The Poolie Bunker

Very interesting 42 minute Documentary here....

https://youtu.be/dMgr7nZ-eMA?si=6KjVelG ... urce=ZTQxO

I don't understand the question.

The UK population voted for it, and that is it.

End of.

And the vlog is the consequences of leaving the EU, obviously you never watched it.

And the vlog isn't skewed or biased either way?
The main problem has been created in our politicians being mainly remainders and doing everything in their power to prevent us leaving.
There would have probably been a better result if we'd done the cliff edge version.
Even now if commentators and politicians did their utmost to just get on with things than constantly reviving the argument we'd be in a better place.
F*cking Major, Maastricht should never have been signed without a referendum which would have certainly voted against joining the EU as full members instead of remaining as members of what was the Trading Bloc.
Remind us what the benefits of Brexit (not Common Market) actually were?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7cf92n ... debates.tv


Listen to this lady having a go at the EU,Jamie...is anybody even listening to her?

A question I have asked loads of times, what benefits have the U.K. had since Brexit, we left the biggest trading conglomerate on the planet, you can’t disagree how much food prices have gone up, U.K. citizens have to have visas to visit or work in EU countries, oh forgot you got your blue passport back. Pensioners who wanted to retire to the EU are now limited to 90 days at a time.
Ask all the musicians/performing artists the hoops they have to jump through to perform in the EU and the kids who want to study there ?

Some old bloke who lives half way round the world apparently, obsessed with the EU…….strange hobby.
Surely you’d be more interested in your new homeland far far away..
Puzzling that.

What was the % again.............................63%?

Some old bloke a U.K. citizen halfway round the world keeps asking you the benefits of Brexit but never gets a reply.

9 years ago, have another referendum and the result would be different, stopped freedom of movement resulting in increased immigration from countries outwith the EU, India etc.

Free trade with them came hand in hand with high contributions.Do you even look at employment figures and inflation levels in the EU?...the rest of your points mean jack shit to me..Musicians ..honestly.. And then there's the 100's of thousands we would be expected on the top of the boaties..

He’s obsessed…wonder why?

Who said I was a Uk citizen never assume.
Of course you don’t get a reply, courtesy is not your strongpoint so you are ignored.
You know ‘ignored’ what you do when asked ceratain questions…cause and effect.

If the E.U. is so wonderful why did almost 6million EU. citizens opt to stay in the UK

Good point…and why were the EU so desperate to get access for their under 30’s access to the Uk if it’s soooo bad.

Brexit didn’t shaft the farmers or fisherman.

Weak PMs and incompetent negotiating teams dictated to be faceless EU civil servants shafted all of us.

It was a daft thing to do leaving the EU. Just because the majority of people who bothered theory arses to vote, voted to leave doesn't make it the rocky decision. It's more a world where economic and military welly is king. We decided to go alone. Brilliant.

General Starmer's Coalition of the Willing?

Sounds better than the blue passport brigade.

How does Japan manage ‘alone’..?

Leaving wasn’t a mistake. Entrusting the implementation of Brexit into a bunch of people who didn’t want it definitely was.

Who says they're always going to manage?

Never ignored any questions from anyone Snowy, show me an example, you always keep coming up with the same excuses, top and bottom you can’t answer the question.

Mean jack shit because you don’t know, people want to live, attend universities and work in the EU, you need to broaden your outlook, there is a big wide world out there. If we had still been the EU the boaties could have sent back, check the number of boaties pre Brexit.

If we still were in the EU now we’d be liable to accept 100,000 refugees a year under the ‘sharing out scheme ‘…you keep that quiet.
But you are very selective.

Oh yes you do…or is it amnesia…your ability to try and bluff is of Goebbelesque proportions …..followed by the old ‘show me an example’ after which you just go silent…like a child playing hide and seek who closes their eyes and thinks because you can’t see anything others can’t…change the record.

Who says the EU is going to manage…there’s no certainty for anyone
A vote was taken, which surprised me, but a vote was taken and if anyone was too idle to vote shame on them and me, but it was taken.

If the vote had been to stay there’d be none of these conversations, it would be forgotten about.
But some people just can’t lose gracefully nowadays.
I might not agree with the vote but I expect the result to be accepted.

You know exactly what I'm on about with alliances.

Believe it or not I was aware the vote was taken. Thats a reason to shut down conversation? I think it is perhaps a sore area of discussion for people who wanted Brexit.

I think you’re over thinking this…a vote was taken …. Anything else is irrelevant.
The only bitterness, which I see, is the losers.

I think you don't want to think about it. Or talk about it. There are easier, less effort ways to do that which involve no typing.

We didn't get the Brexit that was promised because our leaders decided that the vote was not in our best interests and acted to dilute the process as much as possible, Starmer is still doing it FFS.
The electorates decision should have been implemented as promised and who knows where we'd be now if that had been delivered?
It's fair enough discussing the pros and cons of the version we got, but it doesn't make the outcome of the vote wrong. Surely the focus now should be on making the best of things, not constantly pining for the past. The EU for all it's might hasn't got a co-ordinated position and strategy for the war in next door neighbouring Ukraine, that to me says they should have stuck to the original trading group premise rather than the failing drive towards the United States of Europe.

It’s interesting that 9 years ago a fairly narrow win for Brexit is cited as you lost get over it, accept it move on the country has spoken.
Less than a year ago the fourth highest number of seats in history led to a Labour GE win, the outrage against them started within a week.
They’ve made a piss poor job of it at times and can’t see them getting in next time but the fact now people can sit on echo chamber social media sites has a lot to answer for.

Not pining for the past? It would obliterate a big wedge of discussion on here!

Teaming up is way forward to put it simply. World powers are flexing their muscles. European countries need to pool their power. Brexit is getting in the way of that. It was overall a bad move.

As I said, European countries can't even agree about a co-ordinated response to the war on their doorstep.
As a trading bloc the EU is indeed a mighty force, but otherwise and especially in defence they are minnows relying almost totally until very recently upon NATO and the USA.
If we are looking backwards, signing up to Maastricht was a disastrous move.

What is there to talk about…..I find it boring, simple as that.

From the man who lives on the other side on the other side of the world and says life is great over there…why your daily disturbing pedantic rant about the EU..?

As for loads of migrants from anywhere coming in ..it’s about time we tackled the outrageous number of people not working and got them earning their keep and we wouldn’t need them coming in…but are employers paying the minimum wage to these new workers.

The outrage had nothing to do with the size of the vote, the outrage started with a series of self inflicted cock ups…you’ve just admitted it yourself and conceded the point.
You voted Labour didn’t you…….buyers remorse…or discovering it was a ‘Labour Government Jim, but not as we know it’…..if you were expecting socialist policies you’ll have been sorely disappointed.

that about sums it up without being long winded. those who voted to leave did not get the brexit they wanted. remainers will always be remainers. would those who have voted to leave actually would have voted for a watered down brexit we got or would have abstained or voted to remain. personally i feel we ended up with the worst of both worlds.

Bit like a top end fashion store in Knightsbridge….. with no security guards.

I voted Labour for only the second time as I was fed up with the piss taking clown show the Conservatives had become, I think that went for a lot in the last election. The same conservatives are now berating Labour for not doing things they had 14 years to do, politics eh, dummy’s the lot of them.

I reckon they should unite as they’re like Siamese twins joined at the hip…I expected something different from Labour..and got something just as bad ….
ConLab has a certain ring to it …short for ‘Concocted in a Laboratory’…because they all act like robots.

That's my point. They won't be minnows if they unite. Brexit was not in the spirit of unification. Whether full fat Brexit or Brexit Lite , it ends up as a load of.... poo.

Basically that would be one European country, that would never work .
It might be a politicians wet dream but Europe is Europe because it’s so different, but similar,
I love Europe…I detest the wet political class who run the European Union …just like what we have running us now in this country….. idealistic gormless middle aged students in suits still wet behind the ears.

You'd think Norway, Iceland, and Switzerland would be banging the door down to join such a Utopian Union. Wonder why they're not?

Because they’re comfortably off that’s why and oddly like to preserve their national culture.

One of Thatchers biggest mistake was selling of North Sea Oil and Gas not like Norway, the U.K. buys gas from Norway now, who now have a sovereign wealth fund worth trillions.The U.K. could have re invested it in the infrastructure but it was squandered to pay for tax cuts.
The U.K. could have ended up a stand alone self governing country just like Norway, Iceland and Switzerland.

one european mainland country makes sense as all the borders are man made and have changed over the years. the UK and ireland are different propositions having a border called a sea if you take northern irelands man made border out of it. might seem like nothing being an island but it seems odd that island countries are different to mainland ones where there is no real physical difference going from one to another.

it does seem odd that the UK never gained riches from being an oil and gas supplier like other countries have. it feels as if that industry never existed for me.