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billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4413

derwent wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

derwent wrote:

Pooly_Imp wrote:

PTID wrote:

Some think that because they use terms like hard evidence in their arguments yet don't have any but if you use the facts that we do know in a counter then they accuse you if working for Raj, being a propagandist, or a Raj worshipper in an effort to close down debate. Sad and a bit childish really.

Watch games, check the league table and the chaos feed (a.k.a. HUFC club news) and theres all the hard evidence one needs.

Now I'm all for looking forwards so lets do it. Raj has been evidently crap, he needs to change big style and we will all see how that unfolds together as Poolies (not much other choice

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The only hard evidence we can rely on is what happens on the pitch. Since KP came in our points per game ratio has improved. He is now able to make his decision on players we have on our books who are running out of contracts. He has also indicated that his mission over the summer break is to get around seven permanent signings that will improve the squad. On top of that he wants three or four better standard loanees on longer term contracts, plus the academy youngsters he is able to introduce. To me that is a decent plan and an attempt to improve things. So I am looking forward to the results that he achieves within that plan. Yes I agree let us see how that unfolds.
Now I am prepared to stick to that, Mr Imp. The big question is are you ??????
The proof of the pudding etc etc etc....................................

If you take the last 10 games were avwraging one point per game thats actually relegation form. He got off to a brilliant start but thinhs have more than levelled out since.

Considering what he had to choose from in the last ten games are you not surprised. I prefer to take all of his games into account rather than be selective. Hopefully and if he gets a fair wind in the summer break the conversation will take a different turn, which is really the point I was making. There's nothing we can do now to change those results but there's plenty we can do about the first ten of next season, which is what I will be focussing on.

No im not surprised but even if thats selective its a good chunk of the season. Yes if he is given a chance then who knows, but thats the problem he needs to be given a fighting chance.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 4031

I'm not spinning anything away from Raj he made a monumental f*ck up when he appointed Hartley then followed up with Curle.
Unfortunately Askey wasn't the man most of us thought he was (don't think there were many complaints when he was given a long term deal) to turn things around. Maybe he's got it right with Phillips time will tell?

As for quietly letting Raj redeem himself in the coming months that'll be a refreshing change to your constant sniping and complaining about him.

Pooly_Imp · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 2657

PTID wrote:

I'm not spinning anything away from Raj he made a monumental f*ck up when he appointed Hartley then followed up with Curle.
Unfortunately Askey wasn't the man most of us thought he was (don't think there were many complaints when he was given a long term deal) to turn things around. Maybe he's got it right with Phillips time will tell?

As for quietly letting Raj redeem himself in the coming months that'll be a refreshing change to your constant sniping and complaining about him.

I think you're just scratching the surface regarding f*ck ups but that's a good start.

It will indeed be a refreshing change to have Raj giving us nothing to complain about.

First things first, he should be putting a 'Not for sale' sign on Manni D.... well I'd let him off if we got a massive fee :laugh:

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9165

Pooly_Imp wrote:

PTID wrote:

I'm not spinning anything away from Raj he made a monumental f*ck up when he appointed Hartley then followed up with Curle.
Unfortunately Askey wasn't the man most of us thought he was (don't think there were many complaints when he was given a long term deal) to turn things around. Maybe he's got it right with Phillips time will tell?

As for quietly letting Raj redeem himself in the coming months that'll be a refreshing change to your constant sniping and complaining about him.

I think you're just scratching the surface regarding f*ck ups but that's a good start.

It will indeed be a refreshing change to have Raj giving us nothing to complain about.

First things first, he should be putting a 'Not for sale' sign on Manni D.... well I'd let him off if we got a massive fee :laugh:

Promotion next season is just Redemption.
Unreal how we ended up back in non league super quick.
Harsh but real down to One person.
The truth hurts the easily offended. :angry-tappingfoot:

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 4031

Well if you're suggesting it's all down to Raj then surely the promotion must also have been down to Raj? F*ck all to do with Hartley, Curle for the relegation and nothing to do with Challinor for the promotion- or is it just Raj fault when it goes pear shaped and nothing to with him if things are going well? Can't have it both ways.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4413

PTID wrote:

Well if you're suggesting it's all down to Raj then surely the promotion must also have been down to Raj? F*ck all to do with Hartley, Curle for the relegation and nothing to do with Challinor for the promotion- or is it just Raj fault when it goes pear shaped and nothing to with him if things are going well? Can't have it both ways.

Of course he had something to do with promotion and a big part, he allowed us to sign Armstrong. Whats happened since though? Totally disregarded the team, made strange choices continually. If we got promoted next season he should rightly get plaudits but what a mess he has made. Shows how bad things are when were on about building a team round a couple of defenders who are now conceding about 3 a game away.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9165

PTID wrote:

Well if you're suggesting it's all down to Raj then surely the promotion must also have been down to Raj? F*ck all to do with Hartley, Curle for the relegation and nothing to do with Challinor for the promotion- or is it just Raj fault when it goes pear shaped and nothing to with him if things are going well? Can't have it both ways.

The cup runs money didn't go back onto the pitch well after promotion.
That ain't both ways is it

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Opinions hey

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 4031

We don't know the facts of where any money went is the truth though. Apparently the club has significant debts and obligations to previous owners in the event of cup success so we maybe didn't have much left over to spend, again we don't know.

I'd suggest we're going to build a team around Mani D, Grey, Dodds, Mancini, Waterfall, and Parkes which isn't the worst base to start from.

We're also starting with a manager who has gained something like 26 points from the last 16 games with a team that could barely muster a win under the previous manager.

Room for cautious option I'd say but the proof of the pudding is yet to be seen.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9165

PTID wrote:

We don't know the facts of where any money went is the truth though. Apparently the club has significant debts and obligations to previous owners in the event of cup success so we maybe didn't have much left over to spend, again we don't know.

I'd suggest we're going to build a team around Mani D, Grey, Dodds, Mancini, Waterfall, and Parkes which isn't the worst base to start from.

We're also starting with a manager who has gained something like 26 points from the last 16 games with a team that could barely muster a win under the previous manager.

Room for cautious option I'd say but the proof of the pudding is yet to be seen.

I totally agree with last 3 paragraphs.
Hope that's ok :clap:

Pooly_Imp · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 2657

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

PTID wrote:

Well if you're suggesting it's all down to Raj then surely the promotion must also have been down to Raj? F*ck all to do with Hartley, Curle for the relegation and nothing to do with Challinor for the promotion- or is it just Raj fault when it goes pear shaped and nothing to with him if things are going well? Can't have it both ways.

Of course he had something to do with promotion and a big part, he allowed us to sign Armstrong. Whats happened since though? Totally disregarded the team, made strange choices continually. If we got promoted next season he should rightly get plaudits but what a mess he has made. Shows how bad things are when were on about building a team round a couple of defenders who are now conceding about 3 a game away.

Armstrong did really well. Found his feet and worked well with DC. But let's remember what he was at the the time, an out of favour L2 striker, a standard unremarkable kind of loan signing for a NL side,

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