Darlo cast offs... We're going down next season aren't we

I see the back end of the clubs human centipede has popped up again !

You’ll still be wibbling on in a couple of years about the big pocketed teams in the evostik premier league at this rate

So...
I'm a "turd that wont flush" AND a "back end of a centipede"
Mmmm...well bugga me...there appears something more wrong with you than just a simple intellectual deficit Mr Loyal T.V fan.
An anal fixation perhaps?
I wonder how would Freud interpret that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_stage
Cap fits perfectly.

What's the rift between you and Loyal I may have got it wrong but it seems more personal than just a bunker bust up

I think he'll go to Spennymoor, his dad is very good mates with spike.

Is he any good What position

He is a midfielder with energy but has suffered with injuries over the last couple of seasons. He was on spikes radar when Spike was manager here so I think he'll sign for Spennymoor.

Nothing personal on my side, just responding (albeit somewhat juveniley) to posts in my direction

So do you have a donkey or not Loyal

No rift as far as I'm concerned Leggie.
He can call me,
Call the club,
Call the manager,
Call the players,
And call the chairman, as much as he wants.
Even though it's only based on nothing more him looking at his T.V set with a bottle in his hand every now and then.
And that's all his contribution to this board consists of tbf which again is fine by me.
There's obviously nowt much going on upstairs with him, but I really couldn't give a monkeys toss.
All about opinions.

Football is indeed all about opinions The reason I asked is I was beginning to wonder if one of you is sorting the other's wife.

No but I have been called an ass a few times !

Funny you should mention the missus.
She said shes friendly with a bloke called Dick.
Fits his profile for sure

suffered with injuries over the last two seasons then welcome to the club ben. you sound ideal.

we can more than compete with the majority on the games but i,d guess we would be in the relegation zone if you look at the other money coming into the club. Raj either cannot or is unwilling to throw more cash at the club and it is what it is and we cannot do anything about it. Problem now is large gates do not give you the edge clubs once had over others.

The word at this end is he is becoming a football agent and as such can’t play at any higher levels.
Even if the above isn’t true then he’s not good enough for your level anyway, nice lad but in and out the side for us.

Thanks Loan Star

Its just crackers isnt it? It reminds me of the Russian trolls on social media making more and more far fetched, crazy excuses for Putin. It's blatant propaganda.

Raj said we are getting competitive budget. No more shit excuses please Mr Singh, either directly from your fireside chats, from your manager or from your minions. We're not asking for the Earth just for us to reach our potential.

So who makes this stuff up….?

Yes Ive just been told similar tonight by a mate of his, apparently he can't play in the top 7 tiers as its some sort of conflict of interest.

Hopefully it was a BS rumour anyway, if that’s the sort of standard we are looking at Christ help us

Never took you as a religious type Loyal.

Yes "Oh Crikey" indeed.
Good Poolie lingo that like ..tell us where were you born again mate?
Listen Mr Billy...how much do you think the multi millionaire Barnet owner is subsidising the club for, one way or another?
You think we can match his players wages cos we are pulling in 2 thousand more on our home gate than them, and cos we is such a "massive" club?
Same applies to Altrincham and Solihull Moors and a boat load of other clubs above and below us.
You think these minnows we are currently competing with are tin pot clubs and can't be big hitters because their attendances are lower than ours, and never likely to get anywhere near to what we can pull in?
Listen... this lot and above us Harrogate, Forest Green, Fleetwood and yes even Accrington Stanley and all the rest, all have more financial fire power than we have regardless of our home attendance.
We can't match them because their owners are rich beyond belief... it's that simple.
These boys are now the big hitters.
So wake up and smell the coffee and get used to it.
We had our day in the sun with IOR and believe me it ain't coming back anytime soon.
These small fry from days gone by now have all the cash and we have bugger all in comparison.
Just a load of nice debt we cant get rid of.
And guess what, players actually go where the money is.
Amazing that innit?
You Mr Billy are living in a totally delusional state.. a warped byegone era.
We never had f/k all.
Now we have even less.. especially given all the competition from the newbie big hitters.
Its not funny anymore...no its hilarious.
By any chance are you genetically related to the resident village idiot on here Mr Loyal T.V fan?
Would not surprise me tbh.
But anyhow... tell us what time are you on tomorrow night so I can get some tickets.
Elephants are on first am i right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP6U5LBqA9A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhDJxEPRDek

I do agree the debt is likely a burden we have more than other clubs...most of the rest as usual is shite.

So what defines success next year in yoru eyes twaddle? 5th bottom and survival?

So we still have debt and one of the worst teams in our history.
So if we have 4000 or 1000 fans we have to accept more failure because our owner isn't minted.

Some of these failure excuses are beyond belief.

I don't think success is in his mantra until we get a trillionaire chairman and 10000 + crowds.

I agree with your sentence of players go we're the money is.
Liddle - South Shields
Oates - Mansfield
Sterry - Mols - Doncaster etc
Etc
Etc!.
Sideways n Backwards moves to get pay rises.
Pretty embarrassing n Shambolic in the grand scheme of things.
And now we bring it down to a new level of lowness by already stateing we may struggle to compete with the big boys in Division Five.

It's almost comical.

Hi Poolie1, who’s the loads of debt owed to? Some chairman’s convert the money they put into the club into equity or take a loss when they sell the club. Can you imagine our chairman doing this?

It’s all about the money.
Trouble is, no one knows what the money situation is.
Play winning football and no one cares about money.
Play crap and it becomes the cause.

Against my better judgement, if I win the lottery I’ll buy the joint, put a thick skinned puppet in as chairman (postal applications in handwriting only) and splash the cash, dissenters will be noted and excommunicated….. we have ways of making you enjoy the match.

We haven't even announced the retained list let alone signed anyone but the moaners are at it already about the quality of players we may or may not get this close season. Now that is true comedy.

As for being a big club, really - we've never won a league, never played above the 3rd tier, never won a cup, so what is it that makes us a "big club"?

yes, and fans quickly forget like wanting more cup runs when after the last one they saw sod all being spent anywhere apart from possibly the new millhouse seats. if we had the money there is no guarentee we,d sign the right players anyway but just give em ever higher wages.

Just ignore him. The extracts from his Big Book of BS Excuses will just keep coming. There aren't many people left who buy this bollocks.

I think most Poolies (apart from die-hard Raj fans) are left two categories, those still raging and those resigned to how things are. Both categories know the score with the way the club is, they're not daft but just deal with it in different ways.

I get you but we ARE big fish in this particular pond.

The 'moaners' you speak of have witnessed year after year of poor recruitment and shameful performances so I think they are justified with their
cynicism and KPs words just add more evidence. If we make some obviously ambitious signings that will soon turn into belief. Until then.....

What do you mean by "the way the club is"?

And what actually makes us a big fish?

Seriously?

Well please explain because other than what
we see on the pitch what do we know - not what we assume, what we suppose, or what must be because we're shite, etc etc???

The idea that the size of a football club owner's bank balance is more important than its average gate isn't as outlandish as some people on here are making out. How else do you explain Forest Green Rovers' seasons in League 1 and League 2? Incidentally, Dale Vince with his £100 million+ net worth is still FGR's chairman, so it's odds on they'll be back in the NL promotion mix next season.

We all know the ideal solution for Pools - our crowd potential + a seriously rich owner. Someone who'll come in, pay Raj what he wants for the club, and still have loads of dosh left over to spend on players. Simple really.

The right players and manager play as big a part.

Lets not beat about the bush. This is another 'its not Raj's fault' post from you. Leave it alone. You are on a hiding to nothing.

Nobody said it was. What is outlandish is claiming (not you personally) that clubs of a similar size to ours that are achieving more than us all have wealthy owners and benefactors.

That works for me. "Thick skinned puppet" sounds like the JD for a Human Resources Manager. There's plenty of them about.

So Mr Imp no answers to what makes us a big club or what we're all supposed to know about how the club is then. But no doubt you'll continue with your campaign of protest regardless?

I do wonder what your connection with Raj is. You are very passionate and persistent with his defence. Its very personal for you it seems. You see it isn't personal for me. I've said it multiple times, Raj can stay at HUFC forever if he stops being rubbish at progressing the club.

because of our history of being a football league club and nothing more. we are playing against clubs who have reached their highest level in their existance but we are at our lowest. history means sod all and its the present that matters and a defeat against maidenhead is a defeat no worse than one against rochdale or southend.

You're a braver man than me. I used to say "when I win the Euromillions" but now I wouldn't go anywhere near owning Hartlepool United, even if the win was approaching £200million. It would be great at first as we moved up but as soon as we stalled, and we would, the knives would be out. You would go from hero to zero overnight.
Some fans, most of whom haven't got two halfpennies to scratch their arse with, would be demanding constant success and that you buy that success. Yes we'll get fans saying that wouldn't happen but it would. It wouldn't come from the fans who live in the real World but how many football fans live in the real World.

Its a number of factors. Not just history.

that can take longer especially for a manager than the club and fans have the patience for. we need some sort of stability but that does not mean we need to spend years in mid table but a gradual year on year improvement with some plan in place that everyone can see.