Migrants update

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

I’m a confirmed floating voter but my problem is are we resetting to Net zero when Labour get in, that is the topic that will be my decider because it’s gonna cost everybody a fecking packet.
The rest I can live with.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3456

Angela Rayner wants Diane Abbott back in the fold,Snowy..a lot to look forward to, eh. :laugh:

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Sussex UK wrote:

Angela Rayner wants Diane Abbott back in the fold,Snowy..a lot to look forward to, eh. :laugh:

As what?

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3456

Snowy wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Angela Rayner wants Diane Abbott back in the fold,Snowy..a lot to look forward to, eh. :laugh:

As what?

MP first..Starmer gets pushed aside.. everybody at Calais is a hard working Doctor really...and the UK population increases by a million people a year ..it's all on the cards..

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18921

Sussex UK wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Angela Rayner wants Diane Abbott back in the fold,Snowy..a lot to look forward to, eh. :laugh:

As what?

MP first..Starmer gets pushed aside.. everybody at Calais is a hard working Doctor really...and the UK population increases by a million people a year ..it's all on the cards..

surely we need abdul the yak herder to do a six weeks crash course in brain surgery to save the NHS.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18921

Dustin Gee wrote:

I'd like to twist. Nothing and nobody can be as bad as the last few years.

remember we have been saying just the same about pools and new managers over the last few years. anything can get worse until the majority will of the population is listened to instead of every single minority we now have who seem to be running the show.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7064

accrington fan wrote:

Dustin Gee wrote:

I'd like to twist. Nothing and nobody can be as bad as the last few years.

remember we have been saying just the same about pools and new managers over the last few years. anything can get worse until the majority will of the population is listened to instead of every single minority we now have who seem to be running the show.

Going by the number who bother to vote the majority don’t appear to be interested in who governs the U.K., compulsory voting should be introduced then no one can complain, proportional representation might be a good idea as well.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

Aye as me owld dad used to say.
When you get rid of one lot of politicians all you can guarantee is that they will be replaced with another lot of politicians.
Party first, Country somewhere after that and not necessarily second, and the people well they fit in where we can find a place for them.
Anybody think we will fare better than that????
Good luck if you do.
To hear people talk a new government is going to take us to Utopia. It won't happen because it's fantasy, the place doesn't exist.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18921

derwent wrote:

Aye as me owld dad used to say.
When you get rid of one lot of politicians all you can guarantee is that they will be replaced with another lot of politicians.
Party first, Country somewhere after that and not necessarily second, and the people well they fit in where we can find a place for them.
Anybody think we will fare better than that????
Good luck if you do.
To hear people talk a new government is going to take us to Utopia. It won't happen because it's fantasy, the place doesn't exist.

bob hope, bing crosby and dorothy lammur found it in their 40,s musical road film.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

accrington fan wrote:

derwent wrote:

Aye as me owld dad used to say.
When you get rid of one lot of politicians all you can guarantee is that they will be replaced with another lot of politicians.
Party first, Country somewhere after that and not necessarily second, and the people well they fit in where we can find a place for them.
Anybody think we will fare better than that????
Good luck if you do.
To hear people talk a new government is going to take us to Utopia. It won't happen because it's fantasy, the place doesn't exist.

bob hope, bing crosby and dorothy lammur found it in their 40,s musical road film.

In other words in the land of make believe, sums it up perfectly. :laugh:

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18921

exactly.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Jamie1952 wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

Dustin Gee wrote:

I'd like to twist. Nothing and nobody can be as bad as the last few years.

remember we have been saying just the same about pools and new managers over the last few years. anything can get worse until the majority will of the population is listened to instead of every single minority we now have who seem to be running the show.

Going by the number who bother to vote the majority don’t appear to be interested in who governs the U.K., compulsory voting should be introduced then no one can complain, proportional representation might be a good idea as well.

When people are disillusioned by all politicians, it’s the politicians who need to look in the mirror.
ALL Party’s listen feverishly to the noisy 2% and ignore the Elephant in the room.
If compulsory voting came in there’s ways of short circuiting it, personally I‘d vote for some obscure party….that’s if the ‘West Hartlepool Axe throwers and Freelance Castrators Party’ are putting a candidate up to begin with.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18921

wonder if the french government will listen to their residents about the elephant in the room with yesterdays shootings of prison guards when the name of the prison was realesed by the gang. a name i never heard off hello hello. france yesterday the UK tomorrow.

Kebab&chips · **Joined:** Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:20 pm **Posts:** 171

Jamie1952 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Stirring speech by Yvette Cooper about Border Control and Customs and how much money Rwanda is costing and will cost, the scheme should be scrapped and the money used to pay for extra staff.
It’s free to watch, some on here think you have to pay to watch YouTube, you do if you want to watch advert free.
https://youtu.be/pAU26MQacpI?si=iX-V54NSQ603rj-I

You a Starmer shill Jamie….?
Yvette Cooper has never made a stirring speech in her life, all voter friendly tosh for the gullible. Leopards don’t change their spots, they’ll revert to form when in power and let the the boats continue…plus the massive legal immigration…the Tory’s are shite, but Labour ain’t gonna improve the situation one jot.
Anyone who thinks things are going to get better on the boats under Starmer is taking too many recreational drugs.

Everything she said was true or did you actually bother to watch the video, I doubt it, no one can stop the boats fact or even discourage them, these are desperate people.

Who are you a fan of Snowy, Tice, Farage, Rees Mogg, Cameron, Johnson, Sunak, Truss etc you sound like a right wing voter with a deep hatred with anything connected to the Labour Party.

Labour aren’t in power so there is no way you can predict what will happen, it can’t be any worse than the last 14 years under the Tories.

Desperate people? yeah ok.
They all look fit,well fed,dress in nice clothes,nice trainers & all seem to have a mobile phone.
That is not a sign of desperation for me.
They come because they know they’ll be looked after for 2 years before having to look for a job.
Free good accommodation,free food,free medicine,the mobile dentist will visit,so they don’t even have the trouble of leaving their free accommodation.
Some of them are even being provided with free e-bikes,by the nearly bankrupt Nottingham Council.
You couldn’t make it up.

SomethingClever · **Joined:** Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:16 pm **Posts:** 79

I’m curious as to which of the conventions and protections afforded in the ECHR you find so deplorable that mean that we must join Belarus and Russia as the only European countries not covered by the EHCR? So bad that you’d tear up the good Friday agreement which relies on the participation in the EHCR.

The rawanda scheme is nothing more than a performative gimmick that does nothing to remotely address the problem. They created the backlog to have a scapegoat to distract from the dire state of most areas of the country. Economy in a recession, child poverty levels are record highs, local authorities going bankrupt, record food bank levels, rising unemployment, cost of living crisis, immigration uncontrolled, first parliamentary period on record where people are worse off at the end than the start, record waiting times in the NHS, social care on its knees, billions of ££ of covid debt not being chased, etc. etc. etc.

But yes, let’s blame the migrants (who in the vast majority of circumstances are successful in their asylum claims when they’re finally processed), or blame the rainbow lanyards, or someone in the trans community as the thing that really needs to be blamed and focused on.

MutleyRules · **Joined:** Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:38 am **Posts:** 974

SomethingClever wrote:

I’m curious as to which of the conventions and protections afforded in the ECHR you find so deplorable that mean that we must join Belarus and Russia as the only European countries not covered by the EHCR? So bad that you’d tear up the good Friday agreement which relies on the participation in the EHCR.

The rawanda scheme is nothing more than a performative gimmick that does nothing to remotely address the problem. They created the backlog to have a scapegoat to distract from the dire state of most areas of the country. Economy in a recession, child poverty levels are record highs, local authorities going bankrupt, record food bank levels, rising unemployment, cost of living crisis, immigration uncontrolled, first parliamentary period on record where people are worse off at the end than the start, record waiting times in the NHS, social care on its knees, billions of ££ of covid debt not being chased, etc. etc. etc.

But yes, let’s blame the migrants (who in the vast majority of circumstances are successful in their asylum claims when they’re finally processed), or blame the rainbow lanyards, or someone in the trans community as the thing that really needs to be blamed and focused on.

What a breath of fresh air. Brilliant post. :clap:

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

SomethingClever wrote:

I’m curious as to which of the conventions and protections afforded in the ECHR you find so deplorable that mean that we must join Belarus and Russia as the only European countries not covered by the EHCR? So bad that you’d tear up the good Friday agreement which relies on the participation in the EHCR.

The rawanda scheme is nothing more than a performative gimmick that does nothing to remotely address the problem. They created the backlog to have a scapegoat to distract from the dire state of most areas of the country. Economy in a recession, child poverty levels are record highs, local authorities going bankrupt, record food bank levels, rising unemployment, cost of living crisis, immigration uncontrolled, first parliamentary period on record where people are worse off at the end than the start, record waiting times in the NHS, social care on its knees, billions of ££ of covid debt not being chased, etc. etc. etc.

But yes, let’s blame the migrants (who in the vast majority of circumstances are successful in their asylum claims when they’re finally processed), or blame the rainbow lanyards, or someone in the trans community as the thing that really needs to be blamed and focused on.

The two are not related in my eyes and Personally never blamed anyone from out side the country for our internal problems…..but….how many people would you actually allow into the country…..
What has ‘trans community’ got to do with anything in this respect ?

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

Snowy wrote:

SomethingClever wrote:

I’m curious as to which of the conventions and protections afforded in the ECHR you find so deplorable that mean that we must join Belarus and Russia as the only European countries not covered by the EHCR? So bad that you’d tear up the good Friday agreement which relies on the participation in the EHCR.

The rawanda scheme is nothing more than a performative gimmick that does nothing to remotely address the problem. They created the backlog to have a scapegoat to distract from the dire state of most areas of the country. Economy in a recession, child poverty levels are record highs, local authorities going bankrupt, record food bank levels, rising unemployment, cost of living crisis, immigration uncontrolled, first parliamentary period on record where people are worse off at the end than the start, record waiting times in the NHS, social care on its knees, billions of ££ of covid debt not being chased, etc. etc. etc.

But yes, let’s blame the migrants (who in the vast majority of circumstances are successful in their asylum claims when they’re finally processed), or blame the rainbow lanyards, or someone in the trans community as the thing that really needs to be blamed and focused on.

The two are not related in my eyes and Personally never blamed anyone from out side the country for our internal problems…..but….how many people would you actually allow into the country…..
What has ‘trans community’ got to do with anything in this respect ?

Yes this country is in such a terrible state that hundreds of thousands of people are illegally invading it and risking life and limb to come here.
Obviously Mr Something clever is pissed off with the place to such an extent he is making his exit for pastures new, thus ridding himself of all the woes he listed, although the economy is not in recession, it is currently growing according to the stats that measure these things.
Let me be the first to wish Mr SC well in his quest to find a better life and surroundings. Good luck mate. Try and keep us up to date with your progress.
I'll be staying here in this horrible land of my Fathers, simply because I have travelled elsewhere and nowhere I've seen has tempted me away from our green and pleasant land.
And nowhere has a football club who attracts my passion that Hartlepool United does.
I'll put up with the squalor, hunger, deprivation, cost of living,lack of health and social care, crime, etc etc, oh and even the bloody weather. :laugh:

Good luck to all who decide to chance their arm in the other man's green and luscious grass.
Mind start depriving me of me pint and my views will change. :angry-tappingfoot:

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18921

SomethingClever wrote:

I’m curious as to which of the conventions and protections afforded in the ECHR you find so deplorable that mean that we must join Belarus and Russia as the only European countries not covered by the EHCR? So bad that you’d tear up the good Friday agreement which relies on the participation in the EHCR.

The rawanda scheme is nothing more than a performative gimmick that does nothing to remotely address the problem. They created the backlog to have a scapegoat to distract from the dire state of most areas of the country. Economy in a recession, child poverty levels are record highs, local authorities going bankrupt, record food bank levels, rising unemployment, cost of living crisis, immigration uncontrolled, first parliamentary period on record where people are worse off at the end than the start, record waiting times in the NHS, social care on its knees, billions of ££ of covid debt not being chased, etc. etc. etc.

But yes, let’s blame the migrants (who in the vast majority of circumstances are successful in their asylum claims when they’re finally processed), or blame the rainbow lanyards, or someone in the trans community as the thing that really needs to be blamed and focused on.

surely adding more migrants and the costs involved are not helping with the problems that we already have. you mention a rise in unemployment. if that is true then one of the reasons for having more to add to the figures make no sense whatsoever and at this moment of time one extra person into the country makes our other problems just one person worse.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

accrington fan wrote:

SomethingClever wrote:

I’m curious as to which of the conventions and protections afforded in the ECHR you find so deplorable that mean that we must join Belarus and Russia as the only European countries not covered by the EHCR? So bad that you’d tear up the good Friday agreement which relies on the participation in the EHCR.

The rawanda scheme is nothing more than a performative gimmick that does nothing to remotely address the problem. They created the backlog to have a scapegoat to distract from the dire state of most areas of the country. Economy in a recession, child poverty levels are record highs, local authorities going bankrupt, record food bank levels, rising unemployment, cost of living crisis, immigration uncontrolled, first parliamentary period on record where people are worse off at the end than the start, record waiting times in the NHS, social care on its knees, billions of ££ of covid debt not being chased, etc. etc. etc.

But yes, let’s blame the migrants (who in the vast majority of circumstances are successful in their asylum claims when they’re finally processed), or blame the rainbow lanyards, or someone in the trans community as the thing that really needs to be blamed and focused on.

surely adding more migrants and the costs involved are not helping with the problems that we already have. you mention a rise in unemployment. if that is true then one of the reasons for having more to add to the figures make no sense whatsoever and at this moment of time one extra person into the country makes our other problems just one person worse.

Good point Mr Accy. You can add the extra burden on the NHS, Education, Housing etc etc, all of which are an extra burden on the public purse, which incidently these people haven't contributed a penny to.
Then there is law and order. They arrive here by breaking the law so chances are they might consider exploiting that route even further.
But hey Kier is mounting his white charger as we speak so all bodes well.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18921

they arrive hear by breaking the law but are the ones who have the money to do it unlike many from their country who have the wish to do it but not the cash. not exactly what you think a downtrodden asylum seeker avoiding persecution actually is. good idea who would be making the opposite journey from this country to another would be. it aint going to be the rough sleeper or the family man living on the breadline.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3456

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... olicy.html

Congratulations Geert..'forcibly removed' ..that's how you treat criminals.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3456

Kebab&chips wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Stirring speech by Yvette Cooper about Border Control and Customs and how much money Rwanda is costing and will cost, the scheme should be scrapped and the money used to pay for extra staff.
It’s free to watch, some on here think you have to pay to watch YouTube, you do if you want to watch advert free.
https://youtu.be/pAU26MQacpI?si=iX-V54NSQ603rj-I

You a Starmer shill Jamie….?
Yvette Cooper has never made a stirring speech in her life, all voter friendly tosh for the gullible. Leopards don’t change their spots, they’ll revert to form when in power and let the the boats continue…plus the massive legal immigration…the Tory’s are shite, but Labour ain’t gonna improve the situation one jot.
Anyone who thinks things are going to get better on the boats under Starmer is taking too many recreational drugs.

Everything she said was true or did you actually bother to watch the video, I doubt it, no one can stop the boats fact or even discourage them, these are desperate people.

Who are you a fan of Snowy, Tice, Farage, Rees Mogg, Cameron, Johnson, Sunak, Truss etc you sound like a right wing voter with a deep hatred with anything connected to the Labour Party.

Labour aren’t in power so there is no way you can predict what will happen, it can’t be any worse than the last 14 years under the Tories.

Desperate people? yeah ok.
They all look fit,well fed,dress in nice clothes,nice trainers & all seem to have a mobile phone.
That is not a sign of desperation for me.
They come because they know they’ll be looked after for 2 years before having to look for a job.
Free good accommodation,free food,free medicine,the mobile dentist will visit,so they don’t even have the trouble of leaving their free accommodation.
Some of them are even being provided with free e-bikes,by the nearly bankrupt Nottingham Council.
You couldn’t make it up.

Why are they always shouting on their phones every time i pass one in the street?

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18921

Sussex UK wrote:

Kebab&chips wrote:

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Desperate people? yeah ok.
They all look fit,well fed,dress in nice clothes,nice trainers & all seem to have a mobile phone.
That is not a sign of desperation for me.
They come because they know they’ll be looked after for 2 years before having to look for a job.
Free good accommodation,free food,free medicine,the mobile dentist will visit,so they don’t even have the trouble of leaving their free accommodation.
Some of them are even being provided with free e-bikes,by the nearly bankrupt Nottingham Council.
You couldn’t make it up.

Why are they always shouting on their phones every time i pass one in the street?

yes, and where do they get them from after chucking their original ones in the channel along with any documents they had if they had nothing whatsoever to hide. bet there are plenty of people born and bred in this country who would like a better phone or bike but have no do gooders to provide them with one. i,d take it a step further by saying the ones who provide these would not dream of doing the same for a neighbour in the shit financially especially if they had a white face. thats too much like looking after your own thats not as fashionable as it one was.

MutleyRules · **Joined:** Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:38 am **Posts:** 974

Flippin'eck, it's like the letters page of the Daily Mail on here.
No wonder loads of the original Bunker Members left en masse a few years ago.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Dustin Gee wrote:

Flippin'eck, it's like the letters page of the Daily Mail on here.
No wonder loads of the original Bunker Members left en masse a few years ago.

But have they really left…….?

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

Dustin Gee wrote:

Flippin'eck, it's like the letters page of the Daily Mail on here.
No wonder loads of the original Bunker Members left en masse a few years ago.

And you were one of them but here you are back amongst us, as are others.
People are voicing their thoughts and opinions on a very sticky matter to us all. No one is asking you to agree but it is very grown up and sensible to accept that people may have a different opinion to you and it is also very sensible and grown up to respect that opinion even though you may not agree with it. I'd hazard a guess that you would find it extremely difficult to find a Daily Mail letter writer on here. Personally I wouldn't have the rag in my house and have never ever bought it. You have your little snipe if that makes your clock tick but I suggest you couldn't be further from reality.
As I recall some of the members who had a hissy fit and took their bat home only had time for one opinion.....theirs.
Everyone is welcome on the bunker full stop, just as everyone is free to leave. We don't press gang anyone to join or stay. Just behave reasonably civilised.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Daily Mail eh….last time l read that was in 1973 at my hotel in Birmingham when one was delivered to your room every morning before breakfast….funnily enough it was the Yom Kippur War featuring on the front page….when the Egyptians, Syrians and Jordanians invaded Israel….didn’t end well. Somethings never change.
Our boss at breakfast told us some people just don’t get on. He had a point.

Porter and Boyd · **Posted:** Fri May 17, 2024 5:35 pm

We have imported the third world
Hartlepool is like the Gaza Strip now.
Fcking ridiculous

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3456

Snowy wrote:

Dustin Gee wrote:

Flippin'eck, it's like the letters page of the Daily Mail on here.
No wonder loads of the original Bunker Members left en masse a few years ago.

But have they really left…….?

They pretty much did what pj told them to do

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3456

Porter and Boyd wrote:

We have imported the third world
Hartlepool is like the Gaza Strip now.
Fcking ridiculous

Gone are the good old days when it was old ladies and gents who stepped off the coaches for a week's holiday down here and everyone felt safe walking round the town centre even at midnight ,bit different now..

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7064

I don’t think many have left, there is only a handful of members who post regularly on The Bunker, members are still out there but they stopped posting/commenting because everything they posted or commented on even if it was factually correct was met by belittling or spiteful replies from ‘the old guard’ if they didn’t agree with what they said,cyber bullying in modern day terms.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Jamie1952 wrote:

I don’t think many have left, there is only a handful of members who post regularly on The Bunker, members are still out there but they stopped posting/commenting because everything they posted or commented on even if it was factually correct was met by belittling or spiteful replies from ‘the old guard’ if they didn’t agree with what they said,cyber bullying in modern day terms.

Are you serious? They were perfectly capable of defending themselves in any argument ……certainly not shy at coming forward in all the years they were on here.
As regards your pet hate of ‘cyber bullying’ ……being a vigorous debater is what it’s all about and losing or winning a debate is not ‘bullying’…..so stop trying to defend poor debating skills as evidence of victimhood.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3456

Dustin Gee wrote:

Flippin'eck, it's like the letters page of the Daily Mail on here.
.

I'll take a guess at what the main headline of today's hpool mail is eh.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8915

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

I don’t think many have left, there is only a handful of members who post regularly on The Bunker, members are still out there but they stopped posting/commenting because everything they posted or commented on even if it was factually correct was met by belittling or spiteful replies from ‘the old guard’ if they didn’t agree with what they said,cyber bullying in modern day terms.

Are you serious? They were perfectly capable of defending themselves in any argument ……certainly not shy at coming forward in all the years they were on here.
As regards your pet hate of ‘cyber bullying’ ……being a vigorous debater is what it’s all about and losing or winning a debate is not ‘bullying’…..so stop trying to defend poor debating skills as evidence of victimhood.

You must be the only poster who thinks having a different opinion to someone else is winning or losing.
Have you ever lost a debate?
Of course you havent therethere

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8915

Porter and Boyd wrote:

We have imported the third world
Hartlepool is like the Gaza Strip now.
Fcking ridiculous

Getting worse by the week.
Soon be like Leicester n Bradford. :angry-tappingfoot:

and Bangladesh / Africa.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

I don’t think many have left, there is only a handful of members who post regularly on The Bunker, members are still out there but they stopped posting/commenting because everything they posted or commented on even if it was factually correct was met by belittling or spiteful replies from ‘the old guard’ if they didn’t agree with what they said,cyber bullying in modern day terms.

Are you serious? They were perfectly capable of defending themselves in any argument ……certainly not shy at coming forward in all the years they were on here.
As regards your pet hate of ‘cyber bullying’ ……being a vigorous debater is what it’s all about and losing or winning a debate is not ‘bullying’…..so stop trying to defend poor debating skills as evidence of victimhood.

You must be the only poster who thinks having a different opinion to someone else is winning or losing.
Have you ever lost a debate?
Of course you havent therethere

This is a message board where debates take place, that’s the idea.
Life’s about winning or losing……you yourself and others place great store by winning every time Pools play and losing is taboo….you tell us frequently do you not?
I’m only playing with words and debating is about winning, that is the term used in debate, y’know, ‘winning’ the argument…..it has been since time immemorial …it’s about opinions or it wouldn’t be called…debating.
Nice try…..but it’s exactly what YOU do when you argue your viewpoint about the running of the club.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3456

Jamie1952 wrote:

I don’t think many have left, there is only a handful of members who post regularly on The Bunker, members are still out there but they stopped posting/commenting because everything they posted or commented on even if it was factually correct was met by belittling or spiteful replies from ‘the old guard’ if they didn’t agree with what they said,cyber bullying in modern day terms.

Put up and shut up about the illegals was their message.. discussion wasn't allowed

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8915

Snowy wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

I don’t think many have left, there is only a handful of members who post regularly on The Bunker, members are still out there but they stopped posting/commenting because everything they posted or commented on even if it was factually correct was met by belittling or spiteful replies from ‘the old guard’ if they didn’t agree with what they said,cyber bullying in modern day terms.

Are you serious? They were perfectly capable of defending themselves in any argument ……certainly not shy at coming forward in all the years they were on here.
As regards your pet hate of ‘cyber bullying’ ……being a vigorous debater is what it’s all about and losing or winning a debate is not ‘bullying’…..so stop trying to defend poor debating skills as evidence of victimhood.

You must be the only poster who thinks having a different opinion to someone else is winning or losing.
Have you ever lost a debate?
Of course you havent therethere

This is a message board where debates take place, that’s the idea.
Life’s about winning or losing……you yourself and others place great store by winning every time Pools play and losing is taboo….you tell us frequently do you not?
I’m only playing with words and debating is about winning, that is the term used in debate, y’know, ‘winning’ the argument…..it has been since time immemorial …it’s about opinions or it wouldn’t be called…debating.
Nice try…..but it’s exactly what YOU do when you argue your viewpoint about the running of the club.

Cheers for the capital letters :clap:

The suns due out at midday. Reckon we both Gunna have a good day.
UTP

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Snowy wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

I don’t think many have left, there is only a handful of members who post regularly on The Bunker, members are still out there but they stopped posting/commenting because everything they posted or commented on even if it was factually correct was met by belittling or spiteful replies from ‘the old guard’ if they didn’t agree with what they said,cyber bullying in modern day terms.

Are you serious? They were perfectly capable of defending themselves in any argument ……certainly not shy at coming forward in all the years they were on here.
As regards your pet hate of ‘cyber bullying’ ……being a vigorous debater is what it’s all about and losing or winning a debate is not ‘bullying’…..so stop trying to defend poor debating skills as evidence of victimhood.

You must be the only poster who thinks having a different opinion to someone else is winning or losing.
Have you ever lost a debate?
Of course you havent therethere

This is a message board where debates take place, that’s the idea.
Life’s about winning or losing……you yourself and others place great store by winning every time Pools play and losing is taboo….you tell us frequently do you not?
I’m only playing with words and debating is about winning, that is the term used in debate, y’know, ‘winning’ the argument…..it has been since time immemorial …it’s about opinions or it wouldn’t be called…debating.
Nice try…..but it’s exactly what YOU do when you argue your viewpoint about the running of the club.

Cheers for the capital letters :clap:

The suns due out at midday. Reckon we both Gunna have a good day.
UTP

I still like yer Kev…..got up early to take the hounds out and one of my sons turns up to take them out on a trek…….hmmm bored now…..get the kettle on.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18921

like every subject on here if people have a different viewpoint they can easily post it. its when it gets personal is where problems lie.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18921

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Porter and Boyd wrote:

We have imported the third world
Hartlepool is like the Gaza Strip now.
Fcking ridiculous

Getting worse by the week.
Soon be like Leicester n Bradford. :angry-tappingfoot:

and Bangladesh / Africa.

possibly you have had it too easy for too long and know now what many of us have had to put up with for years. you have seen nothing yet and eventually there will be nowhere to move to avoid it. one thing is if you live near a chippy you will not need to bother as more spicy smells will be drifting into your living rooms shortly on more regular intervals.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

accrington fan wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Porter and Boyd wrote:

We have imported the third world
Hartlepool is like the Gaza Strip now.
Fcking ridiculous

Getting worse by the week.
Soon be like Leicester n Bradford. :angry-tappingfoot:

and Bangladesh / Africa.

possibly you have had it too easy for too long and know now what many of us have had to put up with for years. you have seen nothing yet and eventually there will be nowhere to move to avoid it. one thing is if you live near a chippy you will not need to bother as more spicy smells will be drifting into your living rooms shortly on more regular intervals.

If anybody doubts what Mr Accy is saying just have a walk from Bradford Forster St Station up Manningham Lane to Bradford City's Valley Parade.
Word of advice, take a nose peg with you.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7064

Snowy wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

I don’t think many have left, there is only a handful of members who post regularly on The Bunker, members are still out there but they stopped posting/commenting because everything they posted or commented on even if it was factually correct was met by belittling or spiteful replies from ‘the old guard’ if they didn’t agree with what they said,cyber bullying in modern day terms.

Are you serious? They were perfectly capable of defending themselves in any argument ……certainly not shy at coming forward in all the years they were on here.
As regards your pet hate of ‘cyber bullying’ ……being a vigorous debater is what it’s all about and losing or winning a debate is not ‘bullying’…..so stop trying to defend poor debating skills as evidence of victimhood.

You must be the only poster who thinks having a different opinion to someone else is winning or losing.
Have you ever lost a debate?
Of course you havent therethere

This is a message board where debates take place, that’s the idea.
Life’s about winning or losing……you yourself and others place great store by winning every time Pools play and losing is taboo….you tell us frequently do you not?
I’m only playing with words and debating is about winning, that is the term used in debate, y’know, ‘winning’ the argument…..it has been since time immemorial …it’s about opinions or it wouldn’t be called…debating.
Nice try…..but it’s exactly what YOU do when you argue your viewpoint about the running of the club.

Snowy you are one of the worst offenders, if you don’t agree with some one’s opinion they get the wrath of your tongue, there is only one opinion yours end of.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Jamie1952 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

I don’t think many have left, there is only a handful of members who post regularly on The Bunker, members are still out there but they stopped posting/commenting because everything they posted or commented on even if it was factually correct was met by belittling or spiteful replies from ‘the old guard’ if they didn’t agree with what they said,cyber bullying in modern day terms.

Are you serious? They were perfectly capable of defending themselves in any argument ……certainly not shy at coming forward in all the years they were on here.
As regards your pet hate of ‘cyber bullying’ ……being a vigorous debater is what it’s all about and losing or winning a debate is not ‘bullying’…..so stop trying to defend poor debating skills as evidence of victimhood.

You must be the only poster who thinks having a different opinion to someone else is winning or losing.
Have you ever lost a debate?
Of course you havent therethere

This is a message board where debates take place, that’s the idea.
Life’s about winning or losing……you yourself and others place great store by winning every time Pools play and losing is taboo….you tell us frequently do you not?
I’m only playing with words and debating is about winning, that is the term used in debate, y’know, ‘winning’ the argument…..it has been since time immemorial …it’s about opinions or it wouldn’t be called…debating.
Nice try…..but it’s exactly what YOU do when you argue your viewpoint about the running of the club.

Snowy you are one of the worst offenders, if you don’t agree with some one’s opinion they get the wrath of your tongue, there is only one opinion yours end of.

Are you still wittering on ….

It’s the bunker, not some gentlemen’s club in Pall Mall, take a rain check.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

Please miss can I stay inside at playtime they're all picking on me.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

derwent wrote:

Please miss can I stay inside at playtime they're all picking on me.

Who gave him the Chinese burn. Come on Derwent ….own up. :angry-tappingfoot:

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Sussex UK wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

I don’t think many have left, there is only a handful of members who post regularly on The Bunker, members are still out there but they stopped posting/commenting because everything they posted or commented on even if it was factually correct was met by belittling or spiteful replies from ‘the old guard’ if they didn’t agree with what they said,cyber bullying in modern day terms.

Put up and shut up about the illegals was their message.. discussion wasn't allowed

Watched the summing up by the judge at sentencing yesterday about our local killing and it certainly opened my eyes.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22568

SomethingClever wrote:

I’m curious as to which of the conventions and protections afforded in the ECHR you find so deplorable that mean that we must join Belarus and Russia as the only European countries not covered by the EHCR? So bad that you’d tear up the good Friday agreement which relies on the participation in the EHCR.

The rawanda scheme is nothing more than a performative gimmick that does nothing to remotely address the problem. They created the backlog to have a scapegoat to distract from the dire state of most areas of the country. Economy in a recession, child poverty levels are record highs, local authorities going bankrupt, record food bank levels, rising unemployment, cost of living crisis, immigration uncontrolled, first parliamentary period on record where people are worse off at the end than the start, record waiting times in the NHS, social care on its knees, billions of ££ of covid debt not being chased, etc. etc. etc.

But yes, let’s blame the migrants (who in the vast majority of circumstances are successful in their asylum claims when they’re finally processed), or blame the rainbow lanyards, or someone in the trans community as the thing that really needs to be blamed and focused on.

Why on earth is everyone so worried about the Good Friday agreement. It was nonsense and only accepted by the IRA/SF because they were comprehensively beaten.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

derwent wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Porter and Boyd wrote:

We have imported the third world
Hartlepool is like the Gaza Strip now.
Fcking ridiculous

Getting worse by the week.
Soon be like Leicester n Bradford. :angry-tappingfoot:

and Bangladesh / Africa.

possibly you have had it too easy for too long and know now what many of us have had to put up with for years. you have seen nothing yet and eventually there will be nowhere to move to avoid it. one thing is if you live near a chippy you will not need to bother as more spicy smells will be drifting into your living rooms shortly on more regular intervals.

If anybody doubts what Mr Accy is saying just have a walk from Bradford Forster St Station up Manningham Lane to Bradford City's Valley Parade.
Word of advice, take a nose peg with you.

Its not diversity if everyone you are bringing in is from the same place---people making the decisions are insulated from the negative consequences so get to pat themselves on the back as though they are some racial champion while they make people who live in this countries life steadily worse.
Add to that the attempted brain washing of the younger generation, and the relatively low birth rates in the native demograpgh and you have a recipe for a nation imploding on itself.

Migrants update

Gadgies online