The Poolie Bunker

Ukraine are going to get shafted by Trump, his idea of a cease fire won’t be of any benefit to the Ukrainians.

List the benefits then, ending freedom of movement, all that did was create job shortages in the Care Sector and the Hospitality industry as the EU citizens had to return home as they requred visas. Some of these vacancies were filled by the half a million people granted visas in 2023.

Here are some of the non benefits, ask the farmers and the fishermen as they have to employ vets to inspect their produce before it can be exported to the EU, the paperwork required entering or leaving the U.K. by lorry drivers. Kids can no longer study in EU countries even musicians need a visa now.

Any one going on holiday in the EU will have to complete an European Travel Information and Authorisation System (ETIAS) online before travelling starting in May cost €7 per person.

I await a fiurther list of benefits, oh forgot we got our blue passports back which are printed in Poland.[/quote]

Man who lives in Thailand worried sick about the Uk leaving EU. Very odd…..I think you don’t live in the far east at all, but the Far East of Brussels…..
What pay grade are you on in Brussels and when you’re in London in your blue suit outside Parliament is that a second pay rate and or do you do it for nowt.[/quote]

I don’t live in Thailand but even if I did I am entitled to an opinion Snowy, I am a British citizen.[/quote]

So did you dream it.

Yes you are entitled to an opinion.
So am I…get used to it.[/quote]

Still waiting for you to answer the benefits about Brexit after becoming involved in the conversation Snowy, if you can’t don’t make snidely comments about me.[/quote]
Have you not twigged on yet that I don’t give a flying fuck about your tedious catalogue of the ‘benefits’ of the Euro Club……it may arouse you, but anyone who fails to accept a result is just a whining bore in my world.
I thought we were robbed at Cardiff, but by the time I got on the road out of Cardiff my bitching was over…to you the referendum is an itchy sore…so stop scratching or it’ll never get better….any way your leader will have us back in as soon as possible.[/quote]

Not whining just looking for facts but as usual Snowy you deviate from the subject, you would have made a great politician, btw he is not my leader as I keep saying.

You’re like one of those Japanese soldiers in the Phillipines who didn’t surrender at the end of the war and kept on fighting even though they ended up with raggy beards and dressed in rags and couldn’t accept defeat.
All they got was ….nothing, the world had moved on.
Every post is just another Banzai charge at shadows that weren’t there.
Sad really …ever thought of getting an hobby….

But I'm not wrong am I, we delivered the vaccine to citizens before the EU and we had proportionally more to use because we didn't have to share our home made supplies.
There was a slight delay to getting supplies to NI because of EU bans which were imposed maliciously by our friends across the water.

Not because we were not in the EU, the U.K. delivered it faster because it was developed faster. There were no restrictions on development or dispensing it but Johnson and Mogg who also said we can look to cheaper food prices when we leave the EU, have you noticed a reduction in your weekly shop ?

Don’t encourage him, the nurses have to double his tranquillisers if anyone mention the ‘B’ word…..

I will always keep reminding you Snowy whilst in the short term it won’t affect you in your life time but it might your kids when they want to work or travel within the EU,
My hobby is winding you up Snowy, love it, you usually answer I don’t give a flying f**** when you are stuck for a reply or just give me some verbal abuse.

Husssssh..you’re frightening the other residents……there, there.

Love it Snowy, your like a woman always having to have the last word.

Do you have a problem with women having the last word…..?

I will always keep reminding you Snowy whilst in the short term it won’t affect you in your life time but it might your kids when they want to work or travel within the EU,
My hobby is winding you up Snowy, love it, you usually answer I don’t give a flying f**** when you are stuck for a reply or just give me some verbal abuse.[/quote]
since when was being in the EU the only way you can live, work or travel in europe. its been going on for as long as i can remember. at least then the europeans and us got the workers they wanted and not ones forced on them.

The UK started mass vaccination before the EU absolute and indisputable fact! The EU wouldn't allow individual countries to start vaccinations independently because they wanted to portray a togetherness so roll out across the EU was later than us, another absolute indisputable fact.
The EU was responsible for the distribution throughout the 27 of available supply, that was lower than the UK per capita so we were vacci eating at a much faster rate, absolute and indisputable fact.
Kate Bingham managed to procure more doses for the UK because she was allowed to deal and trade on UK terms, not the EU terms which were delayed over arguing over price and liability in the case of the vaccine causing harm.
We all know there's pros and cons from leaving the EU, but our mass vaccination programme was recognised both here and throughout the EU as being a pro for us. But obviously not for Jamie who was probably in Thailand!

rightly or wrongly i got the impression at the time of the whole thing being a race to get the first ones out for a bit of one upmanship from johnson.

Maybe so but the facts remain.

What fact remains ok we had the fastest roll out but nothing to do with out being a member of the EU.
Anyway I am still waiting for your lengthy list of the benefits of leaving the EU as you inferred originally.

Well?

No but they always like to think they are in control, nothing worse than a woman boss.

Can you not read?
EU started later than we did because they wanted coordinated EU wide commencement of the vaccine programme. Therefore being outside the EU meant we could go early.
Being able to deal on our own rather than at the EUs pace meant we bought more and faster which meant our vaccination rate was faster than the EU.
Being on our own meant we didn't have to share limited doses with the other 27.
Surely it's starting to become clear enough now I've explained it twice?
Our vaccine performance was even declared "the best advert for Brexit" by some of the European press.
Whatever was "inferred" as opposed to stated within my posts is entirely a figment of your own one-track mind I'm afraid.

The irony, trumpeting a man who doesn't believe COVID was a thing then trying to use it to prove a point themselves. Think there is a hint a desperation in the hunt for Brexit justification. Don't even want to take the lid off the fishing quota debacle, that's really going to ruin your day.

But I'm not trumpeting his response to Covid am I?
And as I've said on more than one occasion there's pros and cons to Brexit, I accept that. It seems that the Remainers like to steadfastly dispute any real pros.

I will stick with what I already said, you sound like a little Englander like 30p Lee Anderson who said we have our country back whilst brandishing his new blue passport forgetting as I said before they are printed in Poland.

But you do accept that there were and and are some benefits, or is the earth still flat in your world?

there would be benefits and the opposite if brexit had been the one most people wanted that voted that way and not the watered down version we got. its not all black or white but mainly grey and depends on your own points of view. a benefit to one man is a detriment to another.

I suspect the EU might have been a lot more viable if they’d stuck to the original membership instead of continually expanding and bringing in the lame ducks and basket cases.
Just a thought.

[quote="Snowy"]I suspect the EU might have been a lot more viable if they’d stuck to the original membership instead of continually expanding and bringing in the lame ducks and basket cases.
Just a thought.[/quote

And keeping it to a trading agreement.....the Common Market, as was promised when we first voted to take part.

Looking at the fragmented responses from across the EU to the possibility of having to provide for security in the near future, it's clear that they should have just remained a trading club rather than a dis-united Union.

Exactly.