The Poolie Bunker

and how did you think your superior team of Norwich City did against humble little Artlepool?

I thought CanaryYellow would have at least said Hello!!

Hmm. Ignoramus.

Hi everyone,

Sorry, I registered earlier but had difficulty replying from my iPhone so had to wait until I got in.

I was impressed by Hartlepool, although not surprised, I've been impressed by a number of teams that have come to Carrow Road this season. I think since our first game of the season, us Norwich fans tend not to take anything for granted and make no assumptions about the result!

Ultimately though, the game is about results, and I think all any Norwich fan will remember from today is that we got another vital 3 points. We had a number of seasons in the champ/prem where we were "plucky" Norwich, it's frustrating stuff and you get bored of it eventually. That said, good performances albeit defeats kept me going to watch City for years!

With regard to the ticketing situation. I have a lot of sympathy for any of the Pool fans that made the journey only to not get in. To give you some background, we allocate up to 2,000 seats to away fans but whatever the away team tells us they want they pay for up front. This is because if there are empty seats we lose money as demand for seats in the home end outstrips supply. On this basis, Hartlepool ticket office only asked for 450 tickets, and that is why you had 450.

I think the problem arises because of a difference in culture between Pool and City, our fans always buy tickets in advance whereas Pool fans I guess are used to being able to pay on the day. We had a similar thing with Brentford last week, albeit their ticket office publicised the fact that there were only 900 tickets available the day before the game and advised advanced purchase.

HUFC in another fuck up shocker!!!

Hiya Canary, sorry i called ya ignoramus.

Why on earth is it Norwich's responsiblility to tell your fans how many tickets your club has requested??!

The blame lies with HUFC for not communicating this to your fans. In any case, why on earth travel all that way without a ticket? Not difficult just to buy one in advance is it?

It's not Norwichs fault, the blame lies with the useless inept fookwits running the admin at HUFC, the same fookwits who close the ticket office on a Saturday (most peoples only available day to buy a ticket). Useless twats

Sorry but thats utter rubbish.

We requested 450 tickets, whether its all ticket or not is irrelevant. Its OUR websites job to inform OUR fans of anything to do with OUR club! Or are you suggesting we check the oppositions websites before each game?

It's silly because it was so avoidable. If a message had been stuck on your website then there wouldn't have been a problem at all.

I hope everyone that went had a good day (obviously those that didn't get in won't have done) I like to think that Norwich make away fans very welcome.

We most certainly didn't play well today, but, we're in the business of getting out of this league and today was a step in the right direction!

You should be ok to avoid relegation. If you don't it will be only because you don't apply yourself properly. That is what happened to us last season, no way we had the 3rd worst players but they played like a bunch of prats. My prediction for you is around 13th.

Good luck! I think you'll be ok, I know you're not happy with Turner, tactics wise he impressed me today though, had we not equalised straight away I'm sure you would have got at least a point.

At the end of the day someone - either Norwich or Pools should have mentioned the restriction. It appears at least one club has failed to do this.

You clearly don't go to away games (hardly surprising). If I am going to an away game then of course I check with that club before I travel to see if, among other things, I need a sodding ticket or not.[/quote]


But it wasnt all ticket as you said. Norwichs website could have had a message on saying they would only let 450 in yes but our site SHOULD 100% have made it public. Its what its there for - to inform people is it not?

You clearly don't go to away games (hardly surprising). If I am going to an away game then of course I check with that club before I travel to see if, among other things, I need a sodding ticket or not.[/quote]

I'm not quite sure I follow your point, wouldn't the first point of contact be the HUFC ticket office? Also, are you saying the NCFC ticket office mislead Pool fans? If that's the case then I agree they have grounds for complaint, I think that is unlikely however.

I have never contacted an opposing teams ticket office for info on tickets that my club are responsible for.

I must remember next time we have a good away tie in the FA cup to get all details about buying tickets from THEIR official site as its them hosting the game so therefore HUFC shouldnt give any details.

Got nothing to do with knocking the club or being "fashionable". Truth is, the match wasn't all ticket and we (pools) only asked for 450 tickets, knowing it may be limited and there may be problems. maybe pools should have said away fans need tickets and found out how many they were going to sell and asked for more if necessary. The organasiation at pools never ceases to amaze me.

I didn't travel to Norwich but as I understand it every Pools fan set off this morning unaware of a restricted allowance of away fans into the ground. There was no prior notification on the Pools or Norwich website.

In my opinion it seems Norwich have been taken by surprise at the home demand for entry and have just said "f*** Pools fans - first come first served and sod the rest".

That's incorrect.

Hartlepool requested 450 tickets and 450 tickets is what you got. How have Norwich said "F*** pools fans"?

The tickets being "restricted" as you put it is a product of your ticket office only requesting 450 tickets.

Mad John - it's not Norwich's responsibility to inform you of how many tickets your club have requested.

Ultimately, HUFC ticket office communication has been poor and there is a difference in culture here. City fans wouldn't travel without either a ticket, or confirmation that tickets were available on the day, describing a game as all ticket wouldn't influence that fact.

Explain what you mean by that please. Your point is as clear as mud.

As my first paragraph states there was no info from either club regarding the allocation. Where did you get your info from that we were only allowed 450 places?

You may be right that it is HUFC at fault but there appears to be no prior evidence that Norwich allocated only this number of places. After all you have a big ground. We don't hold anywhere near your capacity can accomodate twice as many away fans for any game.

The process for agreeing allocations with away teams is well known amongst Norwich fans and it is as I've stated it to be.

There wouldn't be any statement from Norwich on this matter, we've given you what you asked for.

We can accomodate up to 2,500 away fans if that many tickets are requested. However, only a couple of teams have brought that many so far (Col U and Charlton).

It doesn't make sense for us to allocate 2500 tickets to away fans if only 500 are going to turn up. That would cost us 2000 x £18 per match which is a lot per season.

What? Tree is absolutely correct.

Why is MadJohn being a dick over this?

Why dont we just wait until the club makes an announcement as to what went wrong instead of pinning the blame on the easiest target

Exactly.

At the moment we've only got some random yokel's word for it that Pools asked for 450 tickets and that the numbers were agreed in advance between the two clubs. For all we know that might be complete toss and HUFC weren't party to any such agreement hence the reason why there was no warning to buy tickets in advance.

Pools MUST make some kind of statement on this if fans were locked out of a super-size ground with no prior warning of a restricted allocation or advice to buy tickets in advance.

Somebody has cocked up big style, who (Pools or the yokel chicken fkers) is still subject to debate until the facts are known.

Whilst the point you're making is fair, the ad hominem attacks are embarrassing.

Is there an ecco in here?

Yokel chicken fckers 4-1 Hartlepool

You just look silly throwing insults around when we've beaten you twice this season.

Plus, I'm a Londoner, so I think that would make you considerably more 'yokel' than I am.

What I've said about ticketing arrangements is correct, get over it. Why would I make it up?

I apologise for the behaviour of my fellow fans. We're not all like this, but, there again, not all of us continue to live in the town.

I think I'll leave you chaps to it. It seems opposition fans opinions aren't welcome.

The final thing I have to say is well done to pools for coming to Norwich and having a damn good go at winning. Too many teams cone and try and defend from the word go. Even when we don't play well we possess a potent threat up front, and ultimately that was all the difference was yesterday but it's why we're top of the league.

I don't think turners as bad as you think, we've had much worse in the last few years, but there's definitely a problem if the relationship between him and the fans has broken down.

Come on over to http://www.pinkun.com if you'd like to discuss the game, decent opposition fans are always welcome.

Another new board member from a league one rival made to feel welcome! Guessing he won't be back and can't blame him. This board is the pits sometimes.

Plenty of people moaning about Pools ticket office and arrangements. Well if they have been reading this board over the last couple of weeks then they would be under the impression that no bugger is going to games anymore anyway.

That being the case then why bother opening the ticket office on non home match days and why tell Norwich we'll have a thousand fans going when general consensus says not??

You all want to moan and say ur not going anymore and then have the cheek to slag the club off for not being able to get a ticket for a game "your not going to".

Sometimes we reap what we sow.

I don't think Norwich fans need to know about the ticketing arrangements for away fans

As for the ticketing arrangement, I don't know if you've made it up but equally, unless you're Delia fkin Smith then I am doubting whether or not you know it to be true or if some bloke in the pub told you so.

You've beaten the mighty Hartlepool twice this season? Yuppy do for you, I hope you're not so pleased with yourself that the chicken gets it so hard that it splits, you one-eyed cockerney chicken rapist.

Exactly - it's a courtesy. Not an onus, morally or otherwise. There's lots of things that would be a courtesy for home clubs to do for away fans but there should be no expectancy that they should do them.

I would go to the Norwich website for information if I wanted information on tickets for the home end. I would expect the away team to advise their fans of ticketing details for their supporters. If they were competent, that is.

why? I don't think it does.

Perhaps he could have phrased it better but the apology was perfectly in order.

Sorry, that's not how it was meant to come across.

My point was that calling people chicken fucker and yokel, is not something that you'd expect from people that have lived/do live outside of Hartlepool and the north-east. If you don't find people using such words embarrassing, then don't shout them down.

Oh, you didn't.

I was not aware of the rules of reverence for specific Bunkerites regardless of whether their outbursts are rational or not.

Is it on the Bunker's Customer Charter?

On a more philosophical note...............


HOW SHITS THIS BOARD GETTING!!!!????

At least the debate over the Norwich away end has taken some of the heat off Chris Turner.

There'll be more heat off when we stuff Leeds next week.

aye but you are talking about the lads in the boozer. What about the teams on the pitch?

Only until it is announced that it's his fault.

Never

Try opening your eyes because i said it wasnt all ticket!

Surely, by implication, if a match isn't 'all ticket', then tickets are available.

I read this board a lot more than I post.

This board is now officially sh!te.

The previous pathetic, insulting, disgusting post by the person known as Mr Ripper (what does his selection of board name tell you about his personality?) nails it.

There's quite a few ways of splitting hairs, but the Bunker finds at least three new ways every day

How can it have been Norwich's fault? If HUFC knew we only had 450 tickets allocated then surely they could have posted it on their website and maybe even communicated it along with Turner's attacks on the fans in the Hartlepool fail.

Yes the away end did have spare seats near the segregation and the covered seats did not help, but why the fuck would you travel 300 miles to a game without a ticket? More pressingly why would you go with no ticket and wait in the pub until the last second to try and get in?

Possibly the term "blind faith" would answer your question?

You're a bundle of joy aren't you.

I can only assume that you either don't know any of the folk locked out or don't care that they were, and think that it's big and clever for some rarf from Norwich to come on here saying that it's their own fault and as far as Norwich are concerned they and we can all go and get fked.

Fair play to you for having that attitude, personally I think it stinks.


Unohoo? What the fk is unohoo meant to mean? You know who?