The Poolie Bunker

Funny how things move quickly in some cases and in another’s a blind eye appears to be conveniently turned.
Farmers tractors are to be banned from London, and drivers could be arrested if they drive in under the Public Order Act……wonder who thought that one up.
Some notable demo’s go on and on and nobody lifts a finger..

Can't arrest them all!!

Perhaps they should all jump in their Land Rover Defenders and block up "that London" with them.

I'm fed up with all the grandstanding here. It's a bit like the W.F.A.

The changes in themselves need a rethink, a tweak here and there - but this present government wish to prove how tough they are, "no means no" and all that.

No means No, Only to the people of the UK.

Yet immigrant's and Muslims can protest and rape young girls and Mr Starmer allows this to happen, being to busy flitting around the world upsetting people.

That'll they do crush the tractors then jail the farmers while crops and stock go intended and the country starves? So much for the right to protest and free speech, wasn't he telling Vance and Trump just a few days ago that free speech wasn't under threat in the UK?

Stick a Palestine flag von the front and they'll be given an escort

Funny but also True.

Mind you, When we put boots on the ground in Ukraine, I,m sure our Muslim contingent will be first in line.

Meaning…?

You cut short my post.

Meaning the government are grandstanding by bringing in excessive changes (WFA and farmers taxation) which many people believe need changes to make them fair.

The government won’t reconsider because they want the markets and others to think they’re tough.

I did cut it short because the final paragraph was of no relevance to me….a normal practice… …but I get the impression you approve the principle of Starmer’s general policy on WFA and farmer’s inheritance tax.

No I don't.

I think the richest pensioners shouldn't get WFA, some pensioners are wealthy and simply don't need it. I think there should be a simple means test set much higher than the pension credit thing we have now.

Re the farmers, I think the government have ballsed this up too. If they want to tax the very wealthy farmers who possibly use the buying of farms as a tax dodge, then surely they can do that without making the smaller family run farms have to sell land to make their IHT payments. Not only this, before the election I'm led to believe that they (Labour) said they had no plans to do anything like this. Leave the farmers alone, especially the smaller ones, I reckon they have enough problems as it is.

Getting back to my original post, the one you are questioning, I'm of the opinion that the government are refusing to reconsider or tweak these two recent policies because they wish to appear tough.

Osbourne scrapped his hot pie tax! What a stupid thing that was - but at least he was made to see sense.

Number plate recognition, they’ll send the summons through the post.

I queried it to confirm what you meant and you’ve cleared it up as sometimes a message can have two meanings…..I am in agreement about wealthy pensioners, but as usual the cost of administering it would swallow up the savings…don’t see it myself but wouldn’t be surprised if it did.
Same with the farmers, they could be sorted out easily but this rigid refusal to change by the so called ‘government’ is pathetic.

What for, parking up. This government can act astonishingly quickly when it suits them and act like prat’s when it can’t.

and a banner on the back saying refugees are welcome and they,ll get free food and drink. in 2025 you can have free speech as long as its to underline the present topics the rulers are pushing. there was something yesterday that was on in the background about the police still looking for people after the southport riots that were described as violent and disgusting. suppose the other side were having an outdoor tea party in leeds only a few days before but guess what that all went quiet over there.

The inheritance tax only effects a small number of farmers (Clarkson etc) so this is just a political demo orchestrated by right wing Tory shire supporters.

If it’s only a handful, there’ll only be a handful ‘demonstrating’…….
Starmer’s people also stated a quarter of pensioners were millionaires, you can’t take them seriously…

Racist comment ?

And highlighted by the right wing media, the more important issue is how many people fall into the inheritance tax trap through the value of their property increasing over the years.

No it isn’t…. seek help.

No, I don't think you're right. Clarkson and the like will have expensive lawyers to draw up contingency plans. By the time this change comes in they will have it sorted. Putting the farm into a trust or signing it over to children etc. Incidentally the farm that Clarkson has (although very big) isn't really a proper farm is it! He milks it for his TV shows and books, meaning that if he did get caught out by IHT you could see the point of the changes.

It's the little farms that are getting hit. There's a lot of them. Just normal type people who may have assets in land and machinery but don't make much money and just plod on trying to keep the family farm going. That's why there's so many smaller farmers demonstrating - they wouldn't be up in arms if it was just the Clarkson's of this world taking a hit.

Where I live there a lots of little farms. They are struggling at present, losing money in fact, I know this because I occasionally talk to them.

At present, if they ship out (sell up) be it to a building firm or similar they get clobbered for tax and rightly so. It's the easy option I suppose, but don't we want these farms to survive? So we (as in we the country) keep the land as agricultural land or to keep it in the hands of the generational farmer and not get swallowed up by BIG FARMER, as in the rich get richer and everyone else can f*ck off.

Paul Johnson, Director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS), says: "What the budget did was reduce the amount of additional relief that farmers get on agricultural land.

"It still means they'll be significantly more generously treated than the rest of us and still more generously treated actually, than farms used to be in decades past.

"The changes will affect actually a remarkably small number of some of the most valuable farms. The majority will still not be affected by this."

Some random bloke on the bunker knows more than Paul Johnson about it though Bluestreak.

The only people who’ll profit is the big land owners.