We’re sick of it

It will not get any better under Raj and Len over the last 4 seasons clubs that have invested have got out of this shite league Raj won’t invest and Len is well past a 10 at least we drew the second half 3 -3

York invested last season and nearly went down. New manager in March kept them up and now they're on fire without spending so much this year.
When Raj goes it might get better, it might get worse but until then the manager, coaches, and players currently at the club really should be doing better.
Has Lenny blamed the week lay off for our lacklustre performance yet?

We need to put Smith back in goal!

Im not sure it can get worse but you never know. Things might improve if we had a reasonable goal keeper. Not sure where we go from here we are a million miles from being where we need to be. Just got to keep fighting on until something changes

We keep replacing shit with shit.
But the new shit gets overated.
Heading for carbon copy of last season.

Back up for sale in Feb with the usual dummy out threat of the big A.

The magic roundabout of Failurism continues.

We are like a team of deep sea divers with lead boots.

5-3 defeat at York. I'll take that all day, 3 goals aways, fighting until the end. We don't have or every had a good away record at York.

What would have been the score if Sarll was still here 8-0 probably!!

We aren't performing great, but small steps in my opinion are starting to show, don't forget York were top and have the best defence record in the league.

We need to concentrate on home wins/results going forward.

You are right some players we brought in last summer you would think were the messis of the world, when in reality they were surplus to halifaxs and other teams requirements. Until we invest properly in the first team and management we are going from one disaster to another.

Not going to get promoted being happy with defeats though are we? If were happy to just stay in this league then yeah concentrating on winning at home is a must.

Crawley dodged a bullet offloading AC onto us.
Cudent hit a barn door.

Last time I looked York have not been promoted PTID

Where have I said they were promoted???

Don't get me wrong, I'm upset with the defeat and want out out of this league. However, I'm in the camp of we need can't win all games, but small steps are required to start rebuilding Foundations and getting the way LL wants us to play after Sarll rubbish. It's like having a major operation and not taking the time to recover from it.

I thought we were rubbish all day today so no improvement really, just found a different style if being rubbish.

You didn’t but you made reference to my comment that teams who have invested have got out of this league and used York as an example spent lots of money last season just survived spent little this season and flying high so I just pointed out they have not got out of this league yet
Maybe I should have said teams who have invested in the right type of players have got out of this shite league

The right players and manager, don't forget he turned them around with last seasons underachieving players.

Yeah a decent manager is a must we just don’t seem to be able to find one who can bring the feel good factor back to the club I thought we had one in KP who wanted to bring his own players in this year but Raj and his merry men knew best his money his decision

For those suggesting conceding 5 goals is progression then we might as well all pack in. We are so accepting of shite. This is national league football and whilst York are half decent, we basically set up 1st half to camp in and do our best to keep the scoreline amicable. York made 5 tremendous substitutions of quality to switch the game in their favour when they needed as Pools took a grip after Ferguson’s goal. We talk about squad depth but we are miles off it. That’s fine and it’s not Lennie’s fault but let’s not pretend we’re any further forward than we were 6 weeks ago.

So disillusioned with the whole thing at this point. Pools were crap for gods sake & are so middle of the road fodder it’s untrue. Season is dusted as it has unfolded yet again under the stewardship of Mr Raj.

To make matters worse the levels of misogyny directed at the female police officer on the way out left a bitter taste - get your tits out etc etc (very impressive lads) - whilst i saw 5 hammered Hartlepool fans trip up an innocent man minding his own business on the bridge in York after the bus dropped the fans at the station. The poor bloke hit the deck in front of his mrs before the Hartlepool ‘fans’ proceeded to laugh and call him a ‘wanker’ and celebrate their achievements. Fella wasn’t even a football supporter. Just all round shambles that to be honest.

The clubs in the muck and has been since Challinor left. There’s nothing to convince me otherwise but won’t be back to an away game for a little while. Enjoy the booze and the game but some of the behaviour was bang out of order & a very poor representation of the town of Hartlepool. Tin hat firmly placed on but there we go.

The only consolation was until today they’d only conceded nine goals…then we put three past them .
We need another keeper….for next week and your prayers

We only conceded 2 on paper as they conceded 3, don't forget that point.

Pools have been crap since 2005/06 season. Yes we bound back under Wilson in 06/07 with the best 0-3 win at Darlo. Then we have been in free fall since, even with the playoff win at Bristol.

As for the supporters behaviour, unfortunately this happens at most clubs. It's Morden social society, just look at the kids killing kids in the present day.

Enjoyed the day for me how he didn't play 532 and have Campbell in the team is beyond me.

Anyways had we had taken our chances today could have been so much better.

No we didn’t… we conceded 5 goals in our net. Unless I’m misunderstanding the rules of football, our goals don’t cancel out our goals conceded?

We haven’t been in free fall. Challinor raised the standards and everything moved with it.

I have seen lots of football over the years. All clubs have their idiots but I think we might be top of the league for this one. One thing we’re very good at at least.

And we put 3 balls in their net too
So on paper 5-3=2 so we only added -2 to our goal difference.

Clearly you don't see the gangs of teenage around East London beating up/stabbing random people or throwing acid in people faces for the fun of it. and this is nothing to do with football, it just pure evil, but disappear when West Ham are at home

You strike me as the kind of bloke who would enjoy cuckholding.

Well, I do get lonely in my wheelchair

Thought we were decent going forward in the first half but gifted them a 2 goal lead. Was sitting right behind Sass-Davies' air kick for the first - Pools won't concede a worse goal all season. And Brad Young didn't exactly cover himself in glory for the free kick!

When Fergie pulled one back (and what a well worked goal that was) it looked like game on - but their manager went straight to his bench and stuck on 3 more subs, including the next 2 goalscorers. By the time the new HUFC Brains Trust made their first change the game was over as a contest.

Positives: 1) Charman had his best game in a Pools' shirt. 2) We won't play sides with a starting 11 and bench as good as York's every week!

Negatives: Well, the IPTV community has already got them pretty well covered. Agree that if there's any justice Manny O will get a start next week. Billy S-D had an absolute shocker.

First half was a bit flat and two poor bits of defending cost us. Sass davies just had to get something on that and it wouldn't have been a goal, maybe the sun got in his eyes but still it was a Louis laing moment. Second goal I don't think young should be getting beat at his near post from that distance. Not sure how Campbell didn't score as well, looked harder to miss.
Second half was so much better until they got a third, I think most of us sensed an equaliser coming BUT as is the pools way we concede a goal where their player is allowed to shoot without any challenge, that totally killed the game.
Really think we need some pace at the back and Sass Davies seems to have a clanger in him. I'd also bring smith back in as young seems to look very fragile in goal, I certainly don't feel comfortable when he's playing. He pulls off the odd decent save but all keepers do that,it's the rest of his game that needs worked on.
Also think grey needs dropping unless he's going to be upfront in a two, he works hard but from a wide area offers very little. Couple new players in hopefully to freshen it up a bit.
Sure Andy Monkhouse was in the away end today as well!

Lenny must have forgotten how well Mani and Joe worked together when they played as a strike pairing.
Mani got f*ck all service again and f*ck all protection from the ref too. We can't change the latter but we need to improve the former.

You really must be related to Singh!! I'd be laughing if it wasn't so serious!!

What a strange comment?

Spot on Mutts.

[quote="thebigdog"]For those suggesting conceding 5 goals is progression then we might as well all pack in. We are so accepting of shite. This is national league football and whilst York are half decent, we basically set up 1st half to camp in and do our best to keep the scoreline amicable. York made 5 tremendous substitutions of quality to switch the game in their favour when they needed as Pools took a grip after Ferguson’s goal. We talk about squad depth but we are miles off it. That’s fine and it’s not Lennie’s fault but let’s not pretend we’re any further forward than we were 6 weeks ago.

So disillusioned with the whole thing at this point. Pools were crap for gods sake & are so middle of the road fodder it’s untrue. Season is dusted as it has unfolded yet again under the stewardship of Mr Raj.

To make matters worse the levels of misogyny directed at the female police officer on the way out left a bitter taste - get your tits out etc etc (very impressive lads) - whilst i saw 5 hammered Hartlepool fans trip up an innocent man minding his own business on the bridge in York after the bus dropped the fans at the station. The poor bloke hit the deck in front of his mrs before the Hartlepool ‘fans’ proceeded to laugh and call him a ‘wanker’ and celebrate their achievements. Fella wasn’t even a football supporter. Just all round shambles that to be honest.

The clubs in the muck and has been since Challinor left. There’s nothing to convince me otherwise but won’t be back to an away game for a little while. Enjoy the booze and the game but some of the behaviour was bang out of order & a very poor representation of the town of Hartlepool. Tin hat firmly placed on but there we go.[/quote]
Saw that myself must of been just behind you. Piss poor that from pools fans. Sums the whole club up at min accepting nonsense.

The propaganda machine never stops.

Just so sad to hear this. It's bad enough that the club is rotten behind the scenes but on the terraces too? Awful.

My sister was with me today and the degrading comments and noises made towards the female police officer has been enough for her to not want to go again.

The unprovoked attack on the York bridge was rank bad. Nobody else was behaving like that bar those 5 thugs. Dread to think what happened next.

When Raj goes we might get better or worse, until then the staff we've got have to improve performances is fact. Not propaganda, not spin, not pro Raj not anti Raj just a simple statement of fact.
Tell a lie, when he goes they might not get better or worse, they could stay the same.

I'll step out on a limb here but we would be better if the consortium had bought the club.

Nobody knows though do they? We might have got better, or worse, or stayed the same.

We all know which one is most likely.

Like it or not, there was no way that we were going to secure even a point today against a very good side playing with a high degree of confidence, with the current inadequate set of players. In my view a two goal deficit was probably the best we could have realistically expected. I agree that the defence didn’t exactly cover itself with glory, however if we had lost 2-0 or 3-1 - or even stolen a point - the Raj haters would still be posting their pointless bile tonight as if it will magically make some difference to the clubs current situation.

Anyone who seriously had the notion that the confirmation of LL as ‘permanent’ (lol) manager and the introduction of two coaches would suddenly transform the side into automatic promotion contenders is away with the proverbial fairies.

It is pointless harking back to the Challinor days and making senseless comparisons to today’s squad, we all know what happened then but the current position is not going to change overnight. Like several others I’ve been saying for weeks that this squad needs the addition of at least three or four QUALITY players (goalkeeper, centre back, midfielder, goalscorer) to make a realistic bash at the playoffs and the events of last week ain’t going to change that.

Don’t get me wrong, I would love - as much as anyone - to see the back of Raj and for him to sell up to an individual or consortium willing to inject some proper money into the club that would restore parity with the side that Challinor took into the EFL. However there was clearly no-one prepared to take control when Raj took over and there doesn’t appear to be any sugar daddy waiting in the wings just now either. I get that ranting and raving on this board may make the contributors feel better but that is the sum effect.

Pointless bile but yet you tend to belive raj that no one is intersted in taking over? Yet some have even come out and said they want too. We can continue to go down this road with this guy in charge and i hazard a guess it wont be great or we can actually step up and say enoughs enough and demand better it may fall on deaf ears but pressure by fans is the only hope we have. If thats pountless then we may as well have derby games with stockton and darlo in future

Fair enough. Got a problem with your last paragraph though. Buyers were found.

Your only a buyer if you can meet the sellers asking price short term/long term.
The seller holds the cards, Untill you can meet their price. You are then credible.

You can be a credible buyer but be faced by a less than credible price l.

You're only a buyer when you've bought something. They didn't, history.
Where we are is where we are, we need to improve on the pitch regardless of what's happening or not off the pitch.

You're only a seller when you're serious about selling. Otherwise you're just a bullshitting time waster.

Anyway, history.

Kind of fence sitting this but that aside I would say Sweens is better than anyone we brought in but he got shunted because our fan rep (or Raj-rep more accurately) fancied Sarll. I think that kind of sums up where we are as a club... farcical basically.
Obviously couldn’t blame any of the new appointments for today’s defeat but I also don’t see anything particularly convincing about the all new coaching set up so expect us to middle along. This is the Raj way.

Sweeney was touted as a future manager by Raj himself a number of years ago. Rumours are that he had plenty of opportunity to take the manager job buy turned it down on each occasion.
A 76 year old who's not had a full time job as manager in 19 years is not the answer.

thought campbell was the player fans wanted to be in the team and used correctly. maybe sarll was correct by leaving him out of the side and was carried by others at crawley. i,m still waiting to see what he has to offer in a game.