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 Post subject: Takeover Rumours
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 2:53 pm 
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...seems a few bubbling under the surface.....lets share what we know/think we know

I will start


Fuck All (and not just on the takeover etc.. to beat Snowy to it !)


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Well I know the square root of what you know.


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Just stuff from the other message board. Saying Raj will stay on with 5% share. An American and a woman from the town is the rumour. There’s been dozens of rumours in last year or so but nothing ever happens. Hopefully this one is real aslong as they are in it for the right reasons.


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loyal_fan wrote:
...seems a few bubbling under the surface.....lets share what we know/think we know

I will start


Fuck All (and not just on the takeover etc.. to beat Snowy to it !)

Such a pessimistic outlook ..be like me and hope for one….chill :character-blues:
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Well I know the square root of what you know.

Multiply it by atmospheric pressure (14.7 psi) divide it by Mach 1 and you’re near where I am..up a gum tree :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 4:01 pm 
It’s 99% done and dusted,Singh has demanded something else at the last second again.

The Women tried to buy West Ham a few years ago and is Minted.

Properly minted and is from the Town.

And has 16 million to spend getting us to the Championship.


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It’s 99% done and dusted,Singh has demanded something else at the last second again.

The Women tried to buy West Ham a few years ago and is Minted.

Properly minted and is from the Town.

And has 16 million to spend getting us to the Championship.


What is this "properly minted" of which you talk?

Does it equate to "worth a few bob" or "has some clout" type expressions?

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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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Porter and Boyd wrote:
It’s 99% done and dusted,Singh has demanded something else at the last second again.


Which immediately makes it sound like its miles off?


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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 4:17 pm 
Well West Ham wouldn’t have been cheap would it? Type of minted.


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I heard Raj had demanded a years supply of Cadburys cream eggs at the last minute..

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Well West Ham wouldn’t have been cheap would it? Type of minted.


Depends what the offer was I suppose, if I offer West Ham £475.34 for their club and they turn it down does that make me "minted"? :shifty:

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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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Porter and Boyd wrote:
It’s 99% done and dusted,Singh has demanded something else at the last second again.

The Women tried to buy West Ham a few years ago and is Minted.

Properly minted and is from the Town.

And has 16 million to spend getting us to the Championship.



Your record for rumours is probably the worst ever on here. :wink: So based on your normal bullshit no takeover is imminent. :wink: Infact Pools don't even exist in real life :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Porter and Boyd wrote:
Well West Ham wouldn’t have been cheap would it? Type of minted.


Depends what the offer was I suppose, if I offer West Ham £475.34 for their club and they turn it down does that make me "minted"? :shifty:


It depends. If you walk into The Owton Manor social club with that amount of money, skid row will declare you minted.

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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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Porter and Boyd wrote:
It’s 99% done and dusted,Singh has demanded something else at the last second again.

The Women tried to buy West Ham a few years ago and is Minted.

Properly minted and is from the Town.

And has 16 million to spend getting us to the Championship.


If it’s the woman who tried to buy West a ham, that means she’s known, so what’s her name…?
You’ve already indicated who the
woman is, just give us a name…?
I’m waiting :angry-tappingfoot:

Ok what have you been sniffing now…out on the Biffo gas? :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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Snowy wrote:
Porter and Boyd wrote:
It’s 99% done and dusted,Singh has demanded something else at the last second again.

The Women tried to buy West Ham a few years ago and is Minted.

Properly minted and is from the Town.

And has 16 million to spend getting us to the Championship.


If it’s the woman who tried to buy West a ham, that means she’s known, so what’s her name…?
You’ve already indicated who the
woman is, just give us a name…?
I’m waiting :angry-tappingfoot:

Ok what have you been sniffing now…out on the Biffo gas? :laugh:


I reckon he is insinuating it's the massive 110 million ? euro lottery winner. She apparently lives in Wynyard sctatchinghead She has already donated to rugby in the town I believe. I see no reason why she would invest in Pools sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 5:49 pm 
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Porter’s porter wrote:
Just stuff from the other message board. Saying Raj will stay on with 5% share. An American and a woman from the town is the rumour. There’s been dozens of rumours in last year or so but nothing ever happens. Hopefully this one is real aslong as they are in it for the right reasons.


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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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Her name is A.Doris

Raj has asked for some log effect wallpaper to go round his fireplace.


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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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I would love one of the many rumours to be true but common sense tells me nobody on this site has a scooby doo. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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Me being stupid, I googled "west ham" take overs, Guess what.

Fecking nowt about a bewer from the Town, Only A-Rabs.


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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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The West Ham thing was Nasib Piriyev who heads an international investment firm who a lady from Hartlepool works for. The rumour about her heading a takeover has been around for months in various forms so let’s wait and see


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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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Krampesh wrote:
The West Ham thing was Nasib Piriyev who heads an international investment firm who a lady from Hartlepool works for. The rumour about her heading a takeover has been around for months in various forms so let’s wait and see


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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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Leggie43 wrote:
Porter and Boyd wrote:
It’s 99% done and dusted,Singh has demanded something else at the last second again.

The Women tried to buy West Ham a few years ago and is Minted.

Properly minted and is from the Town.

And has 16 million to spend getting us to the Championship.



Your record for rumours is probably the worst ever on here. :wink: So based on your normal bullshit no takeover is imminent. :wink: Infact Pools don't even exist in real life :laugh:


Spot on Leggie- was it last time or the time before that he guaranteed us that Hollywood's Will Farrell was buying the club - he's delusional, another rogue mackem on the wind up.


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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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Kettering Poolie wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
Porter and Boyd wrote:
It’s 99% done and dusted,Singh has demanded something else at the last second again.

The Women tried to buy West Ham a few years ago and is Minted.

Properly minted and is from the Town.

And has 16 million to spend getting us to the Championship.



Your record for rumours is probably the worst ever on here. :wink: So based on your normal bullshit no takeover is imminent. :wink: Infact Pools don't even exist in real life :laugh:


Spot on Leggie- was it last time or the time before that he guaranteed us that Hollywood's Will Farrell was buying the club - he's delusional, another rogue mackem on the wind up.



Agree Kettering just a shame these types who it's obvious to most have no football input at all just shit are even allowed on here in the first place. banghead I am not against stopping others supporters on here but people like him should be blocked in my humble opinion. banghead


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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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Leggie43 wrote:
Kettering Poolie wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
Porter and Boyd wrote:
It’s 99% done and dusted,Singh has demanded something else at the last second again.

The Women tried to buy West Ham a few years ago and is Minted.

Properly minted and is from the Town.

And has 16 million to spend getting us to the Championship.



Your record for rumours is probably the worst ever on here. :wink: So based on your normal bullshit no takeover is imminent. :wink: Infact Pools don't even exist in real life :laugh:


Spot on Leggie- was it last time or the time before that he guaranteed us that Hollywood's Will Farrell was buying the club - he's delusional, another rogue mackem on the wind up.



Agree Kettering just a shame these types who it's obvious to most have no football input at all just shit are even allowed on here in the first place. banghead I am not against stopping others supporters on here but people like him should be blocked in my humble opinion. banghead


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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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Pooly_Imp wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
Kettering Poolie wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
Porter and Boyd wrote:
It’s 99% done and dusted,Singh has demanded something else at the last second again.

The Women tried to buy West Ham a few years ago and is Minted.

Properly minted and is from the Town.

And has 16 million to spend getting us to the Championship.



Your record for rumours is probably the worst ever on here. :wink: So based on your normal bullshit no takeover is imminent. :wink: Infact Pools don't even exist in real life :laugh:


Spot on Leggie- was it last time or the time before that he guaranteed us that Hollywood's Will Farrell was buying the club - he's delusional, another rogue mackem on the wind up.



Agree Kettering just a shame these types who it's obvious to most have no football input at all just shit are even allowed on here in the first place. banghead I am not against stopping others supporters on here but people like him should be blocked in my humble opinion. banghead


Just have a laugh about it and show it doesn't bother you.


But it does :laugh:


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Leggie43 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Porter and Boyd wrote:
It’s 99% done and dusted,Singh has demanded something else at the last second again.

The Women tried to buy West Ham a few years ago and is Minted.

Properly minted and is from the Town.

And has 16 million to spend getting us to the Championship.


If it’s the woman who tried to buy West a ham, that means she’s known, so what’s her name…?
You’ve already indicated who the
woman is, just give us a name…?
I’m waiting :angry-tappingfoot:

Ok what have you been sniffing now…out on the Biffo gas? :laugh:


I reckon he is insinuating it's the massive 110 million ? euro lottery winner. She apparently lives in Wynyard sctatchinghead She has already donated to rugby in the town I believe. I see no reason why she would invest in Pools sctatchinghead

Ever since she won the money various cock eyed optimists have been naively assuming she’d turn up at Pools, kick the door in and take over.
I won £30 on the grand national draw, but kept it quiet just in case I was linked with a take over :laugh: :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
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Is this the fella,
https://find-and-update.company-informa ... pointments.

Reading some articles on the net he has a chequered history as well,
https://thebulletin.news/newsdesk/azerb ... ony-blair/


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Gutted when the February takeover was rejected.
We now an established proud member of division 5 so sing n Coxall more or less the same.
Some might live in a fantasy world of everything is rosy.
Whatsthat saying.
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Was just going to mention the accounts Mr MHSeats. Said previous we’re in about £2.5mil of debt based on previous accounts plus both stuff HUST and Raj have said. Seems we had £2.4mil of loans as of June last year (and I’m sure it hasn’t got better since then.)
It is a massive worry because without someone coming in and offering Raj a shit ton of money, we have a big problem. I just can’t see anyone paying even a million for a NL club, which then still has another £1m or so in debt.
It makes the trust’s effort in February even more valiant as they must have seen where it’s all heading.
Keep your fingers crossed for Will Ferrell to turn up.


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Snowy wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Porter and Boyd wrote:
It’s 99% done and dusted,Singh has demanded something else at the last second again.

The Women tried to buy West Ham a few years ago and is Minted.

Properly minted and is from the Town.

And has 16 million to spend getting us to the Championship.


If it’s the woman who tried to buy West a ham, that means she’s known, so what’s her name…?
You’ve already indicated who the
woman is, just give us a name…?
I’m waiting :angry-tappingfoot:

Ok what have you been sniffing now…out on the Biffo gas? :laugh:


I reckon he is insinuating it's the massive 110 million ? euro lottery winner. She apparently lives in Wynyard sctatchinghead She has already donated to rugby in the town I believe. I see no reason why she would invest in Pools sctatchinghead

Ever since she won the money various cock eyed optimists have been naively assuming she’d turn up at Pools, kick the door in and take over.
I won £30 on the grand national draw, but kept it quiet just in case I was linked with a take over :laugh: :laugh:


Only you Snowy :laugh:


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Mikey76 wrote:
Was just going to mention the accounts Mr MHSeats. Said previous we’re in about £2.5mil of debt based on previous accounts plus both stuff HUST and Raj have said. Seems we had £2.4mil of loans as of June last year (and I’m sure it hasn’t got better since then.)
It is a massive worry because without someone coming in and offering Raj a shit ton of money, we have a big problem. I just can’t see anyone paying even a million for a NL club, which then still has another £1m or so in debt.
It makes the trust’s effort in February even more valiant as they must have seen where it’s all heading.
Keep your fingers crossed for Will Ferrell to turn up.

So it's about £1.3m to Raj Singhs companies, ~£110,000 to Sage and the rest to Sport England. I doubt anyone will pay anywhere near £1.3 million for Pools so at some point Raj will have to cut some of his losses if he ever wants to leave.


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Spot on Krampesh. Raj might compromise I suppose but given his history with Darlo I’m not sure how likely that is.
You would hope the Sports England loan isn’t the thing that kills us - not a great look for the government to pull the plug on a football club.


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just wish i could go to sleep and wake up for the KO at yeovil. rumours, rumours,rumours with little truth behind any on here.


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When fans get giddy about us paying transfers fees but in reality it turns out to be a whopping 10k.


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just wish i could go to sleep and wake up for the KO at yeovil. rumours, rumours,rumours with little truth behind any on here.

Those accounts aren’t rumours to be fair. We’ve gone from a decent place in 2021 to this.


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The accounts are as close to fact as we will get, but unfortunately they are being misinterpreted on this thread.

As it stands we owe Raj £1.1M down from a high of £2.2M.

We owe Sage £110K down from £1.7M

Therefore in the past 4 years we have repaid (or renegotiated) £2.7M worth of debt.

That is a huge positive. We are not a debt saddled club. We are effectively paying off our mortgage.

We did pick up £1.2M from the Government to help survive Covid in the form of low interest loan. This is repayable over a term that could be up to 20 years, so another 17 years to go.

Previously we just kept this in the bank, but now we are down to £622K in the bank (as of end of 22/23 season). That's a little concerning but nothing to panic about.

The reason why our cash reduced is that we made a loss in the 22/23 season.

More information will be available when the accounts for Clarence 18 Ltd are published, which should be in the next few days. Those accounts include turnover for the football club, transfer fees both in and out and also wage bill.


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Bosh85 wrote:
The accounts are as close to fact as we will get, but unfortunately they are being misinterpreted on this thread.

As it stands we owe Raj £1.1M down from a high of £2.2M.

We owe Sage £110K down from £1.7M

Therefore in the past 4 years we have repaid (or renegotiated) £2.7M worth of debt.

That is a huge positive. We are not a debt saddled club. We are effectively paying off our mortgage.

We did pick up £1.2M from the Government to help survive Covid in the form of low interest loan. This is repayable over a term that could be up to 20 years, so another 17 years to go.

Previously we just kept this in the bank, but now we are down to £622K in the bank (as of end of 22/23 season). That's a little concerning but nothing to panic about.

The reason why our cash reduced is that we made a loss in the 22/23 season.

More information will be available when the accounts for Clarence 18 Ltd are published, which should be in the next few days. Those accounts include turnover for the football club, transfer fees both in and out and also wage bill.



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Bosh85 wrote:
The accounts are as close to fact as we will get, but unfortunately they are being misinterpreted on this thread.

As it stands we owe Raj £1.1M down from a high of £2.2M.

We owe Sage £110K down from £1.7M

Therefore in the past 4 years we have repaid (or renegotiated) £2.7M worth of debt.

That is a huge positive. We are not a debt saddled club. We are effectively paying off our mortgage.

We did pick up £1.2M from the Government to help survive Covid in the form of low interest loan. This is repayable over a term that could be up to 20 years, so another 17 years to go.

Previously we just kept this in the bank, but now we are down to £622K in the bank (as of end of 22/23 season). That's a little concerning but nothing to panic about.

The reason why our cash reduced is that we made a loss in the 22/23 season.

More information will be available when the accounts for Clarence 18 Ltd are published, which should be in the next few days. Those accounts include turnover for the football club, transfer fees both in and out and also wage bill.


You're close but not quite there on a few points. Raj Singh's companies (Clarence 18, P and R Construction, Prestige Care Group Holdings) are owed a total of £1,300,219 with the £1.1 million owed to Clarence 18 being the largest chunk. You're correct in that this is down from £2.2 million but this is likely to have been mostly repaid by the £800,000 Raj took out of the club in the last set of accounts.
The Sage debt was £1.7 million initially but was negotiated to only be upon sporting success, player sales etc. upon Raj taking control of the club, therefore the debt post takeover has never been £1.7 million, I believe from the first accounts post takeover it was estimated at £330,000. So we are down £220,000 from the initial amount owed.
So we have (for better or worse) repaid just over a million in debt in the last 2 years. We are still a 'debt saddled club' just most is owed to our owner and Sport England, which like you say is low interest and over a long period of time.


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Krampesh could you please explain in a little more detail the sage money sctatchinghead I still don't understand how it changed from £1.7 million to £330,000 sctatchinghead


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Leggie43 wrote:
Krampesh could you please explain in a little more detail the sage money sctatchinghead I still don't understand how it changed from £1.7 million to £330,000 sctatchinghead

Someone who knows a lot more than this can obviously correct me but I believe when Sage/Blackledge wanted to pull the plug we owed them £1.7 million. Sage knew they weren't going to get this back in full, so the only options were: negotiate a takeover and accept a much lower amount paid to them over a long period of time or put the club into admin and get pennies to the pound back. They obviously negotiated with Raj and settled on an amount that they would be happy with, I don't know if we paid them any up front (Mr I?) but after Raj Singh took over this amount was estimated (in the 2019 accounts) to be £330,000. We've since had onfield success (promotion, player sales, cup runs) and have paid back some of this debt so the amount left in the current accounts is estimated to be £110,000.
Obviously without knowing all the details we'll never know when, why or how much we pay upon sporting success but the gist of it is Sage accepted way less money than they were owed because the other option was get even less back.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:52 pm 
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Krampesh wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
Krampesh could you please explain in a little more detail the sage money sctatchinghead I still don't understand how it changed from £1.7 million to £330,000 sctatchinghead

Someone who knows a lot more than this can obviously correct me but I believe when Sage/Blackledge wanted to pull the plug we owed them £1.7 million. Sage knew they weren't going to get this back in full, so the only options were: negotiate a takeover and accept a much lower amount paid to them over a long period of time or put the club into admin and get pennies to the pound back. They obviously negotiated with Raj and settled on an amount that they would be happy with, I don't know if we paid them any up front (Mr I?) but after Raj Singh took over this amount was estimated (in the 2019 accounts) to be £330,000. We've since had onfield success (promotion, player sales, cup runs) and have paid back some of this debt so the amount left in the current accounts is estimated to be £110,000.
Obviously without knowing all the details we'll never know when, why or how much we pay upon sporting success but the gist of it is Sage accepted way less money than they were owed because the other option was get even less back.



Appreciate that information Krampesh :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:05 pm 
Her name is Hammond


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:14 pm 
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Porter and Boyd wrote:
Her name is Hammond

Her name is Hammond would be a good name for a long lost Johnny Cash album.


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 Post subject: Re: Takeover Rumours
PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:27 pm 
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Porter and Boyd wrote:
Her name is Hammond


Have actually heard this as well, so perhaps not ALL bollocks :laugh:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:40 pm 
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Well I haven’t heard of her, so maybe it’s just some bollocks.. sctatchinghead

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