Budget

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 11339

Been leaked the NMW is going up 4% to £13 an hour.
Non funded from the government but they will be expectingxtra taxes coming in.
Can see employers just cutting staff for the same workload output so they have to work faster/harder. Seen that happen in factory life.

Expect a mega rise in Food Inflation again.
But on the BBC website you Gunna be ok if you eat marmalade n gherkins.
Apparently £21 a year better off.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 41279

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Been leaked the NMW is going up 4% to £13 an hour.
Non funded from the government but they will be expectingxtra taxes coming in.
Can see employers just cutting staff for the same workload output so they have to work faster/harder. Seen that happen in factory life.

Ironic how the politicians with their bloated egos, are cockily telling us that they’re increasing the minimum wage, is bollocks.
They aren’t coughing up Jack shit, they’re just making the employers pay.
Politicians never lose face…..they all have two as standard.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 13412

Snowy wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Been leaked the NMW is going up 4% to £13 an hour.
Non funded from the government but they will be expectingxtra taxes coming in.
Can see employers just cutting staff for the same workload output so they have to work faster/harder. Seen that happen in factory life.

Ironic how the politicians with their bloated egos, are cockily telling us that they’re increasing the minimum wage, is bollocks.
They aren’t coughing up Jack shit, they’re just making the employers pay.
Politicians never lose face…..they all have two as standard.

And they rake in more tax and Nat Ins as a result.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 11339

derwent wrote:

Snowy wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Been leaked the NMW is going up 4% to £13 an hour.
Non funded from the government but they will be expectingxtra taxes coming in.
Can see employers just cutting staff for the same workload output so they have to work faster/harder. Seen that happen in factory life.

Ironic how the politicians with their bloated egos, are cockily telling us that they’re increasing the minimum wage, is bollocks.
They aren’t coughing up Jack shit, they’re just making the employers pay.
Politicians never lose face…..they all have two as standard.

And they rake in more tax and Nat Ins as a result.

They could rake in even more by getting these lazy bastads of massive benefits.
And make them work instead of the luxury life of shirking.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 41279

Funny part now is people are getting benefits without ever seeing a doctor, crazy.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 11339

If governments can freeze workers wages by freezi g the tax thresholds for 10 years.

They can freeze benefits for 10 years.

Like I previously said being unemployed in the 80's was fucking brutal.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 23486

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

If governments can freeze workers wages by freezi g the tax thresholds for 10 years.

They can freeze benefits for 10 years.

Like I previously said being unemployed in the 80's was fucking brutal.

but most unemployed back then where thatchers victims and not those who you think applied for unemployment and where succesful/

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 11339

Better than expected.
£100 energy winter payment
Gas Standing Charge to be scrapped sometime next year ( with plans to do the same further down the line wirh Leccy)
No vat on Leccy extended to July
Cash isa limit staying at 20k a year.

Not converting from Reform

Just stating better than expected for now but Inflation will likely wipe out any mini positives from April via higher shop prices and c tax nailed on up by 5%
UTR.

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2026 2:29 pm

£100 energy winter payment
- Only for those Band A - D.

Gas Standing Charge to be scrapped sometime next year ( with plans to do the same further down the line wirh Leccy)
- Will be added to the charge per unit used.

No vat on Leccy extended to July
- Big deal!

Cash isa limit staying at 20k a year.
- It should have increased due to inflation, as should the tax thresholds.

Infidel · **Joined:** Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:20 am **Posts:** 942

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

£100 energy winter payment
- Only for those Band A - D.
THIS IS OKAY/BETTER THAN NOTHING, AND MOST PEOPLE LIVE IN THESE BANDS.

Gas Standing Charge to be scrapped sometime next year ( with plans to do the same further down the line wirh Leccy)
- Will be added to the charge per unit used. MY GAS STANDING CHARGE IS .58p A DAY. THROUGH MOST OF THE SUMMER I BARELY USE ANY GAS AT ALL, SO PERSONALLY AS A LOW SUMMER USER I WELCOME THIS, OR THE OPTION TO HAVE IT.

No vat on Leccy extended to July
- Big deal!
BETTER THAN NOTHING. IVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY WE ARE TAXED ON A NECESSITY.

Cash isa limit staying at 20k a year.
- It should have increased due to inflation, as should the tax thresholds.

My replies above in capitals.

I agree re tax thresholds, this is the biggest ripoff of them all.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 11339

The gas standing charge is worded on the BBC website.
Will be scrapped in 2027(or as soon as possible after).

So maybe /probably 2028

Confirmed by Martin Lewis to be Oct 27 or Jan 28.

Some woman on the news saying January's expected gas/Leccy to rise by 16% while he says 26%.

So basically this £100 is fake/dead money

Also private renters are in for a major rise.

Anyone seen the latest Billy Moore YouTube video in Paris.
What a fcuken cesspit of scruffy migrants pissing shitting n masturbating on the streets.

And reckons it's all coming our way.

Anyone under 40 now basically has no future.
Sad but true.

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Posted:** Wed Oct 28, 2026 5:02 pm

24% tax on savings and for landlords income over the tax thresholds.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 4261

20% to 24%? ..fecking robbing folk to pay for the welfare of illegals and the work shy.again. The scum Party!

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22982

British military - £1bn
Ukrainian military +£10bn

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 11339

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

British military - £1bn
Ukrainian military +£10bn

We need to stop giving them our taxes then.

jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:07 am **Posts:** 2192

Interest on savings increased to 24% up from 20% in 2026/27 it’s not actually encouraging anyone to save money. You might as well spend, spend, spend that is if you have any spare cash.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 11339

jamie1952 wrote:

Interest on savings increased to 24% up from 20% in 2026/27 it’s not actually encouraging anyone to save money. You might as well spend, spend, spend that is if you have any spare cash.

They are doing all they can to end Early Retirement to keep taxes high.
But look after the non ambitious.
A dead country becoming to small for the illegal population which will lead to cesspit towns.
The real life videos are all on YouTube.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 41279

They’re looking after their prospective voters, it’s sooooo obvious.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 11339

The ammount of litter in our Hartlepool streets now is an absolute disgrace.
And now the council just leave it despite our extortion c tax rates.

Time to jail the litter louts and dog_shit owners who don't clean up.
Plenty of Cameras about.

Plenty of bagheads now got hard as fuck breed protection dogs
Hope they feed them properly otherwise they won't be fit for purpose.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 4261

Stealing their meagre pensions and savings is their 1st plan, whats next a the Logans run carousel for the over-65s.?

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 11339

Burnhams view on an election has gone down from 3 years to 1.

If Labour win a snap election they can rip up the current Manifesto and change Income Tax from 20p to 25p or even higher.

Just keep that in mind workers when the GE arrives.
UTR

Hartleblue · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2026 10:11 am

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

derwent wrote:

Snowy wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Been leaked the NMW is going up 4% to £13 an hour.
Non funded from the government but they will be expectingxtra taxes coming in.
Can see employers just cutting staff for the same workload output so they have to work faster/harder. Seen that happen in factory life.

Ironic how the politicians with their bloated egos, are cockily telling us that they’re increasing the minimum wage, is bollocks.
They aren’t coughing up Jack shit, they’re just making the employers pay.
Politicians never lose face…..they all have two as standard.

And they rake in more tax and Nat Ins as a result.

They could rake in even more by getting these lazy bastads of massive benefits.
And make them work instead of the luxury life of shirking.

Dead right! I believe if you have two arms and legs you should have to work for your benefits, there's plenty of streets need cleaning, parks to maintain, etc etc. Even if some firms took them on to learn a trade whilst receiving benefit money, then we would weed out the shirkers from the genuine people who want to work for a living.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 23486

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Burnhams view on an election has gone down from 3 years to 1.

If Labour win a snap election they can rip up the current Manifesto and change Income Tax from 20p to 25p or even higher.

Just keep that in mind workers when the GE arrives.
UTR

careful what you wish for. in 1979 under callighans leadership labour were steeling 33% off us basic and 60% for high earners.

jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:07 am **Posts:** 2192

The UK's overall tax burden has reached its highest level since the post-war era—projected to hit around 36.9% to 37.7% of GDP—not because peak income tax rates went up, but due to "fiscal drag" caused by frozen income tax thresholds.
No mention of the income tax threshold being raised or mention of the triple lock, looks like we are stuck with the threshold until to 2030, at the least it should have been increased for pensioners many who are falling into income tax threshold.

jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:07 am **Posts:** 2192

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Burnhams view on an election has gone down from 3 years to 1.

If Labour win a snap election they can rip up the current Manifesto and change Income Tax from 20p to 25p or even higher.

Just keep that in mind workers when the GE arrives.
UTR

The workers might be outnumbered by the shirkers including the ones in inwork benefits, like turkeys they are not going to vote for Christmas.

elwood · **Joined:** Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:31 pm **Posts:** 300

jamie1952 wrote:

Interest on savings increased to 24% up from 20% in 2026/27 it’s not actually encouraging anyone to save money. You might as well spend, spend, spend that is if you have any spare cash.

In Scotland, Higher tax rate comes in at £31,093 (£37,701 in the rest of the UK). At that point the Personal Savings Allowance drops to £500 and the tax to be paid on that savings interest will be 44%.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 6316

It seems to me that he's preparing for a snap election so that he can rip up the present manifesto, up taxes for everyone, and start the re-joining the EU process. As has been said in the media this was a very bland budget with the big sweetener for many of the £100, the raising of NMW which many will say is a good thing but it won't be for those who lose their jobs because of it, no pain for the benefit scroungers while not caring about pensioners because not many vote Labour.
These are very worrying times as the polls predict that he'd actually get a working majority for another 5 years if he called a GE today.

Infidel · **Joined:** Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:20 am **Posts:** 942

elwood wrote:

jamie1952 wrote:

Interest on savings increased to 24% up from 20% in 2026/27 it’s not actually encouraging anyone to save money. You might as well spend, spend, spend that is if you have any spare cash.

In Scotland, Higher tax rate comes in at £31,093 (£37,701 in the rest of the UK). At that point the Personal Savings Allowance drops to £500 and the tax to be paid on that savings interest will be 44%.

This is where ISAs come in. Stick your savings in an ISA and shield yourself from savings tax.

jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:07 am **Posts:** 2192

PTID wrote:

It seems to me that he's preparing for a snap election so that he can rip up the present manifesto, up taxes for everyone, and start the re-joining the EU process. As has been said in the media this was a very bland budget with the big sweetener for many of the £100, the raising of NMW which many will say is a good thing but it won't be for those who lose their jobs because of it, no pain for the benefit scroungers while not caring about pensioners because not many vote Labour.
These are very worrying times as the polls predict that he'd actually get a working majority for another 5 years if he called a GE today.

He can’t take the risk of calling an early G.E., there was nothing in the budget to encourage people to vote Labour, it could end up a coalition no idea who with though. Whilst he has a huge majority Burnham won’t call an election not unless support for the other parties collapses.

jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Oct 03, 2025 11:07 am **Posts:** 2192

Infidel wrote:

elwood wrote:

jamie1952 wrote:

Interest on savings increased to 24% up from 20% in 2026/27 it’s not actually encouraging anyone to save money. You might as well spend, spend, spend that is if you have any spare cash.

In Scotland, Higher tax rate comes in at £31,093 (£37,701 in the rest of the UK). At that point the Personal Savings Allowance drops to £500 and the tax to be paid on that savings interest will be 44%.

This is where ISAs come in. Stick your savings in an ISA and shield yourself from savings tax.

They scrapped the proposed cut to £10000 and kept it at £20000, bearing in mind who saves that much in year ?

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2026 3:59 pm

Not many Jamie, but those that could should not have been put in a position where they were only allowed to put 1/2 of what they were normally allowed.

Also discrimination shown by the Labour government to landlords who now have to pay 24% instead of 20%, what difference should it make where your income comes from.

And further discrimination to those that have a council tax band E or higher, no £100 help towards fuel costs!

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 41279

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

British military - £1bn
Ukrainian military +£10bn

One time NATO wouldn’t have got involved in this business at all, both sides had their zones of influence and kept their distance influenced no doubt by the thought of nuclear war.
Nowadays we have politicians openly talking of war with Russia..has the world gone mad…?

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 6316

Didn't this Chancellor resign the position of Defence Minister over insufficient spending on defence? Now he's delivered a budget that doesn't meet the governments own commitments. They've kicked almost everything down the road and will gauge public interest and likely voting patterns over the next few weeks and months. There's no way they're going the full 5 year term.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 11339

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

Not many Jamie, but those that could should not have been put in a position where they were only allowed to put 1/2 of what they were normally allowed.

Also discrimination shown by the Labour government to landlords who now have to pay 24% instead of 20%, what difference should it make where your income comes from.

And further discrimination to those that have a council tax band E or higher, no £100 help towards fuel costs!

Ive just checked your betting thread and you lost quite a lot on betting on Pools to win.
Never easy betting on Pools but good luck for the rest of the season.
UTP

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 13412

Burnham says he is going to cut the welfare bill eventually, Heeley says before the next parliament and that it will be done in a Labour way.
What is the betting that what they have got in their sights is the state pension as that is the largest part of the benefit system presently. We all know how the state pension and pensioners are their two big itches and they are itching to scratch those itches (no pun intended).
The non Labour vote has to be united to ensure they are not given the chance to do that or the chance to increase taxes and national insurance.
We can't afford to take the risk. Believe me.

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