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 Post subject: Re: Migrants update
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:04 am 
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These figures here are eye watering and they are from a government source, no wonder our services are collapsing,
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... permission



And there's all that fruit and veg rotting in the fields through the lack of visas granted here mr j..


The fruit and veg rotting in the fields is because the Brits won’t work in the fields, they brought Europeans over during Freedom of Movement but Brexit scuppered that.
I do believe those waiting claims for asylum if fit for work should working instead of living on benefits.

The reason some Brits are not working in the fields or anywhere also is because non of the politicians will clamp down on those elements who won’t work by rejigging the benefits system.
Never mind importing Labour into the country when there’s a sizeable proportion of people sat on their fat backsides…caused by politicians with no backbone.


Need a proper government in to widen the gap between working and been complete lazy bastads. ( excluding the genuine 10% who need benefits).
Like I said before Reform wanting to raise the tax threshold to 20k.
Payed for by these job vacancies getting filled reducing benefits megarly.
And all these cranks on TV harping on about rather have better services. Well face up to the real world. They are fucked despite extortion council taxes and they always will be fcuked.
5 million quid a day to hotel these other lazy bastads from African etc..

Tories keep the rich rich.
Starmer got no answers n solutions and that stupid bitch RR who always swerves a dodgy question with no reply bullshit.

Vote Reform.
Get our England back to England for the English first.
Like every other country in the world. Looks after itself first.
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Well Kev, I’m coming round to that opinion too.

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i like the sound of reform but like the liberals years ago they can promise the earth knowing they,ll never get into power. i,d be shocked if they even got a single person elected even though they,ll come runners up in some places.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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These figures here are eye watering and they are from a government source, no wonder our services are collapsing,
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... permission



And there's all that fruit and veg rotting in the fields through the lack of visas granted here mr j..


The fruit and veg rotting in the fields is because the Brits won’t work in the fields, they brought Europeans over during Freedom of Movement but Brexit scuppered that.
I do believe those waiting claims for asylum if fit for work should working instead of living on benefits.

brits used to though, but that was in the days of cash in hand. cash in hand the working mans version of the rich tax loopholes.


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accrington fan wrote:
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These figures here are eye watering and they are from a government source, no wonder our services are collapsing,
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... permission



And there's all that fruit and veg rotting in the fields through the lack of visas granted here mr j..


The fruit and veg rotting in the fields is because the Brits won’t work in the fields, they brought Europeans over during Freedom of Movement but Brexit scuppered that.
I do believe those waiting claims for asylum if fit for work should working instead of living on benefits.

brits used to though, but that was in the days of cash in hand. cash in hand the working mans version of the rich tax loopholes.

Sounds like the rate for the job on veg and fruit picking just like care homes.
Seems most employers now want maximum return for least outlay…unless of course you have the sort of job that doesn’t involve and physical effort like staring out a computer screen.

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i like the sound of reform but like the liberals years ago they can promise the earth knowing they,ll never get into power. i,d be shocked if they even got a single person elected even though they,ll come runners up in some places.


What’s in Reforms manifesto and how many candidates can you name who will be standing in the G.E. ? If I was going to vote for Reform I would like to know who I would be voting for and what their proposals were to put the U.K. back on a the straight and narrow.


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I do believe those waiting claims for asylum if fit for work should working instead of living on benefits.[/quote]


We know nothing about the majority of them coming over.How many are on their countries police wanted lists?.Have you thought this one over mr j? sctatchinghead


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I do believe those waiting claims for asylum if fit for work should working instead of living on benefits.



We know nothing about the majority of them coming over.How many are on their countries police wanted lists?.Have you thought this one over mr j? sctatchinghead[/quote]
Exactly, we haven’t a clue who they are….trouble is you get the feeling those interviewing them are a cross between the Salvation Army and the the ‘League of Gullible Well Do’ers’……what fools we’ve become.

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 Post subject: Re: Migrants update
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I do believe those waiting claims for asylum if fit for work should working instead of living on benefits.



We know nothing about the majority of them coming over.How many are on their countries police wanted lists?.Have you thought this one over mr j? sctatchinghead

Exactly, we haven’t a clue who they are….trouble is you get the feeling those interviewing them are a cross between the Salvation Army and the the ‘League of Gullible Well Do’ers’……what fools we’ve become.[/quote]

Absolutely plus the fact there is a huge backlog so they are allowing people into the country without checking thoroughly because it is quicker. Another reason I suspect is because a lot of the newer Civil Servant have been through our University system which is now dominated by the hard left so they will approach their work with an activist mentality.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
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I do believe those waiting claims for asylum if fit for work should working instead of living on benefits.



We know nothing about the majority of them coming over.How many are on their countries police wanted lists?.Have you thought this one over mr j? sctatchinghead

Exactly, we haven’t a clue who they are….trouble is you get the feeling those interviewing them are a cross between the Salvation Army and the the ‘League of Gullible Well Do’ers’……what fools we’ve become.


Absolutely plus the fact there is a huge backlog so they are allowing people into the country without checking thoroughly because it is quicker. Another reason I suspect is because a lot of the newer Civil Servant have been through our University system which is now dominated by the hard left so they will approach their work with an activist mentality.[/quote]

Unfortunately no background checks are available, what is the criteria for being granted asylum, how can you prove your life is in danger if you return to your native country ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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I do believe those waiting claims for asylum if fit for work should working instead of living on benefits.



We know nothing about the majority of them coming over.How many are on their countries police wanted lists?.Have you thought this one over mr j? sctatchinghead

Exactly, we haven’t a clue who they are….trouble is you get the feeling those interviewing them are a cross between the Salvation Army and the the ‘League of Gullible Well Do’ers’……what fools we’ve become.


Absolutely plus the fact there is a huge backlog so they are allowing people into the country without checking thoroughly because it is quicker. Another reason I suspect is because a lot of the newer Civil Servant have been through our University system which is now dominated by the hard left so they will approach their work with an activist mentality.


Unfortunately no background checks are available, what is the criteria for being granted asylum, how can you prove your life is in danger if you return to your native country ?[/quote]

The general rule in this country is if in doubt, let them in. Most other countries say if in doubt keep em out. This is why they are all so desperate to get their feet on the beaches of Dover or on the deck of a "Border Force" boat.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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i like the sound of reform but like the liberals years ago they can promise the earth knowing they,ll never get into power. i,d be shocked if they even got a single person elected even though they,ll come runners up in some places.


What’s in Reforms manifesto and how many candidates can you name who will be standing in the G.E. ? If I was going to vote for Reform I would like to know who I would be voting for and what their proposals were to put the U.K. back on a the straight and narrow.



They're on their official website ..Who in your opinion of all the parties is most likely to deliver on their promises mr j?


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[. Another reason I suspect is because a lot of the newer Civil Servant have been through our University system which is now dominated by the hard left so they will approach their work with an activist mentality.


I'd go along with that ,mr Oz.


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Sussex UK wrote:
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i like the sound of reform but like the liberals years ago they can promise the earth knowing they,ll never get into power. i,d be shocked if they even got a single person elected even though they,ll come runners up in some places.


What’s in Reforms manifesto and how many candidates can you name who will be standing in the G.E. ? If I was going to vote for Reform I would like to know who I would be voting for and what their proposals were to put the U.K. back on a the straight and narrow.



They're on their official website ..Who in your opinion of all the parties is most likely to deliver on their promises mr j?


None of them, as soon as they get elected it all changes.


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The general rule in this country is if in doubt, let them in. Most other countries say if in doubt keep em out. This is why they are all so desperate to get their feet on the beaches of Dover or on the deck of a "Border Force" boat.

you get the impression of that being correct but at the moment we are still well down on numbers coming here than other european countries get. its not as if the welcome mat is down for them there as they seem as popular in europe as they are here. the bigger problem that might arise is the fact that numbers could go up if these european countries cut down their arrivals and even help them to go to benefit island. cannot see any other country having less balls than we have.


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The general rule in this country is if in doubt, let them in. Most other countries say if in doubt keep em out. This is why they are all so desperate to get their feet on the beaches of Dover or on the deck of a "Border Force" boat.

you get the impression of that being correct but at the moment we are still well down on numbers coming here than other european countries get. its not as if the welcome mat is down for them there as they seem as popular in europe as they are here. the bigger problem that might arise is the fact that numbers could go up if these european countries cut down their arrivals and even help them to go to benefit island. cannot see any other country having less balls than we have.

We’re only down on numbers compared to other European countries because of the channel…if we had a land border we’d be overwhelmed….no ID cards, benefits galore free health care plus other things would lead to a tsunami…
As for Europe being swamped, blame Merkel…..she opened the floodgates.

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The general rule in this country is if in doubt, let them in. Most other countries say if in doubt keep em out. This is why they are all so desperate to get their feet on the beaches of Dover or on the deck of a "Border Force" boat.

you get the impression of that being correct but at the moment we are still well down on numbers coming here than other european countries get. its not as if the welcome mat is down for them there as they seem as popular in europe as they are here. the bigger problem that might arise is the fact that numbers could go up if these european countries cut down their arrivals and even help them to go to benefit island. cannot see any other country having less balls than we have.

We’re only down on numbers compared to other European countries because of the channel…if we had a land border we’d be overwhelmed….no ID cards, benefits galore free health care plus other things would lead to a tsunami…
As for Europe being swamped blame Merkel…..she opened the floodgates.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
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We’re only down on numbers compared to other European countries because of the channel…if we had a land border we’d be overwhelmed….no ID cards, benefits galore free health care plus other things would lead to a tsunami…
As for Europe being swamped blame Merkel…..she opened the floodgates.


Spot on.

and a lot of germans realise this also now.


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How’s this for brass neck cheek. On a discussion programme last night one pompous young woke individual suggested we welcome ALL migrants and send all our pensioners to Rwanda. :roll:

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How’s this for brass neck cheek. On a discussion programme last night one pompous young woke individual suggested we welcome ALL migrants and send all our pensioners to Rwanda. :roll:

should have gone the whole hog and said white pensioners. doubt any of him immegrant buddies would have said the same about their parents and grandparents. is it our faults we have brought into the world so many so detest their elders, their country, its way of life for this love affair of everything and anybody non british. the bad lot of the immegrants would just as easily stick a knife in him as they would others who feel the opposite to him, but too think to realise this and still feeling walm inside because of his statement. Really would you want to enter a country that gives a platform to fools as him, but then they are the ones they can manipulate for their and not our ends.


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How’s this for brass neck cheek. On a discussion programme last night one pompous young woke individual suggested we welcome ALL migrants and send all our pensioners to Rwanda. :roll:



How did the audience react to this ,snowy?.


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How’s this for brass neck cheek. On a discussion programme last night one pompous young woke individual suggested we welcome ALL migrants and send all our pensioners to Rwanda. :roll:



How did the audience react to this ,snowy?.

NOT charitably, but the gormless twat deserved all he got. It was the sheer arrogance that got me….we have a generation of socially illiterate selfish feckwits who haven’t grown up to all intents and purposes.

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Smirky's Rwanda plan is working - NOT - dozy bastard

Arrivals by boat in last 3 days total

1111 on 22 boats

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I just don't understand how they physically can't be stopped? If someone rocked up at Seaton beach with an inflatable the whole town would get to know within minutes. I am confused.

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Funny some of them now heading straight from Dover to Ireland to avoid threat of Rwanda and guess what the Irish don't want them and are trying to stop them.
Get the flights going and put them all directly on them to process their claims there rather than having them here. Apparently the Australian system similar to using the Rwanda approach has significantly reduced their numbers.

Of course I'd also insist the French do their job of stopping the boats, backed up by Border Force turning them round or landing g them back on Calais beaches.


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Send the buggers back! every last raghead, musrat, ISIS one of them.


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Smirky's Rwanda plan is working - NOT - dozy bastard

Arrivals by boat in last 3 days total

1111 on 22 boats

Hope him and his party get slaughtered in elections today.

its like putting one taxi on for a school that needs at least 10 buses to take kids home. the problem is not at dover but where these first arrive into europe. stop em there and we would not be having this discussion.


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Send the buggers back! every last raghead, musrat, ISIS one of them.

but look at how your live has been enriched over the years by them. if you wrote a book about it all the pages would be blank.


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Why is Hartlepool full of third world scrounging boat people?


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Why is Hartlepool full of third world scrounging boat people?

because everywhere else is so why not hartlepool. where have they been accomodated is the best question to ask. wonder if an attempt of putting them on the edge of the town out of sight to the majority like round my way has been done and they spoiled it by coming closer into town for the shops and buggering the plans up. immegrants in the past hve tended to be as close to town centres as possible and took years on end for even just few to move away from them. a case of what we as residents do not know the better and doubt right from the first boat to arrive the media would have kept silent about it if it wasn,t for a few who were on the case soon after they did arrive. are any council or govrnment ever going to tell you when and the number of life enrichers that will be entering your district, but they want our bloody votes though to elect them for the silence.


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Smirky's Rwanda plan is working - NOT - dozy bastard

Arrivals by boat in last 3 days total

1111 on 22 boats

Hope him and his party get slaughtered in elections today.

Whoever gets elected will do feck all about it….reading between the lines Starmer’s gonna solve the backlog by just letting them stay…job done…not!

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Jamie1952 wrote:
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Stirring speech by Yvette Cooper about Border Control and Customs and how much money Rwanda is costing and will cost, the scheme should be scrapped and the money used to pay for extra staff.
It’s free to watch, some on here think you have to pay to watch YouTube, you do if you want to watch advert free.
https://youtu.be/pAU26MQacpI?si=iX-V54NSQ603rj-I

You a Starmer shill Jamie….?
Yvette Cooper has never made a stirring speech in her life, all voter friendly tosh for the gullible. Leopards don’t change their spots, they’ll revert to form when in power and let the the boats continue…plus the massive legal immigration…the Tory’s are shite, but Labour ain’t gonna improve the situation one jot.
Anyone who thinks things are going to get better on the boats under Starmer is taking too many recreational drugs.


Everything she said was true or did you actually bother to watch the video, I doubt it, no one can stop the boats fact or even discourage them, these are desperate people.

Who are you a fan of Snowy, Tice, Farage, Rees Mogg, Cameron, Johnson, Sunak, Truss etc you sound like a right wing voter with a deep hatred with anything connected to the Labour Party.

Labour aren’t in power so there is no way you can predict what will happen, it can’t be any worse than the last 14 years under the Tories.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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Stirring speech by Yvette Cooper about Border Control and Customs and how much money Rwanda is costing and will cost, the scheme should be scrapped and the money used to pay for extra staff.
It’s free to watch, some on here think you have to pay to watch YouTube, you do if you want to watch advert free.
https://youtu.be/pAU26MQacpI?si=iX-V54NSQ603rj-I

You a Starmer shill Jamie….?
Yvette Cooper has never made a stirring speech in her life, all voter friendly tosh for the gullible. Leopards don’t change their spots, they’ll revert to form when in power and let the the boats continue…plus the massive legal immigration…the Tory’s are shite, but Labour ain’t gonna improve the situation one jot.
Anyone who thinks things are going to get better on the boats under Starmer is taking too many recreational drugs.


Everything she said was true or did you actually bother to watch the video, I doubt it, no one can stop the boats fact or even discourage them, these are desperate people.

Who are you a fan of Snowy, Tice, Farage, Rees Mogg, Cameron, Johnson, Sunak, Truss etc you sound like a right wing voter with a deep hatred with anything connected to the Labour Party.

Labour aren’t in power so there is no way you can predict what will happen, it can’t be any worse than the last 14 years under the Tories.


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Snowy wrote:
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Smirky's Rwanda plan is working - NOT - dozy bastard

Arrivals by boat in last 3 days total

1111 on 22 boats

Hope him and his party get slaughtered in elections today.

Whoever gets elected will do feck all about it….reading between the lines Starmer’s gonna solve the backlog by just letting them stay…job done…not!

Can you post a link where Starmer has said that Snowy? Even where he's said it 'between the lines'.
What I've heard from Labour is that they'll open legal ways and areas to process applicants before they get here risking their lives in the Channel, have proper and effective Border controls and process the 1000's that are waiting to be processed due to the Tories being absolutely shite at everything they touch and try to implement.
Nothing about if you're here you can stay.
A link, even just 1, would be handy. Cheers. :wink:


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What I've heard from Labour is that they'll open legal ways and areas to process applicants before they get here risking their lives in the Channel, have proper and effective Border controls and process the 1000's that are waiting to be processed .


In his dreams of course....just wait till Macron tells him to feck off!! :) Is he still in touch with red tape and international laws? sctatchinghead


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That's all within law unlike the tories with their brain haired proposals that will never ever happen. :roll:


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Dustin Gee wrote:
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Smirky's Rwanda plan is working - NOT - dozy bastard

Arrivals by boat in last 3 days total

1111 on 22 boats

Hope him and his party get slaughtered in elections today.

Whoever gets elected will do feck all about it….reading between the lines Starmer’s gonna solve the backlog by just letting them stay…job done…not!

Can you post a link where Starmer has said that Snowy? Even where he's said it 'between the lines'.
What I've heard from Labour is that they'll open legal ways and areas to process applicants before they get here risking their lives in the Channel, have proper and effective Border controls and process the 1000's that are waiting to be processed due to the Tories being absolutely shite at everything they touch and try to implement.
Nothing about if you're here you can stay.
A link, even just 1, would be handy. Cheers. :wink:



‘open legal ways and areas to process applicants’
Labour need to explain exactly what that means, what legal ways, what areas ?


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Smirky's Rwanda plan is working - NOT - dozy bastard

Arrivals by boat in last 3 days total

1111 on 22 boats

Hope him and his party get slaughtered in elections today.

Whoever gets elected will do feck all about it….reading between the lines Starmer’s gonna solve the backlog by just letting them stay…job done…not!

Can you post a link where Starmer has said that Snowy? Even where he's said it 'between the lines'.
What I've heard from Labour is that they'll open legal ways and areas to process applicants before they get here risking their lives in the Channel, have proper and effective Border controls and process the 1000's that are waiting to be processed due to the Tories being absolutely shite at everything they touch and try to implement.
Nothing about if you're here you can stay.
A link, even just 1, would be handy. Cheers. :wink:

A link? I go by what I’m hearing on interviews …all sides of the argument can pull out a suitable quote to suit their viewpoint.
I don’t harvest links or quotes for future purposes because I’m awake, have common sense and a memory.
It’s what they don’t say you have to be wary of….NONE of the Party’s ..that’s NONE, will do anything about it.
As for processing them over the channel…it ain’t too difficult too realise that those rejected will simply do what they’re doing now and the boats will continue to come because the ones using the boats now are the ones who knew they couldn’t get in legally…I don’t need a link, I have eyes and ears and if to prove anything in life I need a ‘link’ to justify my opinion I’ll bury myself in the back garden.
You’ll twig on eventually.,

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Jamie1952 wrote:
Dustin Gee wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Critical Thinking wrote:
Smirky's Rwanda plan is working - NOT - dozy bastard

Arrivals by boat in last 3 days total

1111 on 22 boats

Hope him and his party get slaughtered in elections today.

Whoever gets elected will do feck all about it….reading between the lines Starmer’s gonna solve the backlog by just letting them stay…job done…not!

Can you post a link where Starmer has said that Snowy? Even where he's said it 'between the lines'.
What I've heard from Labour is that they'll open legal ways and areas to process applicants before they get here risking their lives in the Channel, have proper and effective Border controls and process the 1000's that are waiting to be processed due to the Tories being absolutely shite at everything they touch and try to implement.
Nothing about if you're here you can stay.
A link, even just 1, would be handy. Cheers. :wink:



‘open legal ways and areas to process applicants’
Labour need to explain exactly what that means, what legal ways, what areas ?

We’ll probably find out ……after the election.

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The French wont take them back they have enough problems with them and there's not a politician in the land who's going to bend their arm on the matter..We've run into a brick wall and they're going to making the crossings for years to come..


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‘open legal ways and areas to process applicants’
Labour need to explain exactly what that means, what legal ways, what areas ?

its called having open boarders which i,d guess most of their future mp,s and actavists actually want.


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Its never going to end.

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Snowy wrote:
Dustin Gee wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Critical Thinking wrote:
Smirky's Rwanda plan is working - NOT - dozy bastard

Arrivals by boat in last 3 days total

1111 on 22 boats

Hope him and his party get slaughtered in elections today.

Whoever gets elected will do feck all about it….reading between the lines Starmer’s gonna solve the backlog by just letting them stay…job done…not!

Can you post a link where Starmer has said that Snowy? Even where he's said it 'between the lines'.
What I've heard from Labour is that they'll open legal ways and areas to process applicants before they get here risking their lives in the Channel, have proper and effective Border controls and process the 1000's that are waiting to be processed due to the Tories being absolutely shite at everything they touch and try to implement.
Nothing about if you're here you can stay.
A link, even just 1, would be handy. Cheers. :wink:

A link? I go by what I’m hearing on interviews …all sides of the argument can pull out a suitable quote to suit their viewpoint.
I don’t harvest links or quotes for future purposes because I’m awake, have common sense and a memory.
It’s what they don’t say you have to be wary of….NONE of the Party’s ..that’s NONE, will do anything about it.
As for processing them over the channel…it ain’t too difficult too realise that those rejected will simply do what they’re doing now and the boats will continue to come because the ones using the boats now are the ones who knew they couldn’t get in legally…I don’t need a link, I have eyes and ears and if to prove anything in life I need a ‘link’ to justify my opinion I’ll bury myself in the back garden.
You’ll twig on eventually.,

Ah, so he never said nothing of the sort. Thought so.


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Its never going to end.

or get any better. before we had all this freedom of movement the country was a far better place even though we might not have had our lives enriched as much in the process. just have to go back to the 90,s and not the 1890,s either. every decision made by all party,s in the last6 0 years have not improved our lives in a single way i can think of. it isn,t just nostalgia for the days gone by unless you you prefer seeing rough sleepers everywhere, shops for foreigners, more and more houses where you once walked and less employment opportunities and going green was moving house to one with a garden.


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Dustin Gee wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Dustin Gee wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Critical Thinking wrote:
Smirky's Rwanda plan is working - NOT - dozy bastard

Arrivals by boat in last 3 days total

1111 on 22 boats

Hope him and his party get slaughtered in elections today.

Whoever gets elected will do feck all about it….reading between the lines Starmer’s gonna solve the backlog by just letting them stay…job done…not!

Can you post a link where Starmer has said that Snowy? Even where he's said it 'between the lines'.
What I've heard from Labour is that they'll open legal ways and areas to process applicants before they get here risking their lives in the Channel, have proper and effective Border controls and process the 1000's that are waiting to be processed due to the Tories being absolutely shite at everything they touch and try to implement.
Nothing about if you're here you can stay.
A link, even just 1, would be handy. Cheers. :wink:

A link? I go by what I’m hearing on interviews …all sides of the argument can pull out a suitable quote to suit their viewpoint.
I don’t harvest links or quotes for future purposes because I’m awake, have common sense and a memory.
It’s what they don’t say you have to be wary of….NONE of the Party’s ..that’s NONE, will do anything about it.
As for processing them over the channel…it ain’t too difficult too realise that those rejected will simply do what they’re doing now and the boats will continue to come because the ones using the boats now are the ones who knew they couldn’t get in legally…I don’t need a link, I have eyes and ears and if to prove anything in life I need a ‘link’ to justify my opinion I’ll bury myself in the back garden.
You’ll twig on eventually.,

Ah, so he never said nothing of the sort. Thought so.

You’re missing the point, I don’t have a dog in the fight, obviously you do.
I know what I know, I don’t have to justify anything….like I said, time will tell.
Changes nothing….I’ll carry on link free, because you can find a link to suit your purposes on anything…all views catered for, click and collect……depends who’s link you pick or who concocts it.

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If Starmer had said anything like that he'd have been absolutely slaughtered by the right-wing press.


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If Starmer had said anything like that he'd have been absolutely slaughtered by the right-wing press.

It’s what they don’t say, you have to read between the lines……it’s how far the question goes by the interviewer.
He says he’ll take on staff to assess claimants, …no problem there, good, ….the Tories fecked about.
But the questioner should have asked what went beyond that point…?
Will they be allowed to stay, or what percentage will be allowed to stay is the key question that none of the Party’s answer.
Why….? Not even vaguely or obviously saying we don’t know yet do any of them say, it’s easily blanked, but no one does. They just stay tight lipped. Why?

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The big question is are we putting Starmer in because we're fed up of the Tories or is it because we are convinced he has the policies to take the Country forward. If he has got such policies what guarantees have we got that he won't ditch them as soon as the going gets tough.
Its alright talking a good game whilst in opposition but the Captain's chair is sometimes a very lonely place when it's you making the decisions, answering the questions and facing the glare of everyone's attention.
We could be jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.
It's no good coming out with the old chestnuts like well they couldn't do any worse. It's not a competion to see who is the worst. We want better, don't we.
There is a lot of expectation being thrust on the bold Kier's shoulders, will he be able to handle that and deliver or will he fold under the weight of it all.
Do we stick or do we twist.
Big decision.

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I'd like to twist. Nothing and nobody can be as bad as the last few years.


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I'd like to twist. Nothing and nobody can be as bad as the last few years.


Your choice and you are perfecty entitled to it. I hope you are not disappointed, for all our sakes.

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