The Poolie Bunker

Aware social media is not fully representative of sentiment but it appears to be almost universally negative against Singh and his band of not so merry men.

I wonder if the wider fan base is more evenly split?--Ie will it get fairly mild by the time the season kicks off with fans willing to give it a go or do we think it's going to be severely toxic from day 1?

I appreciate moods can change, including mine, but right now it feels like a shitshow from day 1 scenario as oppose to, we got a couple of early wins lets see how it goes scenario..

I'd have a guess at 80% against raj at the moment, I understand people will want to go to games, that doesn't bother me. As long as there is a credible buyer there, which there obviously is , I can only see things getting worse the longer he drags it out.
I'm always predisposed to be optimistic about pools, it gets me through the shit, but this has just turned me and I'm figuring he will end up losing any good will he may have had.
I'm hoping it doesn't take a john smart moment to bring things to a head, where he got waylaid in his rolls royce after a game at halifax. I hope Raj and his 'yes sir' crowd decide to hand the baton on soon, before it gets really ugly.

63% it will be bad until xmas then it will turn around and we will miss out on relegation.

I actually think most people would prefer Singh to sell. Most of those voting Yes in the vote would have been doing so as it mentioned he was to fund while still looking to sell the club.

Unfortunately that vote seems to have caused most division. The yes voters who wanted to ensure the club survived as they feared Singh pulling the plug and the no voters who thought his bluff could have been called and blame the yes voters for giving him a reason to stay on.

This vote was was a lose lose situation for fans.

I think the only way Raj would have lost in that vote would have been no one voting at all, putting the ball back in his court. That was never going to happen though, and even it did the "new software" would have found it favoured him.

What a dismal prospect.

Me too i am a big fan of NLN and was looking forward to the away trip to Merthyr Town on a Tuesday night in January.

The way it seems to be pointing is that there will be anti Raj protests both home and away and he will throw his toys out of the pram a final time and as he did at Darlo demand his money back and ruin the club. If he thjnks the repercussions there were bad this could turn out a lot worse.

I can't believe that some think that vote was real and 63% voted for Raj.

Yeah fine. But you believe its OK to wank off a dog ? Even to believe its cool to come on here and brag about it and think it's funny.? Personally, I'll stick to believing in the silent majority, 63% or whatever it is, rather than the likes of someone like you pal

Oh dear, oh dear oh dear…it’s all rather obvious now…….the facade is falling away. In fact it’s so obvious it’s embarassing.

He's got a female dog so fuck off with the false accusations.

I'm guessing that the first home crowd of the season will be more than 63% of last seasons.

Pal?? What a Crank.

63% of what and what was the actual number of fans who voted that way. out of that number how many voted for him because they saw him as the best option to move the club on. i,d say very few, but you would get small number to vote on any issue at pools including food being all forest green.

"I'd have a guess at 80% against raj at the moment"

Don,t think is going to drop below that figure, Some think a few wins(if they happen) will make us forget.
You see the people in the background believe when Raj walks, Which he will then all will be forgiven, Cutely naive.

I'd say Raj out new owners in will be about 100%.
Raj out and admin or liquidation will be less than 20%.

So all Raj has to do to make people's arses fall out is to mention those words. Amazing.

You buying a season ticket will make no difference to Raj’s actions…he’ll do what he chooses…bleating won’t change a thing.

Thank God not everyone is so defeatist.

Some people feel Raj has them by the gonads over a season ticket, a bloody season ticket….hardly an act of reckless valour to delay buying one till the season begins.
Compliant people always have an excuse.

There is a division between those who want him to stay and those who want him to sell and bugger off. The latter group massively outnumbers the former.

There is a further division in the latter group, those that believe the best thing is to pay up, do nothing and just hope and those that believe that approach is ineffective and even counterproductive.

The latter group is all really on the same side despite the disagreements and I think thats the most important thing to remember. I have to administer a dose of that medicine to myself I know but I am trying.

Free thinking and action is not compliance. As I said it's likely 100% want him gone. Only a small percentage want him to go at the expense of our current league status.
There's no valour associated with buying STs or not imo, not is there in backing or not backing a boycott. We all act and decide in our own interests and beliefs.

Exactly.

Not so sure Admin means losing our Lge Status, If a buyer is waiting in the wings it may be a points reduction.
If Raj goes along with it, Him being the main creditor.

If we go into Admin with Raj in charge he'll f*ck is over for sure so it'll be liquidation unless he accepts whatever CVA the administrator proposes.

Freely complying. Just saying.

You’re paying the season ticket Danegeld in the hope it’ll make a difference…it won’t.
Talk of free choice is no such thing, the free choice of hanging on to what…I’d rather hang on to my dignity.
Sometimes you have to make a stand, it hurts, it’s uncomfortable and it’s a bloody risky, but so much more satisfying than being on your knees…fooling no one but yourself.

Of course there's free choices, go or boycott, pay on the day or ST, support a boycott or not, believe various party's or not, make a stand as you say or not (we all have our own views on what's acceptable or even tolerable), etc etc
Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean you've got the high ground and I'm on my knees, to suggest you do is fooling no one but yourself.

"seeing is believing"

He's not trying to take any high ground.

You don't want to make a stand I get it.

You believe that your course of action will preserve our current status in the fifth tier and thats more important to you than trying to put pressure on Raj. All fine.

Others think that your effort is ultimately futile and that he will run us down anyway. They believe that putting pressure on him is better than doing
nothing at all and just handing over money as per usual.

But at least you are on here talking to other Poolies. You'reaccepting the disagreement and hey, your toys are not out of the pram. Credit where credit is due.

You’re basically doing it out of fear or dread…..of possible consequences.
You have stated previously that if Pools toppled furthr down the leagues you would give up supporting them… a true fan wouldn’t think twice ..you stand by your club wherever it ends up.
So why this desperate act of deference to someone you say you don’t support …but in reality do in realty actually support….. not just financially but by committing to a ST, morally as well…you’re a believer..compromising can lead to some strange contortions of conscience.

The very fact that some would accept playing at a lower level would be a price worth paying to be Raj free shows how toxic the situation has become. I can't ever recall that scenario being acceptable to any Poolie.
I've taken a stand in that having taken advantage of the Early Bird ST discount for more years than I can remember I haven't bought one this time. Depending on comings and goings over the next 8 weeks or so I may not buy 1 at all, and I may decide I'm done and swerve games altogether.

I think that way too Snowy. For me it defies logic. Loving pools is more than the division they play in or whether or not they've had to start again but opinions eh? Who is right?

Snowy what act if deference are you talking about? You don't have a clue about my thought processes or motivations so why profess that you do?
As for supporting the club through thick and thin, how does a boycott work then? If we go bust then Pools don't exist so I won't be supporting a new entity as for me the new won't replace the old.
I've lived out of the town longer than I lived in it and there's closer options if I want to follow NLN or lower level football.

I have no idea of what your thoughts or emotions are and have no wish to…but I can go on your actions…….But I’m shocked by your casual reference to finding another team…..no one discards their team out of convenience…I overrated your loyalty, won’t make that mistake again….loyalty is not transferable.

Spot on my loyalty is to Pools, not "Phoenix Pools United".

You mean the same club..it’s not about the club, it’s about the status of the club isn’t it for you….?

Any chance of these playground games stopping? Jeez, we all have 'the love for Pools' in common.

There you go again assuming you know my thoughts, you don't. And it's 100% about the club for me.

And I've supported Pools from before I was born..................

Give over.

Very well said, whatever the division we are in the real poolies will be at the games and supporting. The clubs being held hostage and some people are fine with that sadly. ‘Happy’

I've met people for whom the bureaucracy is all important. It's very strange but it takes all sorts. Pools are Pools for me, paperwork is meaningless.

I’m surprised people have that opinion that they’d drop the club because it would be playing bishop Auckland and called Hartlepool town or whatever!
Rangers fans stuck by them and nearly won a European trophy! Not the same level, I know but you get what I mean.

Pools are Pools regardless of level at which they play.Amen.

Amen

When hartlepools united went to hartlepool united did everyone stop going? If we go bust and start again so what it's the same bloody town same fans same ground. We need this guy out of the club he is killing it. 10 players and were back in training soon it's fucking pathetic.

I suspect some loyal fans think it an abomination to sink too far down and jump ship…but that’s not what real fans do.

Each to their own.
But claiming to be a superfan of Pools under Sing in div 5 then 6.
But to then sack the club of altogether after A just Dosent add up to me.

I have a feeling these types of fans are few n far between and will seek back into the Vic when we rise back up the divisions.

As of today I'm a fully fledged boycotter under Sing and will never have a problem with that even if a minority of his arselicking crew do.
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