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 Post subject: Neil Byrne.
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Off to Tranmere, will we have enough players to make a starting 11 ?
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 Post subject: Re: Neil Byrne.
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Byrne was very steady away for us last season. Tranmere certainly thought so if they're going to pay a fee for him! Hope it's more than we paid Halifax!


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Disappointed. Thought he was very solid last season. Perhaps didn't do enough in the opposition penalty area ? Hopefully getting a decent fee in return.


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How you spinning this one into a positive Snowy lad!?


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Another player leaving for a league 2 team. Doesn't take a genius to work out why.


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How you spinning this one into a positive Snowy lad!?

Spin what? Are you serious…? It’s football doing what football does.
If this is how worked up you get about football I wouldn’t you want you as back up in the real world.
Most of these players leaving were getting slagged off last season, yet now they’re the cement holding the team together. Really?
I got over Terry Bell going to Reading and never looked back, no one’s died, WW3 hasn’t started, a bit of football horse trading has gone on.
I’m chilled. :cool:

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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Another player leaving for a league 2 team. Doesn't take a genius to work out why.

Explain it then….?

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Must be some excellent Loan deals lined up!

Hartley will be a master manager if he gets us out of the bottom 6 without some big deals.


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Must be some excellent Loan deals lined up!

Hartley will be a master manager if he gets us out of the bottom 6 without some big deals.



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 Post subject: Re: Neil Byrne.
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Shouldn't be letting players like Byrne go if we're serious about progressing. One of our better players last season, all our players available if there's money involved?


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1966.."Shouldn't be letting players like Byrne go if we're serious about progressing"

...progressing?..ffs...hes 29..go look at the teams he's played for in his career and wonder why?..if we want to progress to the next level we need better than him that's for sure.. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Neil Byrne.
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It’s not ‘how football works’ though is it Snowy. I’m not getting worked up either just always find your responses amusing.

I don’t think there’s a team in bigger transition than Pools in the whole EFL. Losing all their best, replacing them with gambles is how I see it right now. Byrne should not be sold.


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Snowy and Poolie1 - like a cute little couple :) so cute.


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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
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Must be some excellent Loan deals lined up!

Hartley will be a master manager if he gets us out of the bottom 6 without some big deals.



Falkirk


Did read the Falkirk fan response to Hartley signature. Large upheaval and all went wrong but you’d hope he has learnt from this - and this exodus is by financial force rather than choice.


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 Post subject: Re: Neil Byrne.
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Even Sergey Lavrov couldnt put a positive spin on this one, although HUFC's self nominated propaganda officers could have a good go. This isnt selling our best players.... this is a Special Transfer Operation.


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The top 5 players from last season for me were Molyneux, Timi, Ferguson, Sterry and Byrne. To be starting the next season with just 2 of those isn’t good. There’s no benefit to Pools to sell Byrne, I don’t imagine he’s on a particularly high wage having come from Halifax and I’d rather ensure we have a solid league 2 player to fall back on if PH’s new signings don’t hit the ground running.


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pesh..solid league 2 player?..you mean a solid non league player ?

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poolie1 wrote:
pesh..solid league 2 player?..you mean a solid non league player ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neill_Byrne


I don’t understand how you could’ve watched him last season and come away believing he’s non league quality


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 Post subject: Re: Neil Byrne.
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Oh the wailing and teeth gnashing over bang average players on their way.
These players were never going to get you promoted, because with a number of exceptions were nothing special…. Some of you even went to the ridiculous, self delusional lengths of believing they were that good Challinor would come back and buy them ….. and what happened….ZILCH, NOTHING…..he wasn’t remotely interested in anyone….apart from one late season back up who didn’t even figure in this wonderful team’s line up.
Obviously some on here see Byrne as another comfort blanket being shredded, while Hartley has seen different ….. unless things change.
The usual suspects naturally are out seizing any opportunity to denigrate the club remorselessly to what end I have no idea.
The we want, you listen, you comply mantra still being banged out like a cow farting, pushing hot air into the atmosphere, adding to global warming but little else.

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 Post subject: Re: Neil Byrne.
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Even Sergey Lavrov couldnt put a positive spin on this one, although HUFC's self nominated propaganda officers could have a good go. This isnt selling our best players.... this is a Special Transfer Operation.

‘Best player’ category for Byrne….. :laugh: if we’re talking Russian comparisons you appear to be the the one with the NKVD mindset, the little commisar who pops up on occasions like this to add to the confusion.

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 Post subject: Re: Neil Byrne.
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Oh the wailing and teeth gnashing over bang average players on their way.
These players were never going to get you promoted, because with a number of exceptions were nothing special…. Some of you even went to the ridiculous, self delusional lengths of believing they were that good Challinor would come back and buy them ….. and what happened….ZILCH, NOTHING…..he wasn’t remotely interested in anyone….apart from one late season back up who didn’t even figure in this wonderful team’s line up.
Obviously some on here see Byrne as another comfort blanket being shredded, while Hartley has seen different ….. unless things change.
The usual suspects naturally are out seizing any opportunity to denigrate the club remorselessly to what end I have no idea.
The we want, you listen, you comply mantra still being banged out like a cow farting, pushing hot air into the atmosphere, adding to global warming but little else.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

No, seriously - at this point - you actually have to be Raj Singh. I’ve long suspected it. Snowy is Raj Singh!


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Snowy wrote:
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Even Sergey Lavrov couldnt put a positive spin on this one, although HUFC's self nominated propaganda officers could have a good go. This isnt selling our best players.... this is a Special Transfer Operation.

‘Best player’ category for Byrne….. :laugh: if we’re talking Russian comparisons you appear to be the the one with the NKVD mindset, the little commisar who pops up on occasions like this to add to the confusion.


Have you noticed how all these players are going to teams who finished higher than Hartlepool last season? I hope we replace these outgoings with players who played 30+ games at our level or above for next season. Perhaps rather than another 8 Scots who haven’t played EFL football before.


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Oh the wailing and teeth gnashing over bang average players on their way.
These players were never going to get you promoted, because with a number of exceptions were nothing special…. Some of you even went to the ridiculous, self delusional lengths of believing they were that good Challinor would come back and buy them ….. and what happened….ZILCH, NOTHING…..he wasn’t remotely interested in anyone….apart from one late season back up who didn’t even figure in this wonderful team’s line up.
Obviously some on here see Byrne as another comfort blanket being shredded, while Hartley has seen different ….. unless things change.
The usual suspects naturally are out seizing any opportunity to denigrate the club remorselessly to what end I have no idea.
The we want, you listen, you comply mantra still being banged out like a cow farting, pushing hot air into the atmosphere, adding to global warming but little else.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

No, seriously - at this point - you actually have to be Raj Singh. I’ve long suspected it. Snowy is Raj Singh!

No, just someone who doesn’t share your opinion. Obviously that’s difficult for you because it appears you can’t believe or come to terms with anyone having an opposing view to yours.
I know who I am and I’m not covered in wool or bleat.

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actually saddened by losing him more than the others who have left since the end of last season. suppose i,ll have to find another comfort blanket now.


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poolie1 wrote:
pesh..solid league 2 player?..you mean a solid non league player ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neill_Byrne

although he was younger you could have said that about jamie vardy before he got into the league. would he have been a better or worse player if he had not come from non league.


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[quote="Snowy"]Oh the wailing and teeth gnashing over bang average players on their way.
These players were never going to get you promoted, because with a number of exceptions were nothing special…. Some of you even went to the ridiculous, self delusional lengths of believing they were that good Challinor would come back and buy them ….. and what happened….ZILCH, NOTHING…..he wasn’t remotely interested in anyone….apart from one late season back up who didn’t even figure in this wonderful team’s line up.
more of a case that challinor had the money to sign better players than the ones he left behind and not rating those who he left. he is shopping now in a completely different league where money is the least of his worries. be interesting how all these ex poolies do with their new clubs and if they are regular starters or not. got a feeling that more than one will think back to the good old days where they were regular starters and not bench warmers picking up a few quid extra and around where we are in the league.


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It’s not ‘how football works’ though is it Snowy. I’m not getting worked up either just always find your responses amusing.

I don’t think there’s a team in bigger transition than Pools in the whole EFL. Losing all their best, replacing them with gambles is how I see it right now. Byrne should not be sold.


We getting the best freebies in june/July.
The proper signings will arrive on transfer deadline week.
Keeping the Faith.
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Snowy and Poolie1 - like a cute little couple :) so cute.


Are we all invited to the Wedding.
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thebigdog wrote:
Snowy and Poolie1 - like a cute little couple :) so cute.

Surely, ….so annoying…for you. :laugh:

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Snowy and Poolie1 - like a cute little couple :) so cute.


Are we all invited to the Wedding.
therethere :lol: :lol:

Of course, bring your husband along.

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Another player leaving for a league 2 team. Doesn't take a genius to work out why.

Explain it then….?


Better wages.


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Have you noticed how all these players are going to teams who finished higher than Hartlepool last season?


clappp Great to see someone make an actual point for a change. Automatically talking down the ability of every player who leaves Pools this summer isn't particularly smart and always begs the question, 'How do you know the ones coming in are going to be better?'

Pools finished last season in relegation form but the same group of players exceeded all expectations in cup competitions. Pretending that players who are leaving are average or worse makes no sense when they are being cherry picked by League 2 rivals with deep pockets.

Like every other Pools fan I'll take it on trust that Paul Hartley knows what he wants and will produce a better side next season. Can only hope there's some exciting incomings just around the corner - lads who have played at a higher level than Pools are currently at.


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pesh..."I don’t understand how you could’ve watched him last season and come away believing he’s non league quality"

..afraid plenty of others have seen it my way and not yours...that's why last year as i say was his first and only season playing league football...and he's 29 ffs..his career shows you how good he is...hes a central defender with no aggression in him...i would be happy to play against him and i'm a wimp...he is soft as soft can be..when did you ever see him make a crunching tackle?..or more to the point stick his head in where he might get hurt?..he does not attack the ball or the opposition...if you like a gareth southgate type as a centre half then yeah this is your man..personally prefer a john gill, billy ayre, john mcphail, mick smith,mickey nelson type of a defender tbh..i'll wave him bye bye with no tears..he will be forgotten quickly by the fanbase..reached his peak with us... :roll:


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billy..."Better wages"

...byrne has a year left on his contract..he goes only if hartley thinks hes shite ..has played a lot of his career in the north west..tranmere would suit..believe he has just got engaged to a lass from around there...for gods sake give the "cheap option" a rest and have a day off...just more of the "more money at shields"garbage again and again and again..from your club insider the "horses mouth"..talk about a broken record..ffs.. yawn1 :liar:

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Flying Hogans wrote:
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Have you noticed how all these players are going to teams who finished higher than Hartlepool last season?


clappp Great to see someone make an actual point for a change. Automatically talking down the ability of every player who leaves Pools this summer isn't particularly smart and always begs the question, 'How do you know the ones coming in are going to be better?'

Pools finished last season in relegation form but the same group of players exceeded all expectations in cup competitions. Pretending that players who are leaving are average or worse makes no sense when they are being cherry picked by League 2 rivals with deep pockets.

Like every other Pools fan I'll take it on trust that Paul Hartley knows what he wants and will produce a better side next season. Can only hope there's some exciting incomings just around the corner - lads who have played at a higher level than Pools are currently at.


Perhaps some Pools fans need to come to the realisation that we're not at big draw in this league, there's many teams bigger than us who have the budget to offer our better players a better deal, Byrne is a good defender and it'd be a kick between the legs if we sold him, Raj promised a playoff budget this season let's see what the squad looks like when the window closes and then decide if we want to hang Raj by his ankles.


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Probably will end up at Tranmere... didnt feature yesterday for long so makes sense.

if anyone watched yesterdays game you will have seen new signing Murray basically handle everything Hibs threw at him - given hes weeks away from actual match sharpness he looked very good to me - suspect there will be another CB through the door should Byrne leave.


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Perhaps some Pools fans need to come to the realisation that we're not at big draw in this league, there's many teams bigger than us who have the budget to offer our better players a better deal, Byrne is a good defender and it'd be a kick between the legs if we sold him, Raj promised a playoff budget this season let's see what the squad looks like when the window closes and then decide if we want to hang Raj by his ankles.

The fact is apart from a short period of time pools have never been a big draw for any player out of the area. Regarded as a last chance saloon by some and i know one ex player who said to me when talking about pools, that although there are nice people up there they had not got enough money to make him sign for them and would rather go anywhere but us. Both Raj and Hartley have a job on their hands to sell the club to prospective players when they see present players making sideways moves for a few notes extra in their pay packets. The question would enter my mind would be whats the crack there.


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Probably will end up at Tranmere... didnt feature yesterday for long so makes sense.

if anyone watched yesterdays game you will have seen new signing Murray basically handle everything Hibs threw at him - given hes weeks away from actual match sharpness he looked very good to me - suspect there will be another CB through the door should Byrne leave.

Its the other end of the pitch that worries me the most. Finding at least an adequate CB is far easier than finding and signing a couple of goalscorers up front.


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Flying Hogans wrote:
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Have you noticed how all these players are going to teams who finished higher than Hartlepool last season?


clappp Great to see someone make an actual point for a change. Automatically talking down the ability of every player who leaves Pools this summer isn't particularly smart and always begs the question, 'How do you know the ones coming in are going to be better?'

Pools finished last season in relegation form but the same group of players exceeded all expectations in cup competitions. Pretending that players who are leaving are average or worse makes no sense when they are being cherry picked by League 2 rivals with deep pockets.

Like every other Pools fan I'll take it on trust that Paul Hartley knows what he wants and will produce a better side next season. Can only hope there's some exciting incomings just around the corner - lads who have played at a higher level than Pools are currently at.


Perhaps some Pools fans need to come to the realisation that we're not at big draw in this league, there's many teams bigger than us who have the budget to offer our better players a better deal, Byrne is a good defender and it'd be a kick between the legs if we sold him, Raj promised a playoff budget this season let's see what the squad looks like when the window closes and then decide if we want to hang Raj by his ankles.


Until someone comes up with the money to take over this club and spend, spend, spend, we’ve got to realise that we’re a middle of the road club who can’t compete with the flavour of the month clubs.
That is the harsh facts of life.
If Hartley wants Byrne he’ll stay but just suppose Byrne wants to be away for personal reasons, non money related. Why does the answer to everything have be get your hand in your pocket?
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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Another player leaving for a league 2 team. Doesn't take a genius to work out why.

Explain it then….?


Better wages.

Your answer to everything. You never see the biiiiiiiiiiig picture, just ‘better wages’ a nice short mantra.

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dogbrain.."I’ve long suspected it. Snowy is Raj Singh!"

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If Hartley wants Byrne he’ll stay but just suppose Byrne wants to be away for personal reasons, non money related. Why does the answer to everything have be get your hand in your pocket?
Financial advice from fiscal Pygmy’s

think in byrnes case if what i have read is correct is that he is getting married to a lass in the wirral area. Knowing how women can be home birds it could be personal decisions in his case. Unfortunetly in most instances moving clubs or jobs can be about a few extra quid in your pocket which most moves in my life as been about that. Thing is like it will be with players that the moves ended up being bad choices. You never know till you move if they will be or not and thats the problem. Even if a team or workmate has done the same move and did well its not to say you or they will.


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If Hartley wants Byrne he’ll stay but just suppose Byrne wants to be away for personal reasons, non money related.


Judging by what Neill Byrne tweeted just last month there's no reason to suppose that:

"First season back in the EFL complete. Enjoyed every minute of it, 2 brilliant cup runs and some great memories made. Thank you to the fans for there amazing support throughout, created some of the best atmospheres. rest up and enjoy the summer :grin: "

Mols and Timi Odusina made it clear they wanted to be away. Wouldn't be surprised if Omar Bogle hasn't settled. But if Neill Byrne goes that'll be the club's decision, not his.


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dogbreath..."I don’t think there’s a team in bigger transition than Pools in the whole EFL"

..read on...assume you are able to count ? :roll:

https://footballfragmento.wordpress.com ... mmer-2022/


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 Post subject: Re: Neil Byrne.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:38 am 
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poolie1 wrote:
dogbreath..."I don’t think there’s a team in bigger transition than Pools in the whole EFL"

..read on...assume you are able to count ? :roll:

https://footballfragmento.wordpress.com ... mmer-2022/

I can’t even take that ‘bigger transition’ comment seriously enough to do a micky take about it. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Neil Byrne.
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snowy.."I can’t even take that ‘bigger transition’ comment seriously enough to do a micky take about it"

..yep..i had to force myself..bit like the SQUAD stuff..you ok today hun ? :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Neil Byrne.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:57 am 
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billy..."Better wages"

...byrne has a year left on his contract..he goes only if hartley thinks hes shite ..has played a lot of his career in the north west..tranmere would suit..believe he has just got engaged to a lass from around there...for gods sake give the "cheap option" a rest and have a day off...just more of the "more money at shields"garbage again and again and again..from your club insider the "horses mouth"..talk about a broken record..ffs.. yawn1 :liar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nYxcmPu2RE


That's why we shop in the lower leagues in Scotland and our players head off to other clubs in our league. Wakey wakey.


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 Post subject: Re: Neil Byrne.
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
poolie1 wrote:
billy..."Better wages"

...byrne has a year left on his contract..he goes only if hartley thinks hes shite ..has played a lot of his career in the north west..tranmere would suit..believe he has just got engaged to a lass from around there...for gods sake give the "cheap option" a rest and have a day off...just more of the "more money at shields"garbage again and again and again..from your club insider the "horses mouth"..talk about a broken record..ffs.. yawn1 :liar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nYxcmPu2RE


That's why we shop in the lower leagues in Scotland and our players head off to other clubs in our league. Wakey wakey.


Are you frightened of change :scared-eek: … there, there.

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 Post subject: Re: Neil Byrne.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:58 pm 
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This Byrne thing sums it up nicely. According to the doom merchant’s MASTER PLAN X….

1. None of our players should have been allowed to go as they’re brill.

2. Money (not theirs) should be thrown with gay abandon to sign everyone that pops up, irregardless of cost.

3. We are recruiting Gaelic vagabonds to come and play for us, who’ve never seen a football in their life.

4.Er, that’s it?

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