jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
Jamie, I never said say Labour would call an election, I said they should. I said the Tories should call an election 43 and one half times during their 14 year stint. Although a couple of my mates said it was more. You see during the time the Tories were in I was a fully paid up active member of the Labour Party. I changed my mind and cancelled my membership after the announcement of the WFA withdrawal. I am now partyless, a bit like you claim to be. The only party I have on my list under a definite 100% no no is Labour. I am not a fan of protests or marches, I prefer the ballot box which explains why my suggestion is they should call a General Election so the country can choose if they approve of their dismal effort to run the country or whether we should give someone else a go. I think Mr PTID gives a reasonable resume of their disastrous effort so far.
Hope my answer doesn't force you to walk on eggshells. But Hey whatever floats yer boat.
Thanks for the reply Derwent, I like you are partyless, I couldn’t vote for a centre right Labour Party, no idea as soon as they come to power they abolished WFA, what a crazy idea then use the excuse about a black hole. The Tories are in disarray but Reform is not the answer., who in the current Reform Party would fill their cabinet positions ? The Green Party are becoming popular with their new leader but I doubt they would command the votes of many with their green energy policies costing millions.
I have no idea who or what is the answer but your campaign against Farage, and let's face it it is a campaign, is a classic "barking up the wrong tree" campaign, simply because the reason the electorate is turning to Reform is the complete fuck up of this Government. The Tories drove a certain amount to Reform but Labour are driving a lot more to them. If Labour were doing well Reform would be somewhat subdued. So if you want to prevent Farage, campaign to stop Labour handing it on a plate for them.
I may be off beam but I think what will probably happen is you will find this campaign, not only by you obviously, against Farage will not protect Labour but will turn people back to the Tories, as the only viable alternative, fourteen year record or no fourteen year record. As a pensioner, mixing amongst people like me they are determined, aye in their droves to get rid of what they see as a menace and they are the ones who will spearhead the drive back to the Tories. The number of pensioners who regret either voting Reform, Labour or abstaining is growing and rapidly and they aim to put that right.
Calling an election right now maybe Labour's only chance, daft as that sounds but if you consider the campaign against Reform coupled with the Tories gaining their ground back the next GE will, as it stands, will be a wipeout for Labour.
So your campaign against Reform could bear fruit but not necessarily the fruit you desire. We might even get a coalition of both Reform and the Tories. We rule that out at our peril. The reality of what I say is staring us right between the eyes.