Good watch. Interesting that he didn't want Challinor but the Chief Exec did. This is how a club should be run and he is humble to admit that he doesn't know much about football.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB8VuK6Cz9g

Well Raj watches the Borer so he knows feck all about football as well.

Wasn’t it said the owner was a mate of his or am I mistaken?

yes, and sensibly leave that side of the club to others who know better. plus he admitted he was a fan of another local club before he bought it. if only we could find our version of him our future would look a lot brighter.

Thats a club that is going places! It wouldn't surprise me to see them in the championship in the next 2 years with Challinor in charge!

and with only a slightly higher fan base and potential as pools have. remember taking the piss out of my lad when they went into administration and played in the national league north. whose laughing now.

Karma ya bastad.
Now we all suffering.

Excellent, this guy is a true visionary not only the club but what he and the club can do for the local community. The money ne has put into the club is as equity NOT as a loan a la Raj. It would be a good idea for Raj to watch this along with his hangers on and see what a proper owner does and how he supports his managers and also how he values his customers the supporters.

But he's the exception as an owner isn't he? How many owners in football gift money to their club? Raj can spend his own money however he wants, it's not for us to tell him how to.

Stockport owner very honest in stating they bought their way out of the NL the same as Wrexham ,Notts county and Chesterfield.

That's not a problem. But should he spend the fans n sponsors money the same way!

Interesting they are changing the model and released some big earners
I think challinor has reached his ceiling, v good manager lower down, and especially when he has a budget, but only one way of playing and if he can’t outspend anyone will
Be found out
My bet is sacked at yeh beginning of the 25-26 season after they fail to push on

Again, however Raj uses the money raised from sponsors and fans it's his prerogative to do that, same as every other owner at every other football club.

Not sure what your point is ?
Yes he can do what he wants but we are then entitled to criticize him

That’s like saying when coxall was stripping the club Barr (and I’m not comparing Raj to him) then that was his prerogative so nothing we can do

And Higgy still thinks Coxall had a rough time.

And that's all true wether it's Raj, Coxhall, or whoever owns us they hold all the cards and pull all the strings - what can we do to stop them doing as they please?

Express our displeasure as their tenure vocally and often !

It's as futile as telling the tide not to come in.

People have been doing that for two seasons now, when is it going to start working.

Using that logic why support and cheer the team on if it’s all futile ?
Seems a very reductive way of thinking

Not even suggesting that it is logical but nevertheless it is a fact.
You can't expect to dictate to another man how he spends his money.
Owners of football clubs aren't necessarily fans of that club and if you think they are going to bow down to what you demand you are barking up the wrong tree.
That is the point I am making. The owner is not responding to the demands of the fans and hasn't done for over two years. He might respond to the threat of a boycott of season ticket purchase but I would suggest you won't like that result either.
I have been at the whim and fancy of the club's owners since 1952 and whilst I absolutely hate the idea I have had to put up with it.
There is no logic whilst supporting Pools, all we have is hope. The thinnest of thin version of hope.

Any proof he is spending his own money? Or do fans have access to his personal bank account now?

What would the point be?
You can only do that at the match and it would surely affect the players if the crowd are continually complaining…..find another way, use your brain.

Any proof that he's not. You should know as you appear the fountain of all knowledge regarding the owner. Or so you would have us believe.

I'd hazard a guess that the club is spending or has spent some of his money hence the loans owed to him.

Or his company had borrowed the money.

Anyway, Raj isn't a terrible chairman, he's just not very good. I mean the bills are getting paid which is good but we're not progressing and what's more, even as we speak, poor knee jerk short sighted decisions are being made. We're not suffering like some of the former league clubs in our league but we sure are rubbing shoulders with them for a reason. An injection of money into pools would of course be welcome but I think just an injection of competence would make a massive difference right now.

Everything you say there is correct but in my opinion it's also a ticking time bomb. The debt is too high and we're in the hands of one man, who has shown previously he's not shy of pulling the plug.
I can completely understand why fans see bills being paid and not wanting to rock the boat. That's not illogical. But the higher the debt gets, the less likely someone is to take over. There's some apathy from a proportion of fans now as well, which won't help... in essence this is not a sustainable model and that why I'm worried. I wouldn't profess to speak for others though.

I've not watched all the interview but watched ten minutes to get a flavour. It's a really excellent and insightful discussion. When people ask what transparency looks like, that's pretty much it.

His point about teams having to buy their way out of the conference is interesting too. You need money or rarer still, a special manager. Stockport paid good money for Challinor for starters (which we obviously reinvested in our side... ) To a degree, and to be fair to Raj, there was reasonable investment when we got promoted, although a big thing was made of building a team from rejects.

Ultimately Stockport have a solid plan - they talk about seven years. It's not pie in the sky like some of our previously CEO's spouted. If Raj wants to get fans back on side, he needs to share some sort of strategy, something better than trying umpteen different managers and hoping one sticks.

We can only dream.

I see your.still trying to defend him at every turn. So have you proof he is then?

I said this after he turned down the consortium, ok
Raj what is your plan?
None has been forthcoming as he doesn’t have one imo, and
Now he’ll get the mug desperate to be on the board as a fans rep to put another layer between him and accountability

Got to agree Loyal

The differences between the owner of Stockport and Pools in Mark Stott is a lifelong Stockport fan who is reported to be worth over £400 million and wrote off debts of £7.7 million at Stockport.
Raj Singh is not a life long Pools fan and has nowhere near the worth of the Stockport owner, his group Prestige Homes owns 6 Care Homes, Stotts property company turnover runs into billions.

So if Raj hasn't put money in there won't be any debt owed to him then - but the facts are that there is.
If it was possible to run the club on gate receipts, sponsorship, money from the FA or League you'd expect that there'd be buyers tripping over themselves to take us over - but the facts are Raj was the only one willing to step in when we were on the edge. Further he has told us that since he put the club up for sale there has been only 1 bid from a cobbled together mystery consortium. Obviously the club is therefore not self sustainable at present so money must be coming from Raj even if its in the form of debt.
So until someone with cash to burn and likes a gamble comes along we've got to hope that we fall lucky with players and managers, that's the reality of the situation.

That’s what it boils down to for most clubs, it always has been .

No that's not the most significant difference. Its evidently possible to be more successful then we are without finding a pools fan with quite that degree of wealth and a will to use it to propel their beloved HUFC up the divisions. We know exactly what Pools are lacking.

And exactly what is that?

no, mark stott is not a lifelong stockport fan or lives in the town. he is a man. city fan like his family where. he was pursueded to put his money into the club by someone else in the same way the accrington owner was who although born in the town with a big business there had never been to a game before. these people might not be the norm in todays football world but they do exist. its just finding one for us, but everyone i know has small bank balances.

Ah the old "defending Raj " jibe. Funny how that always comes out when you're stuck for an answer.
I'm not peddling what he does or not with his personal wealth so have nothing to prove on the matter. You're the one who brought it up but when asked about it gave your usual "Raj defender " answer.
However your answer tells me that, like the rest of us, you know sod all about the man's personal wealth or what he does with it so I won't waste any more of our time asking you about it.

Not like Jamie to peddle fake news.

My news is not fake news,
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... n-17582352

No one said it was. Like I say it is not like you to peddle fake news.
It is a compliment, you need to really address this persecution complex that Snowy refers to as Victimhood.

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Ah the old "defending Raj " jibe. Funny how that always comes out when you're stuck for an answer.
I'm not peddling what he does or not with his personal wealth so have nothing to prove on the matter. You're the one who brought it up but when asked about it gave your usual "Raj defender " answer.
However your answer tells me that, like the rest of us, you know sod all about the man's personal wealth or what he does with it so I won't waste any more of our time asking you about it.[/quote]


You DO have a pretty clear agenda when it comes to Raj. Don't be embarrassed, most of us do too its just not the same as yours.

PTID and Snowys argument always boils down to , nothing we can do about it so no point talking about it-which obviously they are entitled to, but for people who claim apathy is the best approach to the current regime/chairman boy do they jump on EVERY thread that mentions him....

And some jump on every thread regardless of topic and turn it into an attack on him.........

Ah the old "defending Raj " jibe. Funny how that always comes out when you're stuck for an answer.
I'm not peddling what he does or not with his personal wealth so have nothing to prove on the matter. You're the one who brought it up but when asked about it gave your usual "Raj defender " answer.
However your answer tells me that, like the rest of us, you know sod all about the man's personal wealth or what he does with it so I won't waste any more of our time asking you about it.[/quote]


You DO have a pretty clear agenda when it comes to Raj. Don't be embarrassed, most of us do too its just not the same as yours.[/quote]

I know you would like me to have an agenda but i'm afraid I don't. I have two concerns on here, Hartlepool United and protecting the bunker. Of course you know that already deep down. I am neither for Raj or against him. I don't attack him and I don't defend him. I can't do anything about his tenure at Pools so I don't try to. I jump on things where my judgement tells me we are leaving ourselves open. You also know that as well and you know what my motive is and that motive is to defend the bunker not Raj and by frowning on personal attacks on him it is the bunker I'm defending. I don't want litigation of any kind. You know all of this so your mischief making against me I just laugh off. You know that as well.
As for me being embarrassed......gimme a break. It would take a whole lot more than you or Raj to embarrass moi. You play your little game as long as you want and make up as much shite about my motives as you like. I know and you know what the truth is.
You like to play the big philosopher but I just shake my head and laugh cos, being brutally honest, you're not very good at it. I don't want to hurt your ego but sometimes when you stick your neck out I get the old urge....if you know what I mean.
You're a good lad and your heart is in the right place and like me, you are a passionate Poolie. Where we differ is you like to attack the club and it's owner ( they are after all one and the same) and I don't. Every now and again you tempt me to open up with your misguided jibes but they are not good enough or subtle enough to make me put the bunker in the firing line. I have a responsibility to you and all of our members and I take that too seriously to dive in.
Sorry mate but keep trying it is at least amusing as well as a load of nonsense.

What they do is quite clear and simple. They consider the options and come down on the side of reality. No more and no less.
I know it is frustrating for people who want to give vent to their feelings but look at it another way. You come up with an alternative that will work. An alternative that will get people to go along with you and you will find those two and me and others will say yippee let's do it.
We all want what's best for the club and success on the pitch, no argument mate.
Abuse, criticism and hate haven't worked, HE IS STILL HERE.
There has got to be another way and collectively we have to find it. I don't know how many times I have said that but I will keep on saying it until someone comes up with an answer we can all identify with.

Only other way would be to start a phoenix club from ground up but no one really wants to do that as there is too much emotional investment in the current set up from down the years----the point I am making is if you didnt dicuss anything you couldnt actually change then this board would shut down in a week---and its only the chairman that approach is taken with.
I don't see after every questionable refereeing decision or substitution the same characters coming on and saying 'no point talking about it as we cant change it' so curious this is the one topic they are so feverently closed off to discussing...

OK what are you gonna do to change things ?
While you’re at it kindly remind me where I praised Raj….?
Tolerance is not approval in the way words without action are worthless.

I don’t say it because it’s a fact.
You go on about discussion but have no options on the table to offer for…discussion, you seem to be searching for someone else.
Discuss away with my full backing, no one’s stopping you. Crack on.

what are you gonna do about people drinking expensive coffee or the state of politics etc..---yet you post an opinion on it as is your right-why this arbitrary rule you have made up, seemingly exclusively for the topic of running the club that unless you can effect change then there is no point talking about it?