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 Post subject: Englands performance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:18 am 
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Boring….I spent too much time watching the clock tick down and just wanting it to be over….waste of an evening for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:42 am 
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Proved how inept a manager Southgate is, how many times have we seen an opposition manager change tactics and change the run of the game yet he hasn't got a plan B and his subs were pretty much like for like. Lucky we didn't concede against a pretty awful team imo. They'll get tortured by the first decent side they come up against.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 5:48 am 
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Typical England performance, get an early goal and try to hang on to the lead. Southgate hasnt got a clue, needed someone who could come on and hold the ball, keep possession.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:13 am 
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He's turned one of England's brightest stars Foden into a bang average sideways and backwards passing robot. And wtf is Alexander Arnold doing in the middle of midfield, an absolute liability gave the ball away in dangerous areas numerous times lucky not to have cost a goal..
Defending a 1 goal lead with a dodgy defence isn't a great strategy.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:22 am 
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Got the result.
Should attack a bit more in next game.
Brilliant support for the lads.
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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:23 am 
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hope pools can bore us to death by winning the vast majority of games 1 nil next season. if england had scored more but let a goal in the knives would be out for somebody and being made a scapegoat for allowing the opposition to score. afraid nothing but perfection will suit many, especially the non regular fans who will be watching.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:11 am 
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We've tried protecting a lead for the past 2 seasons and it's never worked. When you're on the front foot successful teams go on to increase their lead most of the time. Others tend to concede late on when it's too late to react as we usually do and England were fortunate that the Serbs are a poor team.
Yes it's a results business, but similar performances against better teams will see Enand home soon.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:36 am 
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In all honesty, I missed the last 10 minutes of the game. I fell asleep.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:43 am 
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ZNB12 wrote:
In all honesty, I missed the last 10 minutes of the game. I fell asleep.

I think thats the plan, bore the opposition to sleep with endless sideways and backwards pedestrian passes then walk a few in at the end.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:12 am 
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What’s the problem about Englands performance, they won 3 points in the bag and top of their group.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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we made hard work of it thats the issue - i know we cant expect to be going into games and thumping lower opposition 5-0 but after seeing Spain and Germany putting games to bed we should also be doing the same. Just wish he had utilised the subs sooner and also took Foden and Kane off !


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:05 am 
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Kane will never be subbed unless he is injured because he is Southgate's best mate. Last night England were just being England so I dont know why people are surprised. We'll probably get out of a pish poor group and then lose to the first decent team we meet.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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ZNB12 wrote:
In all honesty, I missed the last 10 minutes of the game. I fell asleep.

Snap. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:20 am 
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billygoatblue wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
In all honesty, I missed the last 10 minutes of the game. I fell asleep.

I think thats the plan, bore the opposition to sleep with endless sideways and backwards pedestrian passes then walk a few in at the end.

The commentators kept mentioning the huge number of passes which England made in comparison to Serbia as a badge of honour……but endless passes with no end product is pointless.

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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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I think Southgate will end up at Man Utd.

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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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If Pools won the majority of their games 1-0 playing with no end product I wouldn’t be bothered.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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PTID wrote:
He's turned one of England's brightest stars Foden into a bang average sideways and backwards passing robot. .


Foden didn't perform to anywhere near what he's capable of. People like Bellingham and Rice did. He should have been hooked when Saka was - Saka at least had a decent 1st half. Foden was anonymous all game. Bet Eze, Gordon or Palmer would have bust a gut to show what they could do.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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Flying Hogans wrote:
PTID wrote:
He's turned one of England's brightest stars Foden into a bang average sideways and backwards passing robot. .


Foden didn't perform to anywhere near what he's capable of. People like Bellingham and Rice did. He should have been hooked when Saka was - Saka at least had a decent 1st half. Foden was anonymous all game. Bet Eze, Gordon or Palmer would have bust a gut to show what they could do.


Certainly cannot fault your views. The silly part is Southgate said we played well and even the players agreed. :roll: The positive is we won without conceding which is a good sign going forward. The negative is if we start believing that was a good performance we won't be in Germany very long. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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Palmer and Eze would have been perfect for last night as would Gordon - Bowen did well and his stats for his short tenure where good too. But We just have to make the most of having such great players from the bench ! unfortunately i cant see Southgate giving some of these lads the game time they deserve. Ivan Toney may get a daft 5 mins if hes lucky aswell, not so much a game changer but someone who knows where the net is. But i think like most of the England supporters today we are all baffled as to how Foden and Kane had such a bad game ?
Kane was ball watching as 2 perfect square balls came across the 6 yard box too - very unlike him to not get on the end of them.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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The only excuse for Foden is Trippier isn't a left back and was very negative whenever he was on the ball. The side will be better balanced if Luke Shaw gets fully fit, but what are the odds of that happening?

Foden doesn't like playing on the left, but he'll only get moved inside if Southgate takes a chance on Rice being the only defensive midfielder. Don't think England defend well enough for that to be an option - specially not later on in the tournament.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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We have a manager that has been unbelievably lucky with the standard of opposition they have played in recent tournaments as soon as we play someone decent we normally lose. That was awful for 65 minutes last night.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
We have a manager that has been unbelievably lucky with the standard of opposition they have played in recent tournaments as soon as we play someone decent we normally lose. That was awful for 65 minutes last night.


I agree. Same inept manager, same inept tactics and somehow people expect a different outcome. England were lucky Serbia were bang average.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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Spot on he's learned absolutely nothing tactically as a coach, he's come on in leaps and bounds with his political correctness and wokeness though and that suits the fa.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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First game nerves...Team starts to gel ,harder to breakdown,tactics improve ..3-0 to England next game... bbolt


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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Why didn't he take a recognised and fit left back? Trippier out of position, Alexander Arnold out of position, just weakens the team. Serbia had us by the balls for the 2nd half and we couldn't have complained if they'd taken a point or even all 3.
Don't see it as nerves myself, mismanagement more like.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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PTID wrote:
Why didn't he take a recognised and fit left back? Trippier out of position, Alexander Arnold out of position, just weakens the team. Serbia had us by the balls for the 2nd half and we couldn't have complained if they'd taken a point or even all 3.
Don't see it as nerves myself, mismanagement more like.


Agree.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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Belgium got beat by Slovakia today. What their fans would give now for a scrappy 1-0 win!
It's tournament football - win your opening game, move on, win your group, move on, play the third placed team from another group, move on again. The quarter-finals are on 5th and 6th July. My money's on England v Italy in Dusseldorf on the 6th July.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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While I agree that last night was shite, especially in the 2nd half, we won 1-0. If we win every game 1-0 & bore the shite out of everyone in Europe we will win the Euros. Tournament football isn't about playing expansive, entertaining football & winning every game 5-0. It's just about winning, that's all that matters, nothing more, nothing less!!


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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But the chances of that team playing that style winning the tournament are not very good are they?


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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Apart from Spain no one really stood out yet, Germans scored plenty but Scotland fucking shite
I wish they would go back to a 16 team tournament as too much shite has qualified, Scotland Georgia and Albania ffs


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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This 1-0 to the finals stuff is accountants football….the whole point of a ‘tournament’ is to be entertained, that’s what the game is really all about in the end, call me a romantic fool.

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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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Snowy wrote:
This 1-0 to the finals stuff is accountants football….the whole point of a ‘tournament’ is to be entertained, that’s what the game is really all about in the end, call me a romantic fool.

if you are not into stats then football at the top isn,t for everybody. how many times do the winners just scrape into the final through the group satages and win the thing. very rarely do the most entertaining team win the thing. again if england do win the euro,s it will have zero affect on pools next season but even more interest in the premier league.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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The Euros is and always has been a poor mans World Cup, however it was more entertaining before the break up of the Soviet Union. That led to the introduction of the likes of Ukraine, Slovenia, Czech Republic, Slovenia, Serbia, Georgia etc. This had the effect of diluting the quality but increasing the number of games - which richly benefits UEFA, the EBU and the individual TV companies of course.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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It should be a knock out competition from round one, when the teams play in the mini leagues most don’t actually come out and go for a win. Teams sit back trying not to concede then hope to score on the breakaway.


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 Post subject: Re: Englands performance
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Does anyone truly believes that starting 11 can keep clean sheets against the best teams in Europe?
The best teams will punish us down our left and through the middle where we are weak defensively Alexander Arnold, Trippier, Stones are all poor in the formation we started with.


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