Any sparky's on here???

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:54 pm

Hope so as thing thing has got me well and truly stumped banghead

Trying to put a bog standard ceiling rose up in the hallway. I removed the fancy light fitting which was there and now need to attach a normal ceiling rose.

The 3 grey cables are as follows (excuse my amateurish drawing sadx

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Any help gratefully received!

ps, there are 2 lights in the hallway and 2 switches (both trigger both lights)

Cheers

parmo · **Posted:** Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:13 pm

don't lick the wires whatever you do

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:14 pm

parmo wrote:

don't lick the wires whatever you do

now you tell me rage

Pierrepoint · **Joined:** Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:04 am **Posts:** 1723

put all the brown wires together
put all the blue wires together
connect the blue wire to the ceiling rose to the blue wires
connect the brown wire to the ceiling rose to the brown/black wire
switch on

call the fire brigade

no it should be right the black / brown wire should bre the return from your switch!

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 23000

Don't listen to him, he's a plumber!

You join the lot together then hold them as you switch on the mains.

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:03 am

Grave wrote:

Hope so as thing thing has got me well and truly stumped banghead

Trying to put a bog standard ceiling rose up in the hallway. I removed the fancy light fitting which was there and now need to attach a normal ceiling rose.

The 3 grey cables are as follows (excuse my amateurish drawing sadx

)

Any help gratefully received!

ps, there are 2 lights in the hallway and 2 switches (both trigger both lights)

Cheers

My girlfriends 2 year old nephew drew something like that for us that's on our fridge.

I'll ask him what you should do.

Compo · **Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:37 pm

How did you get on or has your house burnt down?

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:58 pm

You absolute pack of bounders. Funny but you are still bounders :laugh:

No, ive not burnt the house down (yet). Im reluctant to pay for a sparky when i just need to get the wires in the right way. banghead

I was sure there was a sparky on this board. sadx

6halves · **Joined:** Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:26 pm **Posts:** 748

i had the same problem,see if this link works
www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/diy/electric ... itting.htm

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:32 pm

Grave wrote:

:laugh:

You absolute pack of bounders. Funny but you are still bounders :laugh:

No, ive not burnt the house down (yet). Im reluctant to pay for a sparky when i just need to get the wires in the right way. banghead

I was sure there was a sparky on this board. sadx

Mr Offshore IS a sparky and DOES know what he's on about- follow his advice and you'll be ok.

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:46 pm

Mr Ripper wrote:

Grave wrote:

:laugh:

You absolute pack of bounders. Funny but you are still bounders :laugh:

No, ive not burnt the house down (yet). Im reluctant to pay for a sparky when i just need to get the wires in the right way. banghead

I was sure there was a sparky on this board. sadx

Mr Offshore IS a sparky and DOES know what he's on about- follow his advice and you'll be ok.

Cheers but by Offshore do you mean Pierrepoint?

Im not quite sure what to do with the grey wire (with blue sleeve) with his suggestion.

PoolieBarnes · **Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:14 pm

Is this any help . . . . . . . . . . . . . ?

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:44 pm

offshorepoolie wrote:

put it with the other blues (its really a blue) honest...

so - the brown with black sheath connects to the live wire of the bulb
- the neutral wire of the bulb will then connect to the 2 blue wires & grey/blue wire

The reason this seems wrong to me is that I assumed the grey wire with blue sheath is the neutral from the switch itself and a forum on the internet which I read yesterday said that the switch cable should never connect to neutral.

But i will trust you and go and try it now (in the dark :wink:

)

Hopefully I will return. :wink:

6halves · **Joined:** Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:26 pm **Posts:** 748

the black with the brown sheath is called a switch live and goes with the other brown wires

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:07 pm

6halves wrote:

the black with the brown sheath is called a switch live and goes with the other brown wires

and then the four of them all connect to the live wire of the bulb?

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:48 pm

offshorepoolie wrote:

Whatever........... grave, you didn't say wether it was two way switching or not .. if its two I still don't expect and competent electricain would've marked said cable as a neutral (blue) ... if you do find all your lights turn off this is probably case.. the short answer is if its anything other than a straight forward single pole job (ie on light one switch0 FFs get someone involved who knows what he's doing at the start!

None of the above methods work banghead

There are two switches and two bulbs in the hallway. each switch turns both bulbs on/off at the same time. Now however one of the bulbs wont light however i seem to connect it up. The switches both still work at turning on/off the working light.

It just doesnt make sense.

(ps, the bulb works before that gets suggested :wink:

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tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Pay someone to do it you cheapskate.

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:52 pm

offshorepoolie wrote:

Grave wrote:

6halves wrote:

the black with the brown sheath is called a switch live and goes with the other brown wires

and then the four of them all connect to the live wire of the bulb?

yh and the light will never switch off :grin:

ps, it still wouldnt even switch on this way! confised

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:16 pm

Lesson to anyone stupid enough to buy anything electrical from Wilkos. DONT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After spending hours trying to get the fecker working I decided to try a different light fitting (ie the two core wire with a bulb housing on the end)

The twat only went and worked.

Fecking WILKOS YOU COOOOONTS. So much for the friggin quality control sticker on the cooooont.

ps, the method of connecting it mentioned above worked fine ie. the grey wire was paired with the 2 blues and the black wire linked to the live wire of the bulb.

Happy but pissed off at the same time. Sort of like when both pools and the loids win on the same day.

Cheers for the help anyway fellas clappp

. I have the upstairs to tackle next so at least I should now know what im doing!! :grin:

6halves · **Joined:** Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:26 pm **Posts:** 748

just a thought you should take a picture on your mobile before dis-connecting the wires so then you can see where the wires go

Compo · **Posted:** Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:09 pm

6halves wrote:

just a thought you should take a picture on your mobile before dis-connecting the wires so then you can see where the wires go

Brilliant the easy solution to the problem, clappp

or simply grave remember which order they go in.

How is the upstairs going? I bet your missus loves you doing DIY.

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:09 pm

So in the end he got Mr.Ripper in to do it!!!! :shock:

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:23 pm

Compo wrote:

6halves wrote:

just a thought you should take a picture on your mobile before dis-connecting the wires so then you can see where the wires go

Brilliant the easy solution to the problem, clappp

or simply grave remember which order they go in.

The problem was I did make a mental note of how the wires were connected without actually taking a photo. when the thing wouldnt work despite connecting it the same way then i assumed i must have got my wires crossed (excuse the pun) and tried other ways.

as it turns out it was right in the first place BUT the replacement ceiling rose was faulty.

not tried the upstairs yet. cant be arsed!

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