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 Post subject: Manager update
PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2024 11:08 am 
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Pretty much bog standard what you'd expect from any manager at this stage. 2 things of interest are that he's very bullish about athleticism and fitness, the other being that he's very positive about Dan Dodds recovery.


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At least he has said something. Good news about dodds, not sure whats going on about mancini?. Sounds like the boro loan route is on its way back.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
At least he has said something. Good news about dodds, not sure whats going on about mancini?. Sounds like the boro loan route is on its way back.


Well he is getting hammered on twitter for basically telling us sod all. All he mentions is bringing in mainly North East players / a little mention of Dodds and the Euros are slowing things down for Pools but not for the other clubs banghead


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2024 11:45 am 
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I agree mostly as expected but must disagree about late June when all the best players will have signed elsewhere., I think it would be a good idea if this was done fortnightly to keep the supporters both up to date and enthused for the coming season.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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Leggie43 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
At least he has said something. Good news about dodds, not sure whats going on about mancini?. Sounds like the boro loan route is on its way back.


Well he is getting hammered on twitter for basically telling us sod all. All he mentions is bringing in mainly North East players / a little mention of Dodds and the Euros are slowing things down for Pools but not for the other clubs banghead


I said we would use the euros as an excuse, but i dont think he meant that as an excuse just that its longer time period between the season. Thing is they are back for pre season in about 4 weeks so he will have to get a bit of a shuffle on if he wants these players in tip top condition. Pointless going on about the first two weeks are vital if you havent got most your squad in place.


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Essex poolie wrote:
I agree mostly as expected but must disagree about late June when all the best players will have signed elsewhere., I think it would be a good idea if this was done fortnightly to keep the supporters both up to date and enthused for the coming season.


But remember this is Pools banghead


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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Leggie43 wrote:
Essex poolie wrote:
I agree mostly as expected but must disagree about late June when all the best players will have signed elsewhere., I think it would be a good idea if this was done fortnightly to keep the supporters both up to date and enthused for the coming season.


But remember this is Pools banghead


I here a statement incoming about massive Ebbsfleet in the coming weeks is on its way. We cant compete with these clubs because they dont want to move their families, imagine being a footballer and never been able to move more than 20 miles away? I think mancini, effion williams joel porter and dimi must of got the wrong memos.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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Effion still lives and works in Hartlepool so can't be that bad of a place to play football. sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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A lot of words for not a lot to be honest. At least there is now some news from the club!
Interesting to see how 'I want business done early' has changed to 'we must be patient', and 'very little activity is happening across the industry' is mentioned despite over half of the teams in our league next year having signed a new player.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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Krampesh wrote:
A lot of words for not a lot to be honest. At least there is now some news from the club!
Interesting to see how 'I want business done early' has changed to 'we must be patient', and 'very little activity is happening across the industry' is mentioned despite over half of the teams in our league next year having signed a new player.


Barnet thave signed 6, Tamworth 13, york 4 or 5. Forrest green pinch 2 good playwrs off Cheltenham, maybe this was wrote 2 weeks ago and the media guy is back.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
At least he has said something. Good news about dodds, not sure whats going on about mancini?. Sounds like the boro loan route is on its way back.

noticed the lack of mentioning mancini myself. just get the feeling he isn,t coming back to us or anywhere else in this country. why has he done all his re hab back in france unless the club instructed him to do so which is hard to imagine. it isn,t as if this country is so brilliant for a 5th tier footballer who might be a bit homesick for his country again after being there for so long.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Krampesh wrote:
A lot of words for not a lot to be honest. At least there is now some news from the club!
Interesting to see how 'I want business done early' has changed to 'we must be patient', and 'very little activity is happening across the industry' is mentioned despite over half of the teams in our league next year having signed a new player.


Barnet thave signed 6, Tamworth 13, york 4 or 5. Forrest green pinch 2 good playwrs off Cheltenham, maybe this was wrote 2 weeks ago and the media guy is back.

i,d guess there will be others like us who are looking and talking but have not finalised any deals yet. you can use any information about to back your cause. even i cannot be arsed to look up what the other 18 teams are doing on this front.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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accrington fan wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Krampesh wrote:
A lot of words for not a lot to be honest. At least there is now some news from the club!
Interesting to see how 'I want business done early' has changed to 'we must be patient', and 'very little activity is happening across the industry' is mentioned despite over half of the teams in our league next year having signed a new player.


Barnet thave signed 6, Tamworth 13, york 4 or 5. Forrest green pinch 2 good playwrs off Cheltenham, maybe this was wrote 2 weeks ago and the media guy is back.

i,d guess there will be others like us who are looking and talking but have not finalised any deals yet. you can use any information about to back your cause. even i cannot be arsed to look up what the other 18 teams are doing on this front.


Im sure their is but he has said their is very little movement, thats not strictly true is it? We all know the score at pools we wait till some season ticket money comes in before we move for players. It will be late next week or the week after before we bring people in.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
Essex poolie wrote:
I agree mostly as expected but must disagree about late June when all the best players will have signed elsewhere., I think it would be a good idea if this was done fortnightly to keep the supporters both up to date and enthused for the coming season.


But remember this is Pools banghead


I here a statement incoming about massive Ebbsfleet in the coming weeks is on its way. We cant compete with these clubs because they dont want to move their families, imagine being a footballer and never been able to move more than 20 miles away? I think mancini, effion williams joel porter and dimi must of got the wrong memos.

the difference now is that if a player lived quite close to central london he could spend years in the top parts of non league by signing one year contracts, move from club to club but never travelling much more than 30 miles away. like it or not we are stuck out on a limb and the town does not get the best publicity especially from some who have never actually been to the place. the SE isn,t for everyone but neither is the NE for others.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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accrington fan wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
At least he has said something. Good news about dodds, not sure whats going on about mancini?. Sounds like the boro loan route is on its way back.

noticed the lack of mentioning mancini myself. just get the feeling he isn,t coming back to us or anywhere else in this country. why has he done all his re hab back in france unless the club instructed him to do so which is hard to imagine. it isn,t as if this country is so brilliant for a 5th tier footballer who might be a bit homesick for his country again after being there for so long.


Isnt he at lyon or somewhere? So they be shit hot compared to a club that looks shut for shop for 6 weeks. I reckon he will come back they are probobly just keeping him happy. Whether he will be the same lad lets hope so.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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accrington fan wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
Essex poolie wrote:
I agree mostly as expected but must disagree about late June when all the best players will have signed elsewhere., I think it would be a good idea if this was done fortnightly to keep the supporters both up to date and enthused for the coming season.


But remember this is Pools banghead


I here a statement incoming about massive Ebbsfleet in the coming weeks is on its way. We cant compete with these clubs because they dont want to move their families, imagine being a footballer and never been able to move more than 20 miles away? I think mancini, effion williams joel porter and dimi must of got the wrong memos.

the difference now is that if a player lived quite close to central london he could spend years in the top parts of non league by signing one year contracts, move from club to club but never travelling much more than 30 miles away. like it or not we are stuck out on a limb and the town does not get the best publicity especially from some who have never actually been to the place. the SE isn,t for everyone but neither is the NE for others.


We are but most players dont live in hartlepool or anywhere near. Players go where the money is Kellerman has been on all four sides of the country so i think its more down to the fact vwry few clubs are after him so staying closer to london is good for him. We are on a limb but we have players from all over the british islea playing or played for us.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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i,d guess there will be others like us who are looking and talking but have not finalised any deals yet. you can use any information about to back your cause. even i cannot be arsed to look up what the other 18 teams are doing on this front.


Im sure their is but he has said their is very little movement, thats not strictly true is it? We all know the score at pools we wait till some season ticket money comes in before we move for players. It will be late next week or the week after before we bring people in.

we say this waiting for the season ticket money coming in every season without any real information to back this up. seems a really long process now to sign any player and its weeks now before the first talk has taken place till the player is revealed. i,m sure we have all heard it before where new players have said the move has been on the cards for a few weeks now but it eventually got finalised. teams like stockport in league 1 who do not need season ticket money like pools do have only made 1 new signing so i,d guess they are in for a bad season because they haven,t announced a new team already.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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We are but most players dont live in hartlepool or anywhere near. Players go where the money is Kellerman has been on all four sides of the country so i think its more down to the fact vwry few clubs are after him so staying closer to london is good for him. We are on a limb but we have players from all over the british islea playing or played for us.

at the end of the day are any of us losing sleep on a player we might have seen but cannot remember signing for ebbsfleet. doubt his name would have been mentioned if sarll wasn,t our manger.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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Hardly a clarion call that will have Pools fans heading to the box office in their droves, lots of waffle and repetition of stuff that we heard when Sarll was appointed. However at least he has made an effort to communicate with the fans. ‘Underwhelming’ would be the best description at this stage however.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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Krampesh wrote:
A lot of words for not a lot to be honest. At least there is now some news from the club!
Interesting to see how 'I want business done early' has changed to 'we must be patient', and 'very little activity is happening across the industry' is mentioned despite over half of the teams in our league next year having signed a new player.


Yes dusting off the last 2 years playbook, only another couple
Of weeks until ‘we won’t be held to ransom’ and a month
Until ‘we only want players who want to play for this club’


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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I'd imagine most of what he's said will be or already has been said by managers across the country.
I really don't understand why our league finished so early compared to efl and pl? We've now got about 5 weeks before pre season so would expect some incoming over the next week or 2, and hopefully another couple out the door.


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Ill say this again for those at the back... MANCINI is back in his motherland getting treatment because his Insurance said so. I dont think it covers him for over here or even if it did hes chosen to be with his family and recover there at the state of the art Lyon facility. Mancini will be back in the UK for pre season but wether that is for us is another thing altogether - but his clause has been triggered so hopefully not another Sylla debacle !

Most of the lads live in Durham or Yarm - some even in Wynyard. Pools as im aware also own some flats still or rent them out should i say which some of the Players for example Umerah where living in at a cost of over 800 bar a month to the club. Just found this out the other week actually but its not really a shock as i know the club have always seemed to do this.


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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PTID wrote:
I'd imagine most of what he's said will be or already has been said by managers across the country.
I really don't understand why our league finished so early compared to efl and pl? We've now got about 5 weeks before pre season so would expect some incoming over the next week or 2, and hopefully another couple out the door.


Is there a season finished to early excuse in there.
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Good to know Sarll has been "quite" busy. There's so little actual information in his update it's not surprising some people are speculating about Mancini to fill in the gaps. He doesn't mention Mani D or Joe Grey either - should we be worried about that? bbolt


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Read the update, would have thought arranging a pre season friendly or two may have been on the to do list, but I suppose we all need to be ‘patient’

Also trying to get us excited about feather and Ferguson signing as coups is taking the piss, hardly beating other teams off with a shitty stick to
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Dodds back is great but please pools don’t spin as anew signing !


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Flying Hogans wrote:
Good to know Sarll has been "quite" busy. There's so little actual information in his update it's not surprising some people are speculating about Mancini to fill in the gaps. He doesn't mention Mani D or Joe Grey either - should we be worried about that? bbolt


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 Post subject: Re: Manager update
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Doesn't Mancini have a years trigger on his contract? As long as he does then he can't leave unless sold. Great player yes but who would pay money for him after the year he's just had. I know it's a cut throat industry but I'd say he owes pools a good season.


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Thing is 250k will get both players.
They under contract so are sellable assets with a bit of skill above non league when both fully fit.


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RichyHpool wrote:
Doesn't Mancini have a years trigger on his contract? As long as he does then he can't leave unless sold. Great player yes but who would pay money for him after the year he's just had. I know it's a cut throat industry but I'd say he owes pools a good season.


It's already been triggered Richy. Was part of the Retained List announcement:

Option taken to extend contract:

Dan Dodds
Tom Parkes
Anthony Mancini

Not sure why some people want to think there's more to it than that. sctatchinghead He's got another year with Pools regardless of how fit he is at the end of pre-season, same as Dodds.


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Think some people are over reacting to Mancini's injury anyway. He came back after an horrific hamstring detachment injury. Subsequently he suffered a groin injury so it wasn't a reccurence of the hamstring. I'm no expert but don't think I've heard of a footballing career being finished by a groin injury.
If I had the option of private medical insurance in France vs Tees General I know which I'd opt for.


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BP - the players you mention as from not being in the north east were all signed in the IOR era when Pools were paying big wages. Remember Watson was even getting flown up


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[quote="PTID"]Think some people are over reacting to Mancini's injury anyway. He came back after an horrific hamstring detachment injury. Subsequently he suffered a groin injury so it wasn't a reccurence of the hamstring. I'm no expert but don't think I've heard of a footballing career being finished by a groin injury.

not one, but recurring injuries can sap a players confidence till they drop down leagues and forces them to pack up early. he didn,t have just one serious injury in a single season but two and no matter how good his treatment and re hab have been its hard to believe he has no doubts when he does play a serious game again and his head might be more of a problem than the rest of his body.


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Sterry had this issue didnt he ? seems to of overcome it with Donny.

Its the staff and managers job to man manage in this situation and give him all he needs and more. Hoping the new look staff and wisdom of Lennie can help the lad out if his head does wobble a bit.


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Understand what you're saying but we don't know how serious the groin injury was. When he came back he looked lacking in match fitness but didn't look as if he was at all tentative so hopefully he's got the mental strength to come back strong.


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Lets see what Man Management skills Snarll has, And how long it takes him to start falling out with players.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
Lets see what Man Management skills Snarll has, And how long it takes him to start falling out with players.

it will be hard to imagine there will be no player who was with us prior to his appointment who doesn,t fall out with him and ends up being an unplayed sub. its just how things pan out and its nothing to say either are wrong. i,d guess we have all fallen out with a new boss even if others are fine with them.


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Think some people are over reacting to Mancini's injury anyway. He came back after an horrific hamstring detachment injury. Subsequently he suffered a groin injury so it wasn't a reccurence of the hamstring. I'm no expert but don't think I've heard of a footballing career being finished by a groin injury.

not one, but recurring injuries can sap a players confidence till they drop down leagues and forces them to pack up early. he didn,t have just one serious injury in a single season but two and no matter how good his treatment and re hab have been its hard to believe he has no doubts when he does play a serious game again and his head might be more of a problem than the rest of his body.

Injury can have a mental impact as well, broke my leg in two places and sorry but your confidence goes, you can play but you’re wary of going into things, you always have this sub conscious sense your injury leaves you vulnerable in that particular location’. It eventually recedes, but takes time.

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accrington fan wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
Lets see what Man Management skills Snarll has, And how long it takes him to start falling out with players.

it will be hard to imagine there will be no player who was with us prior to his appointment who doesn,t fall out with him and ends up being an unplayed sub. its just how things pan out and its nothing to say either are wrong. i,d guess we have all fallen out with a new boss even if others are fine with them.


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