 100% correct. Were all just guessing. But what is the value? Is there any? What is actually for sale, a ton of debt and losses every year, a squad that can't beat part timers and most of the best players out of contract at the end of the season. No assets at all and a lease on an old ground that needs a lot of work. Who in the world would buy that.


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It’s worth fuck all apart from the emotional value, Raj has no economic argument, the only card he has to play is that the club will get worse unless someone pays him to fuck off as he’s making no real effort to improve things


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Oh dear, reasonable debate out the window and we're back to the old you must know Raj personally shite. I've said it on dozens of occasions I've never met the man, never spoken to the man, don't know him at all and I'm therefore not going to call him names unless I've seen evidence to support that name calling. You've either got a deep irratio Al hatred of the man as I presume.you don't know him either, or you've seen the evidence that backs up calling him names, or you're just a follower of his distractions who rather than makes up his own mind just joins the mob.


There is no reasonable debate with someone with an agenda. It isnt a subtle one.

I don't hate Raj, just the mess he has overseen with our club. I have not called.him names but you know that. The agenda on display again.

This isn't a game. People are gutted and angry about what a mess the club is in. And there's.you.trying to deflect blame, downplay disaster and redirect anger. That's not normal. We are in the shit and you are worked up about Raj allegedly getting called names. Bizarre.


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I'm not downplaying anything, are you not interested in seeing the details of the bids and terms for a sale yourself or are you just following the pack?
What is my agenda then? I'll tell you what it is, to support my club as I have for well over 50 years. It's a pretty simple agenda.
I'm not worked up either, I'm just not going to make allegations about someone or a matter I am not fully up to speed on.
Still waiting to see those numbers btw, I suspect it'll be a long wait. Then and only then will we know the truth about the failed sale and the causes of that failure.
In the meantime, I hope we can turn a corner on the pitch and start moving up the table.


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It’s worth fuck all apart from the emotional value, Raj has no economic argument, the only card he has to play is that the club will get worse unless someone pays him to fuck off as he’s making no real effort to improve things


Like has been said plenty of other clubs manage to negotiate takeovers. Some bad n good n in between.

Id imagine anyone interested now would certainly talk to the trust to get an idea of how this fella does business deals.

Sounds like the asking price is just for Arabs who have monopoly money.
Which reality means he ain't going anywhere fast.
The league position tells us what standard we are despite the fake accusations that we Should be a lot higher.
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The league position doesn't lie, but I think most of us thought we'd be doing a lot better than we are. Lennie needs to sort it out fast and make an impact.


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The league position doesn't lie, but I think most of us thought we'd be doing a lot better than we are. Lennie needs to sort it out fast and make an impact.


It's because we are just puppets.
Getting told the correct sentences.
Works every Summer to Autumn.
Then we wise up sometimes get pissed off.
Then repeat the process of false hopes.

The amount of employees who come to Pools for a final pay day is unreal.

Well we finally offloaded Hartleys recruitments ( which was forced onto us as the sole reason for failure).

Did it work?
Not yet :lol:

Unfortunately this 3 year Capitulation looks set to continue.

When will we rise again??????? sctatchinghead


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