First cousin marriages to be banned.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 41072

…under proposals to be put before Parliament.
I thought they already were.

Now I wonder why.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 23260

Snowy wrote:

…under proposals to be put before Parliament.
I thought they already were.

Now I wonder why.

there are going to be riots in norfolk over that.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 8809

Will Wales be exempt ?

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 4587

Grayhoundend wrote:

Will Wales be exempt ?

Depends if you have an interest in chemistry.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 4587

accrington fan wrote:

Snowy wrote:

…under proposals to be put before Parliament.
I thought they already were.

Now I wonder why.

there are going to be riots in norfolk over that.

Imagine the scenes in Bradford, Rotheram and Leicester? I shudder to think.

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:18 pm

Horden ?

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:36 pm

Nearly all of the traditional Hartlepool familes are related to each other.
Lots if inbreeding went on. Most families based in Hartlepool for a fair few generations are all linked to one family or the other.
Mind you, it will be the same in most towns so nowt to worry about, happened mainly in the past except the Royal Family who kept the tradition going for a lot longer and of course, these days with our foreign invaders!

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:38 pm

Marriage between cousins, even first cousins, has always been permitted, but marriage between in-laws (if a previous partner had died), who had no blood relationship, was not allowed. For example, until the law changed in 1907, a man was forbidden to marry his dead wife's sister.

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:41 pm

Rudy Giuliani, Edgar Allan Poe, H.G. Wells, Saddam Hussein, Charles Darwin, Albert Einstein, Jerry Lee Lewis, Greta Scacchi, Kevin Bacon, Jesse James, Queen Elizabeth II
All were guilty!

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 41072

You missed out Uncle Tom Cobbley…or was it Cobblers…?

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:01 pm

I thought you were Tom.

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:02 pm

Old Uncle Tom Cobleigh

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 23260

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

Marriage between cousins, even first cousins, has always been permitted, but marriage between in-laws (if a previous partner had died), who had no blood relationship, was not allowed. For example, until the law changed in 1907, a man was forbidden to marry his dead wife's sister.

wonder without the royal family the law might have been changed years back. Back in my teens i had a couple of real crackers as cousins but the thought of even asking them out never mind anything else never crossed my mind. Something i always thought was sick like incest in the closer family group. could appreciate my mates fancying my sister but the thought of me feeling like that would have sent me rushing for medical help.

loan_star · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:55 pm

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

Snowy wrote:

…under proposals to be put before Parliament.
I thought they already were.

Now I wonder why.

there are going to be riots in norfolk over that.

Imagine the scenes in Bradford, Rotheram and Leicester? I shudder to think.

The communities you are thinking of there will probably get some special dispensation as usual....

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 6542

Lizzie and Phil the Greek were third cousins. it was Victoria and Albert who were first cousins.

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:38 pm

Lass I was seeing in my teens had a baby to her cousin. Thing was me and her babysat him and his brother when they were toddlers!!!! BLURGH!!!! stpid

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 4587

loan_star wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

Snowy wrote:

…under proposals to be put before Parliament.
I thought they already were.

Now I wonder why.

there are going to be riots in norfolk over that.

Imagine the scenes in Bradford, Rotheram and Leicester? I shudder to think.

The communities you are thinking of there will probably get some special dispensation as usual....

Absolutely, yet it it is indeed that community which habitually marries relatives leading to a higher proportion of birth defects and congenital abnormalities than in the population of the country as a whole

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:02 pm

A cousin is not a Maharam according to their law.

And their Prophet married his cousin.

Interesting times ahead....!!!!

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 4587

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

A cousin is not a Maharam according to their law.

And their Prophet married his cousin.

Interesting times ahead....!!!!

No doubt Lord Ali will bung Starmer a few quid and the idea will be magically shelved.

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:14 pm

Isn't Ali gay, think he needs all the help for choice of who he can "marry".
Keep it in the family and all that! :laugh:

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 4587

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

Isn't Ali gay, think he needs all the help for choice of who he can "marry".
Keep it in the family and all that! :laugh:

Well, keep it under your hat, but some folks believe Starmer is gay. I mean, I guess you could put two and two together........

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:37 pm

Already out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCgXJiMloto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=X0lQ51V9-z4

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 41072

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

I thought you were Tom.

You ….’thought’….. clappp

keep it up.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 41072

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

Old Uncle Tom Cobleigh

It might be spelt that way in the knitting circle, but in our house I spell it how I liyk.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 41072

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

Isn't Ali gay, think he needs all the help for choice of who he can "marry".
Keep it in the family and all that! :laugh:

Well, keep it under your hat, but some folks believe Starmer is gay. I mean, I guess you could put two and two together........

And get 69.

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:19 pm

Snowy wrote:

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

I thought you were Tom.

You ….’thought’….. clappp

keep it up.

Red hair mate!!!
Over your head!!!! (Pun intended!)

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 41072

Don’t stop the medication :laugh:

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 41072

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

Nearly all of the traditional Hartlepool familes are related to each other.
Lots if inbreeding went on. Most families based in Hartlepool for a fair few generations are all linked to one family or the other.
Mind you, it will be the same in most towns so nowt to worry about, happened mainly in the past except the Royal Family who kept the tradition going for a lot longer and of course, these days with our foreign invaders!

Not necessarily in Hartlepool/ West Hartlepool’s case…3 out of 4 of my Grandparents all lived on and were born on the Town Wall…..two had Hartlepool surnames Hogg and Pounder but go back two generations and you find they came from Scotland or further north in England…one surname was Macternan which arrived in the 1860’s because West Hartlepool was a boom town…and they came down from Tyneside but had Irish origins.
Fact is about that time what seems so permanent now was a place on the move and expansion in industrial centres..even Hogg was Danish in origin….to my surprise,

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 23260

do not know how it could have happened but i,ve got more polish blood in my veins than most of the polish football squad. its bloody odd as without knowing i was drawn to poles and their international team and my first proper girl friend danuta had polish parents.

dstanley5 · **Joined:** Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:13 pm **Posts:** 537

The law cannot stop first cousins living together and having kids so what's the point?

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 4587

dstanley5 wrote:

The law cannot stop first cousins living together and having kids so what's the point?

I trend to agree. If they are going to do it, I doubt if the fear of a bit of community service willput them off.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 6542

accrington fan wrote:

do not know how it could have happened but i,ve got more polish blood in my veins than most of the polish football squad. its bloody odd as without knowing i was drawn to poles and their international team and my first proper girl friend danuta had polish parents.

Was she a blonde with big knockers

For some reason I always went for dark haired lasses who were a good laugh - every one of them turned out to be Catholics with Irish roots. And me C of E going on atheist...

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 23260

Flying Hogans wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

do not know how it could have happened but i,ve got more polish blood in my veins than most of the polish football squad. its bloody odd as without knowing i was drawn to poles and their international team and my first proper girl friend danuta had polish parents.

Was she a blonde with big knockers

For some reason I always went for dark haired lasses who were a good laugh - every one of them turned out to be Catholics with Irish roots. And me C of E going on atheist...

no dark with small ones. possibly one of the few catholics i have known who was an only child.

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