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 Post subject: Kevin Phillips
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Set to be announced the new Fylde manager. Thoughts on him chaps?


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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I thought he was shit and we made the right decision letting him go. Some people liked him though.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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I have no thoughts he came, he went.

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Not tactically great but the players seemed to love him and he improved a fair few from when he joined. Some good results, one horrific but overall a big improvement on what came before.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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Set to be announced the new Fylde manager. Thoughts on him chaps?


He could do alright if he gets a proper go at it. But can I recommend that you have a word with your Chairman and recommend our very own and top quality proper football technician Darren Sarll who would be by far and away your better choice of a solid leader. :laugh: You may need neck supports to totally appreciate the quality he brings. He is quite possibly the best manager since we started in 1908. He can also bring along two of the very best players ever to grace this division, Waterfall and Ferguson. What a deal for you lot ..you sign one you get two free. :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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He's one of these new managers who like to play it out from the back, get to the half way line then play it back again. For me I hate that style of football. Hartlepool supporters were warned by south shields supporters that he wasn't as good a manager as you'd think, they were right.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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COASTERS wrote:
Set to be announced the new Fylde manager. Thoughts on him chaps?

He may attract some good players for you. Thought he was ok, nothing special.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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We were hugely better with him in charge.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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Leggie43 wrote:
COASTERS wrote:
Set to be announced the new Fylde manager. Thoughts on him chaps?


He could do alright if he gets a proper go at it. But can I recommend that you have a word with your Chairman and recommend our very own and top quality proper football technician Darren Sarll who would be by far and away your better choice of a solid leader. :laugh: You may need neck supports to totally appreciate the quality he brings. He is quite possibly the best manager since we started in 1908. He can also bring along two of the very best players ever to grace this division, Waterfall and Ferguson. What a deal for you lot ..you sign one you get two free. :laugh:


And we genuine (clever dick) fans will happily deliver him to yous.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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We were hugely better with him in charge.

He didn’t have much to beat to be fair…in fact so was our lass. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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Dreadful manager but id have him any day over this chancer.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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At least KP has a bit of character and respect within the game as a player. He also has the potential to become a decent manager if properly supported and backed. KP never had a chance in that respect at the Vic. Conversely, his successor, 'Knees Up Mother Brown' has had everything placed on a plate before him but has fcuked up big time.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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I didn’t rate him at all, spent most of his time licking the chairman’s arse

He has improved in most people’s eyes because the current halfwit is actively sabotaging the team, when the worst Phillips will do is blandly not improve it

His profile may help get some signings in, and he typically won’t join unless he’s been promised some backing


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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I didn’t rate him at all, spent most of his time licking the chairman’s arse

He has improved in most people’s eyes because the current halfwit is actively sabotaging the team, when the worst Phillips will do is blandly not improve it

His profile may help get some signings in, and he typically won’t join unless he’s been promised some backing


We HUFC struggling to compete in division 5 so don't think we ever Gunna get the perfect manager.
Your hero is only overated by you Askey
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As for the here n now I'd put this crank on gardening leave with LL and let Fevs run the show which I'm confident the players would be over the moon with.
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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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Dreadful manager but id have him any day over this chancer.

No, we have to stop accepting dross and get the managerial appointment right.
Tired, tired, tired of the line of bang average at best managers since Challinor left.

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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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The thing is that Challinor had done nowt until he came to us, he'd been sacked by Fylde and was languishing on the dole wasn't he?
Not many were complaining about the Sarll appointment before the season started, or indeed after the 1st few league games.
At the end of the day in thus division the only successful managers are the 2 that win promotion each season. It's a tough tough job at every club in this league and it's always a gamble bringing in a new manager, unless you've got a basic footballing identity and can promote from within if the manager leaves.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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The thing is that Challinor had done nowt until he came to us, he'd been sacked by Fylde and was languishing on the dole wasn't he?
Not many were complaining about the Sarll appointment before the season started, or indeed after the 1st few league games.
At the end of the day in thus division the only successful managers are the 2 that win promotion each season. It's a tough tough job at every club in this league and it's always a gamble bringing in a new manager, unless you've got a basic footballing identity and can promote from within if the manager leaves.

its a case of be careful what we wish for. its like others have said philips gets more credit now because of what replaced him. Challinor did nowt before coming to us is a laugh. He gained promotions with colwyn bay and fylde and the fylde owner just had less patiance than possibly their fans had by sacking him after his one and only bad start in his career in the job. correct about sarll at the time of his appointment but many of us were not happy with what was on offer before defeats came up.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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His promotion with Fylde was from NLN so below our level, he was sacked because he'd taken Fylde into a relegation position in NL so hardly a stellar managerial career. You could argue that both Harrison and Hartley had probably as good managerial history. The huge turning point for Challinor was getting Armstrong on loan and pairing him with Oates. If that hadn't happened who knows where he'd be now.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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Askey by far our best manager since challinor sadly we (and I was one of the we) lost patience too soon without giving him a proper chance


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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Unfortunately it was a case of right man at the wrong time, if Askey had this squad I reckon we'd be storming this league.
Now we've got the wrong man at the wrong time, we need a manager with genuine footballing principles who likes the game played on the grass.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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The thing is football is a results game and if you don’t get them your out. How many managers do a great job getting a club promotion and then struggle in the league above subsequently getting the sack. Getting the sack happens to virtually all managers at some time in their careers.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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I see he has Truro in the playoffs long way to go but we may just see him again next year

I suspect he would get a decent reception too, seemed a genuinely decent bloke


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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His promotion with Fylde was from NLN so below our level, he was sacked because he'd taken Fylde into a relegation position in NL so hardly a stellar managerial career. You could argue that both Harrison and Hartley had probably as good managerial history. The huge turning point for Challinor was getting Armstrong on loan and pairing him with Oates. If that hadn't happened who knows where he'd be now.

But he actually did sign the players you mention but that’s what mangers do, but a team does not consist of two players.
He succeeded, but the promotion season started badly but turned round but there were complaints about him as well on here, but the fact is he got us promoted and went on to better things.
My only gripe was his leaving. I half expected him to go so why not just say he’d had a better offer, I could accept that reluctantly, there were too many positives for him there and not just money.
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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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loyal_fan wrote:
Askey by far our best manager since challinor sadly we (and I was one of the we) lost patience too soon without giving him a proper chance

if only the injuries we got under him that caused a drop off in form for others had actually never happened last season and this would have turned out differently for us and the club. convinced we,d have made the play offs but could never see it under phillips or the bullshitter.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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His promotion with Fylde was from NLN so below our level, he was sacked because he'd taken Fylde into a relegation position in NL so hardly a stellar managerial career. You could argue that both Harrison and Hartley had probably as good managerial history. The huge turning point for Challinor was getting Armstrong on loan and pairing him with Oates. If that hadn't happened who knows where he'd be now.

But he actually did sign the players you mention but that’s what mangers do, but a team does not consist of two players.
He succeeded, but the promotion season started badly but turned round but there were complaints about him as well on here, but the fact is he got us promoted and went on to better things.
My only gripe was his leaving. I half expected him to go so why not just say he’d had a better offer, I could accept that reluctantly, there were too many positives for him there and not just money.
That’s life.

one new signing can change a team for the better like armstrong did. not just by his performances but others like oates looked new players after he was brought in. at least the team looked to have a plan behind it and looking back since the play off final win we might have been better losing that game as i doubt challinor would have gone if we had lost it and we might have been in a better position a year later. all promotion gave us were runs in knock out competitions to remember the two seasons by in a positive manner.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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At least KP has a bit of character and respect within the game as a player. He also has the potential to become a decent manager if properly supported and backed. KP never had a chance in that respect at the Vic. Conversely, his successor, 'Knees Up Mother Brown' has had everything placed on a plate before him but has fcuked up big time.

its his last real chance in the game at this standard to prove himself as a manager. for many people even as a player he is kevin who as even his england appearances have been forgotton by many. as a regular watcher of the game show pointless he was a pointless answer to a question about ex england internationals.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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The thing is football is a results game and if you don’t get them your out. How many managers do a great job getting a club promotion and then struggle in the league above subsequently getting the sack. Getting the sack happens to virtually all managers at some time in their careers.


Even the great man Cloughie. But that sacking by Leeds after one month paid off Cloughies mortgage and allowed him to relax financially which made him even better at his job. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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The football was a bit boring under KP,but I think he done quite well considering the defence was absolute garbage,midfield hopeless.
Plus,most weeks he didn’t have enough players to fill then bench & had to use academy lads.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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I didn’t rate him at all, spent most of his time licking the chairman’s arse

He has improved in most people’s eyes because the current halfwit is actively sabotaging the team, when the worst Phillips will do is blandly not improve it

His profile may help get some signings in, and he typically won’t join unless he’s been promised some backing


We HUFC struggling to compete in division 5 so don't think we ever Gunna get the perfect manager.
Your hero is only overated by you Askey
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As for the here n now I'd put this crank on gardening leave with LL and let Fevs run the show which I'm confident the players would be over the moon with.
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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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Not tactically great but the players seemed to love him and he improved a fair few from when he joined. Some good results, one horrific but overall a big improvement on what came before.


This. It's amazing how some people bang on endlessly about that one result when over his 17 games in charge Phillips had the best points return of any Pools manager since Challinor. Rob Elliot's Heed side got thumped 7-1 a couple of weeks ago but it didn't prevent a League One side taking him on as manager. Freakishly bad results happen in football.

Anyway if Phillips does go to Fylde we still have to play them twice this season - 2 chances to crow or to eat humble pie? We'll find out soon enough.


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My first thoughts go to the team at the Guinness book of records..How do they manage to keep up with all the comings and goings!!? sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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Krampesh wrote:
Not tactically great but the players seemed to love him and he improved a fair few from when he joined. Some good results, one horrific but overall a big improvement on what came before.


This. It's amazing how some people bang on endlessly about that one result when over his 17 games in charge Phillips had the best points return of any Pools manager since Challinor. Rob Elliot's Heed side got thumped 7-1 a couple of weeks ago but it didn't prevent a League One side taking him on as manager. Freakishly bad results happen in football.

Anyway if Phillips does go to Fylde we still have to play them twice this season - 2 chances to crow or to eat humble pie? We'll find out soon enough.

exactly. at times you think he only managed the side in one game. even in that game the first half was adequate but they scored on what looked like every chance they got after the break. like their defeat by a similar score it was a one off like we get one of those games every season even at the vic. torquay and evertons kids come quickly to mind. just we cannot do the opposite and will never do with sarll in charge.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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With what KP was left with... plus some unfortunate loan deals i thought he did really well. He kept it too safe at times and we could of had another 2 wins from it should he have maybe had the personal off the bench to help support but thats all history now. He will no doubt get you some good results and probably come in with alot of ideas and get certain players fired up. He has a career ahead of him in management and will no doubt become a league manager at some point.


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With what KP was left with... plus some unfortunate loan deals i thought he did really well. He kept it too safe at times and we could of had another 2 wins from it should he have maybe had the personal off the bench to help support but thats all history now. He will no doubt get you some good results and probably come in with alot of ideas and get certain players fired up. He has a career ahead of him in management and will no doubt become a league manager at some point.

difference was that last season it was all about consolidation which more or less happened therefore he did the job he was appointed for. this season it was about pushing the club on towards the play offs. obviously he was not thought good enough but recent events have shown he could not have been any worse a choice.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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Announced at Fylde.

While here "Uncle Darren" gets Mollycoddled.

Unbelievable Jeff.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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Yeah, I would never have thought that Raj would turn out to be 'a friendly arm around the shoulder' Chairman to a (badly) failing manager. Must be going soft in his old age.


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 Post subject: Re: Kevin Phillips
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Smokin Joe wrote:
At least KP has a bit of character and respect within the game as a player. He also has the potential to become a decent manager if properly supported and backed. KP never had a chance in that respect at the Vic. Conversely, his successor, 'Knees Up Mother Brown' has had everything placed on a plate before him but has fcuked up big time.


And he will fuck up again very shortly, Because ? He is thick as a brick.

And because certain people inside the club will NOT hold their hands up and say WE got it wrong.


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With what KP was left with... plus some unfortunate loan deals i thought he did really well. He kept it too safe at times and we could of had another 2 wins from it should he have maybe had the personal off the bench to help support but thats all history now. He will no doubt get you some good results and probably come in with alot of ideas and get certain players fired up. He has a career ahead of him in management and will no doubt become a league manager at some point.

difference was that last season it was all about consolidation which more or less happened therefore he did the job he was appointed for. this season it was about pushing the club on towards the play offs. obviously he was not thought good enough but recent events have shown he could not have been any worse a choice.


Not thought good enough by our fantastic board, ( Walter Mitty Shithead and Steele ?)who believed Sarll was good enough (Great Interviewer). He did alright with what he took over. Made a hell of a difference to Grey. If he'd been given the support in summer that Sarll was i believe we'd be in a better position than we are currently are.
Never believed Sarll was good enough, his track record isn't great, but believed we had a decent squad and might compete at top end of table. Not with Sarll's tactics, does he actually have tactics? Oh yes, kick it as far as possible lads.


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At least KP has a bit of character and respect within the game as a player. He also has the potential to become a decent manager if properly supported and backed. KP never had a chance in that respect at the Vic. Conversely, his successor, 'Knees Up Mother Brown' has had everything placed on a plate before him but has fcuked up big time.


And he will fuck up again very shortly, Because ? He is thick as a brick.

And because certain people inside the club will NOT hold their hands up and say WE got it wrong.


And that stupid stubernous not to admit they called it wrong and carry on with this clampet will mean anutha false dawn.
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