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 Post subject: Re: Winter Fuel Allowance Vote in Commons
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:54 pm 
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Why haven't these tossers gone after the cheating bastards from the Covid supply chain.

There must be the £1.3 billion needed to pay the WFA.

Mone & Co. seem to be getting away with millions.


Rumour has it the stacks of shipping containers near Heerema at the docks are full of out of date/unusable PPE.

Mone & Co need to be prosecuted.

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Critical Thinking wrote:
Why haven't these tossers gone after the cheating bastards from the Covid supply chain.

There must be the £1.3 billion needed to pay the WFA.

Mone & Co. seem to be getting away with millions.


Rumour has it the stacks of shipping containers near Heerema at the docks are full of out of date/unusable PPE.

Mone & Co need to be prosecuted.


I thought they were already under investigation along with a few others involved in the supply of PPE and the failed Track and Trace system not to the Steelworks site land
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next one will be the big increase in water rates to come. when will all this end. like being given a tenner and find out you need 15.


You got it in one,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8elewdzy59o


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We are gonna get screwed….end of.
Self inflicted and unnecessary….. :roll:

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Another thing gone up - TV Licence - from £159 to £169.50 - should be free, more so for old buggers like me @ 76!


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Critical Thinking wrote:
Another thing gone up - TV Licence - from £159 to £169.50 - should be free, more so for old buggers like me @ 76!

You’re right, just got mine delivered and it’s gone up to £15 a month. :angry-tappingfoot:
Why does it still exist is my question.

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Snowy wrote:
Critical Thinking wrote:
Another thing gone up - TV Licence - from £159 to £169.50 - should be free, more so for old buggers like me @ 76!

You’re right, just got mine delivered and it’s gone up to £15 a month. :angry-tappingfoot:
Why does it still exist is my question.


No reason to latest figures from ITV self funding, on an adjusted basis, pre-tax profit rose over 50 per cent to £178m in the six months to July, despite a marginal three per cent decline in revenue, to £1.9bn.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Fuel Allowance Vote in Commons
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Snowy wrote:
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Another thing gone up - TV Licence - from £159 to £169.50 - should be free, more so for old buggers like me @ 76!

You’re right, just got mine delivered and it’s gone up to £15 a month. :angry-tappingfoot:
Why does it still exist is my question.

it doesn,t with me as we do not pay it. like everything it should either be pay to view or kept going with advertising revenue. having to pay is akin to buying a season ticket and going to just one match a season for the amount of time i watch there channels.


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I have just got my letter from the DWP explaining the new arrangements.
11.6 million letters at 85p = £9.8million (ok they might get it cheaper)..........thats £2.5 million pints............... :obscene-drinkingcheers: in real money!

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Bluestreak wrote:
I have just got my letter from the DWP explaining the new arrangements.
11.6 million letters at 85p = £9.8million (ok they might get it cheaper)..........thats £2.5 million pints............... :obscene-drinkingcheers: in real money!


It'a a Government Department, so it'll go on expenses. :evil:

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It's very easy to opt out online.

You come round and tell our lass, but bring some TCP.
I’ll be out when she ‘explains’ it to you.

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 Post subject: Re: Winter Fuel Allowance Vote in Commons
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Takes less than a minute Snowy.


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Takes less than a minute Snowy.


That's why he said bring the TCP.

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derwent wrote:
Bluestreak wrote:
I have just got my letter from the DWP explaining the new arrangements.
11.6 million letters at 85p = £9.8million (ok they might get it cheaper)..........thats £2.5 million pints............... :obscene-drinkingcheers: in real money!


It'a a Government Department, so it'll go on expenses. :evil:

or helping party donors that supply paper.


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MutleyRules wrote:
Takes less than a minute Snowy.

I don’t pay it…she does….a very organised person….I bugger off with my muts. bbolt

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This £20m black hole is small fry when we've got a Foreign Secretary in favour of paying Trillions in reparation to the West Indies for the slave trading of centuries ago.
Wonder if we can get anything from Italy for the Roman invasions amd enslavery of Britons, or similarly the Scandinavians for the Vikings doing the same, and so on.......


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PTID wrote:
This £20m black hole is small fry when we've got a Foreign Secretary in favour of paying Trillions in reparation to the West Indies for the slave trading of centuries ago.
Wonder if we can get anything from Italy for the Roman invasions amd enslavery of Britons, or similarly the Scandinavians for the Vikings doing the same, and so on.......

or go back to africa and get the countries there who assisted in the slave trade who did the dirty work at the outset to cough up first. how about getting money from portugal, spain, france and the dutch for their part in it especiallt the first who was the major player. its always us thats made out to be the bad and only guy when the subject of slaves is always brought up.


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accrington fan wrote:
PTID wrote:
This £20m black hole is small fry when we've got a Foreign Secretary in favour of paying Trillions in reparation to the West Indies for the slave trading of centuries ago.
Wonder if we can get anything from Italy for the Roman invasions amd enslavery of Britons, or similarly the Scandinavians for the Vikings doing the same, and so on.......

or go back to africa and get the countries there who assisted in the slave trade who did the dirty work at the outset to cough up first. how about getting money from portugal, spain, france and the dutch for their part in it especiallt the first who was the major player. its always us thats made out to be the bad and only guy when the subject of slaves is always brought up.


I watched a program a while back where U.K. slave traders made an absolute fortune when slave tradING was declared illegal, many buildings were built using the money


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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PTID wrote:
This £20m black hole is small fry when we've got a Foreign Secretary in favour of paying Trillions in reparation to the West Indies for the slave trading of centuries ago.
Wonder if we can get anything from Italy for the Roman invasions amd enslavery of Britons, or similarly the Scandinavians for the Vikings doing the same, and so on.......

or go back to africa and get the countries there who assisted in the slave trade who did the dirty work at the outset to cough up first. how about getting money from portugal, spain, france and the dutch for their part in it especiallt the first who was the major player. its always us thats made out to be the bad and only guy when the subject of slaves is always brought up.


I watched a program a while back where U.K. slave traders made an absolute fortune when slave tradING was declared illegal, many buildings were built using the money

But that’s what they did then, it was the norm…no good putting present day morals( if we have any) on something we lead in abolishing 200 years ago.
No one is paying out in my name….let those who profited pay if they want to…but I can assure anybody my ancestors profited by not so much as a penny from it.
Will the Arabs who took most of the slaves be coughing up?
The Arabs castrated their slaves so there was no one left to compensate under their system….

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My letter telling me I'm getting nowt has just arrived.

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I’ve got the shredder on standby…trouble is you just like bunging things in it for satisfaction. :laugh: Easy pleased.

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Think they're covering their assessment with the letters so that they don't get accused of another WASPI type policy change.
Mind that couple in Scotland have managed to get the go ahead for a Judicial Review into how the change has been managed - could be lots of egg on faces of MPs if it turns out they've voted for a policy that didn't go through the correct due process.
Wonder if she'll manage to "find" enough down the back of the sofa to rescind it rather than it be dragged through the courts.


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accrington fan wrote:
next one will be the big increase in water rates to come. when will all this end. like being given a tenner and find out you need 15.


Southern Water are seeking a 84% rise over 5 years down here..folk are going to be scared to flush the bog in a few years time.


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accrington fan wrote:
next one will be the big increase in water rates to come. when will all this end. like being given a tenner and find out you need 15.


Southern Water are seeking a 84% rise over 5 years down here..folk are going to be scared to flush the bog in a few years time.


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Sussex UK wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
next one will be the big increase in water rates to come. when will all this end. like being given a tenner and find out you need 15.


Southern Water are seeking a 84% rise over 5 years down here..folk are going to be scared to flush the bog in a few years time.

that will be seen as a luxury and anybody who has a free public bog in the vacinity will be using them. new thing coming might be jail time for water thefts from reservoirs.


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They offer lovely cheap rates for water meter ‘clients/ hostages”…and when most people have one they’ll turn the screw on prices.
It’s supposed to be a business, but it’s a monopoly, you have no alternative supplier to turn to.

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They offer lovely cheap rates for water meter ‘clients/ hostages”…and when most people have one they’ll turn the screw on prices.
It’s supposed to be a business, but it’s a monopoly, you have no alternative supplier to turn to.


Utilities are something we all use with no other options, we get held to ransom by the privatised companies, prices should be set by the government not individual private companies all foreign owned.
In my second home utility prices are controlled by the government they actually come down in price on some occasions. Diesel is subsidised to the transportation companies to keep the cost of essentials down. I am not saying it’s perfect but no such thing as shareholders to answer to.


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There was a programme on Channel 5 about Smart meters on Thursday night.

Briefly it said they were massively miss sold because they were billed as saving customers, but the only people to benefit have been the power companies themselves through sacked meter readers etc. The power companies never passed those savings on, what a surprise!

Anyway, half way through this programme they wheeled out an expert to preach about how to make savings on energy bills. It was the same old stuff, however she said “it’s not the temperature of the house which is important, it’s the temperature of you, buy an electric blanket, sit in one room and save money” and I thought WOW, is this the future we’ve all been working for? A future where everyday people can’t afford to heat their homes in winter so have to resort to sitting under blankets and going to bed early.


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Yep, that and stopping us travelling as they price car ownership out of the reach of the plebs, food prices still soaring so more and more going to food banks (even though many are working) - then they'll start nationalising the food banks and we'll all be queuing up with our ration books. Labours vision of the future. Don't worry though assisted dying will be legalised first of all for those with no medical hope then for all who have no hope.


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got a feeling those who travel away to watch pools and anyone living a few miles from the vic should get their arses in gear if they can afford and do as many games as possible before they get priced out with fuel costs, road charging and every other thing available to keep us in our homes. Looking back only a few years to pre covid the only way you could be assured of watching your team below the premier league was going to a match. Now without dodgy boxes etc. you can see all mid week, bank holiday and international break fixtures from your chair. Once a deal to screen saturday 3pm fixures get agreed you know then our freedoms will be lost.


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got a feeling those who travel away to watch pools and anyone living a few miles from the vic should get their arses in gear if they can afford and do as many games as possible before they get priced out with fuel costs, road charging and every other thing available to keep us in our homes. Looking back only a few years to pre covid the only way you could be assured of watching your team below the premier league was going to a match. Now without dodgy boxes etc. you can see all mid week, bank holiday and international break fixtures from your chair. Once a deal to screen saturday 3pm fixures get agreed you know then our freedoms will be lost.

Blair’s office has asked for a penny a mile on driving….if true, would it go on petrol or a tax bill every time you get an MOT.

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Snowy wrote:
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got a feeling those who travel away to watch pools and anyone living a few miles from the vic should get their arses in gear if they can afford and do as many games as possible before they get priced out with fuel costs, road charging and every other thing available to keep us in our homes. Looking back only a few years to pre covid the only way you could be assured of watching your team below the premier league was going to a match. Now without dodgy boxes etc. you can see all mid week, bank holiday and international break fixtures from your chair. Once a deal to screen saturday 3pm fixures get agreed you know then our freedoms will be lost.

Blair’s office has asked for a penny a mile on driving….if true, would it go on petrol or a tax bill every time you get an MOT.

do a 100 mile then its an extra quid they,d want. on an average small car doing 50 mpg that would cost another 50p per gallon or about 11p a litre extra on fuel. at least everyone would pay their fair share and cannot fiddle it like an easy disconnection of a speedo after a rough idea of your speed using the rev. counter only which i,d probebly do.


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Is Blair relevant in any way now?


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Someone’s working the strings on Starmer…badly. :roll:

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Blair is a part of the WEF, who are pulling Blairs strings.
Starmer is not even going to last much beyond xmas imo. They'll let him announce all the shit ghats heading our way then replace him.


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Sue Gray took a lot of flak as she was not politically astute. There is no obvious replacement for him as he selected/vetted most in the cabinet.
Eddie Izard? :)

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Blair is a part of the WEF, who are pulling Blairs strings.
Starmer is not even going to last much beyond xmas imo. They'll let him announce all the shit ghats heading our way then replace him.

why bother because they,ll appoint someone just the same who is closer to the WEF and WHO than the british public. its not as if the tories were not in bed with those organisations either.


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Sue Gray took a lot of flak as she was not politically astute. There is no obvious replacement for him as he selected/vetted most in the cabinet.
Eddie Izard? :)

That’s when we do lower the lifeboats.

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Unite, the largest union have given the government until Nov 7th to reverse the WFA cut or they're going to start legal proceedings against them using the Judicial Review Process. Be interesting to see if Starmer UTurms again or goes against the paymasters of the Labour Party.


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