Looked his age yesterday, also lucky not to be sent off from the corner we had ala Braintree

I would put sass-Davies in front of him on current form and gives Parkes armband, nothing against him but think they are our best 2 centre backs currently

I think Waterfall does not get on with Snarll or his handling of players.

Wouldn’t surprise me, he’s an
Experienced pro and can likely detect bullshit from a mile away

Regardless of if he does or doesn't get on with Sarly, there is simply no need in a million years for the Captain and so-called leader to behave in the way he has this season. Maybe it's because his football life is quickly passing by and his legs have gone. Still a strange way for an experienced player to behave in any capacity. He has gone from a steady player and leader from last season to a player who would have been well respected at the old Wimbledon crazy gang thugs.

Perhaps explains why Grimsby were so keen to get rid ?

He's looking more of a liability this season, very slow and not great on the ball. Also seems hell bent on getting sent off every game. Sass Davies needs to start with parkes.

It’s become evident, looking at all of our central defenders, that we are in need of a different type of player in that position - someone with a bit of pace. As soon as the ball is played behind the back line and our defence has to turn we are in trouble.

We need to find another Chris Westwood from somewhere…

I said at the start of the season we can’t play a high line with the center backs we have, the best option if we continue to play that way is to partner Parkes with
Mani O ….though he always has a mistake in him

Parkes, Mani O, Sass Davies back 3 with Dodds and Fergy (or Aswime) playing wing back would work imo.

You’re right, and he seems well out of favour with the current regime…

je actually started the season for grimsby and got injured. was never seen again when a new manager took over with his demands on playing out from the back no matter what.

Understand that Leggie 100%.

But myself i would hate to have to listen to THAT every day, Demoralizing:

Yeh Waterfall is finished for me - plus we cant have him nearly getting a red every game. The team bust be anxious as hell every time he goes for the tackle. Give Parkes the Armband for sure !

Waterfall joined us at the end of January and along with Parkes looked a class above the poor excuses for centre backs Pools had been struggling with.

Now at a few months over 34 he's suddenly finished? That's not even old for a cb! I'll give him the benefit of the doubt till I can see how he plays under a new manager.

Got to agree Mr Hogans
These are exceptional circumstances - who knows what he's been instructed to do by Uncle Darren?
In fact I think you could say that about all the players. Just got to hope that Carry On Hoofball is coming to an end soon.

We've got what I would term pretty favourable fixtures this month- should be winning at least 3 of the next 4, (Brackley in the Cup, then Maidenhead & Alty, both away and the Shots at home) otherwise Bernie Bresslaw needs to Fuck Off

Also agreed. It's not like he has lost his pace (he never really had any to begin with) or is getting outmuscled/can't tackle anymore. It's more the fact he just does something so stupid every game that could end up in a red card.


The issue I have is that if he messes up those games and gets sacked, a new manager has to come in and deal with York, Eastleigh and Solihull as their first 3 games, with Barnet (twice), Oldham and Gateshead also coming in their first 10. Uncle Darren will have then wasted games against Wealdstone, Braintree, Woking, Ebbsfleet and Southend (who look awful this season) along with whoever we don't get 3 points from from the league games you mentioned.

Here are some statistics about Waterfall who started his career in 2008/9 and played just over 80 games in his first 6 years without getting sent off. He has a total of 8 red cards to his name, 5 straight reds and 3 other as follows:

15/16 straight red
17/18 "
19/20 "
20/21 double booking red
21/22 straight red
23/24 double booking red
24/25 straight red & double booking red

He has had a red every season from 15/16 onwards. This season he has had the two reds so far and is lucky it wasn't three. I believe he missed 2 / 3 games injured and was suspected for 5 this season. It works out at 2 reds ( possibly should have been 3 ) in only 5 games so far. I can totally understand players who are getting to the end of their careers and being 33 / 34 years old loosing a bit of pace and having to pull one or two players back or mistime challenges. What concerns me the most is it's a big change to his game getting 2 reds in 5 games with 3/4 of the season left. At this rate he could get quite a few more reds before the season ends. It's very worrying the way it's turning out for him this season and I believe it needs sorting out urgently. It's difficult to put your finger on especially given he is now the Captain and a major experienced leader of the team. For christ sake he simply must stop this madness and instead show these younger players how to behave on the pitch. I have seen no evidence of him and management falling out, because if that was true he would have lost the Captaincy by now. The other point is if something is wrong behind the scenes why would he get his starting spot back from Sass-Davies a player who has been sound in every game he has played. I can only suggest it's possibly something at home that's causing his head to go. Either way get that band off him and give it to the player who should have had it in the first place, that
solid man mountain and team leader Parksy. And leave Sass-Davies in the team and let Waterfall fight for the shirt. A few games on the bench might get him motivated. Afterall didn't Sarly say everyone plays on merit and the players will have to fight to get into or back into the first 11.

"Afterall didn't Sarly say everyone plays on merit and the players will have to fight to get into or back into the first 11"

Snarll opens his mouth and his arse falls out.

I know what you mean Krampesh- however I really don't think we need to be worried about playing ANY team in this god awful league, with the players we have at our disposal, and virtually all of them fit. BIG credit must go to Danny the Physio for emptying out the treatment room

The biggest issue is having a manager/ head coach who sets the team up to play to it's strengths. We should be ripping teams a new one (maybe not every week) but the likes on ManiD, Grey, Mancini, Campbell and a fit Madine would start regularly, in every other team in this league.

As has been said by many previously - NO excuses can be hidden behind this season. We all know that the reason we are where we are, lies purely with Uncle Darren and his inability to put down his paint by numbers!

Yeah you’re right Kettering, I’ve been dragged down to thinking we’re the underdogs by Sarll’s football. Realistically I wouldn’t mind us playing more defensive against the better resourced teams in the league (but not the kick and hope stuff) as long as we play to our attacking players strengths in the other 90% of games. We need wins now not draws to get us up the league so hopefully (as you say) Sarll picks a formation and a set of players and plays to their strengths or fucks off quickly

hust wonder if he only got the captains job because referees give captains a bit more leeway that the other 10 in the side regarding cautions or sending offs. his offences were hust too bad to be given a second chance. lots of teams give the job to a gobby player always previously been in trouble with officials because they cannot keep their gobs shut.