In Crawfords defence he has been playing out of pos for some time.
Having said that cheap FKs and needless yellows annoy me.

This is the most likely scenario for me too. I'm definitely not against Fergie getting another deal and am quite split on Crawford but think if he can have more of his good games there's definitely a player there, the problem being he's anonymous in his off games.

No issue with Ferguson, I would accept Crawford getting a new deal
If feather and Cooke got binned

If we Goin for promotion then these better new signings which KP says he's bringing in.
Then the tactics of hanging onto 1 goal leads should be history along with 100% shite out of contractors.
IIF.
They just ain't promotion material and this myth that better new signings will carry or improve them is Bollocks.
Retained list is a mega part of the promotion drive which cannot be fcuked up Again.

UTP.

The worst player for stupid yellows is Cookie The lad is unable to keep his mouth shut, he gets a silly yellow card almost every game for arguing against the referee even when he is clearly wrong. I have noticed how he disappears after getting a yellow and contributes very little thereafter. Also notice the red doesn't follow because he dare not tackle after the yellow is dished out to him. I blame all the managers for this petty school boy antics. Cloughie would have warned him only once then gone.

How many yellow cards has Cooke got? Can’t remember him being suspended.

Ive been waiting and seeing for over 2 years nothibg is going to change. We here this every pre season.

Fully agree but we will still be there next season.

That settles it then. I won't be going again. Can you let the other 4,000 regulars know too?

It has kind of been in a pattern at Pools. Decent players leave for nowt as the club has been shit at contract renewal. New deals are offered to some surprisingly ordinary players. Transfer business is left late. Fans urge other fans to wait and see who gets signed then shout down anyone who conments on how disappointingly ordinary the new players look on paper, calling for them to judge when b they've seen them play. Then when they DO play, most are bang average as expected and a couple are good. The pattern can be broken but itv takes a lot of change in culture and mentality.

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It has kind of been in a pattern at Pools. Decent players leave for nowt as the club has been shit at contract renewal. New deals are offered to some surprisingly ordinary players. Transfer business is left late. Fans urge other fans to wait and see who gets signed then shout down anyone who conments on how disappointingly ordinary the new players look on paper, calling for them to judge when b they've seen them play. Then when they DO play, most are bang average as expected and a couple are good. The pattern can be broken but itv takes a lot of change in culture and mentality.[/quote]


Yep--the dont judge until you see gets taken to extremes.....'how can you possible know Grigg or Norwood will be better than Chris Wreh until you've seen them both playing' mentality.

It has kind of been in a pattern at Pools. Decent players leave for nowt as the club has been shit at contract renewal. New deals are offered to some surprisingly ordinary players. Transfer business is left late. Fans urge other fans to wait and see who gets signed then shout down anyone who conments on how disappointingly ordinary the new players look on paper, calling for them to judge when b they've seen them play. Then when they DO play, most are bang average as expected and a couple are good. The pattern can be broken but itv takes a lot of change in culture and mentality.[/quote]

Nobody's shouting. Phillips says he wants to get his transfer business done early, as he did at South Shields. Let's see if he manages that eh? It's a wee bit early to judge when the current season hasn't even ended And none of our decent players will be leaving for nowt - they're all under contract for next season.

Unlike last season when all of our known duds still had a year left.

Nobody's shouting. Phillips says he wants to get his transfer business done early, as he did at South Shields. Let's see if he manages that eh? It's a wee bit early to judge when the current season hasn't even ended And none of our decent players will be leaving for nowt - they're all under contract for next season.[/quote]

Yeah fair comment to be honest. Let's see.

Well be honest do you think things are going to change? Its not about not going etc or playing silly buggers do you honestly think we will sign any sort of quality or enough of it while things are as they are?.

You’d better start hoping and praying then because he appears to be consolidating his hold.
Ferguson and Crawford sound like an Edinburgh Shortcake maker and play like them, I would not miss them one bit, they really aren’t stand out players and we must be able to do better than that if we’re serious about getting out of this league, we need better.

Its nearly time Callum.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvPZmbAxsMA

If anyone is expecting to see the kids get a look in next season, Forget it..!

I would appreciate your reasoning on that one Mr Gray. Why wouldn't they figure scratchinghead

in the same way grey got his chance a few seasons back and stephenson this one.

didn,t play enough games to get a suspension. if he had been better on the pitch than with his gob he might have been a consistant performer.

I was only questioning Leggie saying Cooke got regular Yellow cards. After 5 you get a suspension and I can’t remember him getting one. Then again without looking at the records I would have thought Cooke has been a fairly regular this season. I would admit I’m not his biggest fan.

A lot depends on the type of man and manager Kevin Phillips is. Dave Challinor got a tune out of Raj for the promotion season, even though it ended in tears a few months after. It can be done with the right personality in charge - I think KP will walk if he doesn't feel he's being backed, something Lee, Hartley and Askey were never going to do.

Yeah fair comment to be honest. Let's see.[/quote]

The last interview i heard from KP (friday) he said the fans need to be patient (regarding signings). So i doubt things will happen quickly.

Well be honest do you think things are going to change? Its not about not going etc or playing silly buggers do you honestly think we will sign any sort of quality or enough of it while things are as they are?.[/quote]

Don,t think things will change myself, Apart from maybe the average age of the squad rising. Doubt the kids will get a look in going by yesterday. Very dissappointing!

Reasoning is simple, If two of the most promising could not get at least 30mins yesterday.
Then when points make prizes doubt they will get a look in.

That was the most disappointing thing yesterday for me, Apart from Cooke, Whinging constantly at the ref, And wanting other players booked.

Time will tell on this one.

surely no one wants our team based around even our kids next season. any decent ones should be brought along slowly like joe has been and stephenson now and its one thing we cannot knock the club for how they have done this.

What makes you think i was knocking the club?
Team based around the Kids, You said that not me.

I was referring to the manager, Nothing to play for, apart from KPs points target.
Imo the kids should have been given decent time on the pitch, Would have made their season, And some of us would have been pleased.

Looking at the website we have 7 players on loan and 5 out on loan. I think that most if not all will be out of the door. You can then probably add Lacey,Manny O, and Demmy to the list that would be 15 players out. That’s why I have an inkling that probably most if not all of the Dorking team will be offered contracts. KP can then bring in the 6 or 7 players he’s looking for, plus Dodds and the Frenchman if fit. That’s just me thinking aloud!

According to InTheMadCrowd Cooke started 33 games, was a sub for 3 games and was booked 7 times

Got booked more times than he put a tackle in, that’s impressive

Usual excuses already being trotted out by Phillips in
The mail, give him credit he knows how to toe the party line

Some big hitters in the league we can’t compete with so fans shouldn’t be disappointed if we lose out on some first choices, and there won’t be a lot of players rocking up early in pre season so we have to be patient…..

I wonder who these big hitters are they are talking about? Tamworth, Wealdstone or Maidenhead?

Southend 100% once takeover is completed

With the exception of Oldham and possibly forest green if they are being crazy funded there are no clubs who should have a bigger budget than
Us next year, teams maybe comparable eg Southend, rochdale, scunny (if promoted)
York, Yeovil etc but our attendance and support is at the top end, so all down to competence in terms of running of the club/the manager

No excuses next year lads…

Unreal that, can't compete in non league??? What has happened to our club

He got a tune out of him for so long your right, but then Challinor was fuming when he said he tried to sign about 50 forwards and ended up with fondop. Even Challinors days of getting half decent players looked over.

Thats a different line to what was said by what Phillips wanted last week. Same old excuses will come out again.

Big hitters in this league christ have we resorted to that already. What a joke.

Not sounding good. We'll see though.

Should be called Billidoomonger. The season has just finished and we are already knocking the club about next season. Just looks for the negative why he bothers with Pools I don’t know.

Ben Liddle allegedly on his way to Pools.

Because we have seen it all before. Not about being a doomonger proof is in the pudding and the same old lines are being used already, the same lines used for the last two years and look what a mess the team is in. Using the word big hitters when were in the national league with rochdale, york, oldham southend, wealdstone maidenhead gateshead is already a little heads up for whats to come.

That would be one serious pisstake

How does KP know exactly who the big hitters are. Does Raj have the songbook for every team and gives KP a load of cock and bull as to where we sit on the ladder. Highly doubt we are in the bottom half and im sure someone in the know before said we do indeed have a half decent competent pot for this league. The only teams we know for sure who will come with some half decent cash next season are York, FGR and potentially Southend when they get taken over (if it happens). There is other good team whom arnt as half well off as us yet consistently do well, Bromley, Gateshead and Solihull but to name a few ! We have to mirror what the Heed have done this season if we dont have the cash to support a Chesterfield like charge for promotion i think thats a given and even KP knows that !

The 7 new players id imagine are:

Fergusons replacement
RB
CM
2 wingers
Striker
CDM

At least 2 and more likely 3 centre mids needed, assuming the current lot are shipped out which they should be

Am not expecting a blow them out of the water Cheaterfield approach, but with one or two exceptions I am expecting a strong budget
Our support is like top 4 or 5 attendance wise and we still have Half the parachute payment and a peppercorn rent for the ground ffs , so any pleading poverty or spinning how we have to be creative as we can’t compete financially etc needs to be called out as shite as soon as it’s spoken

Oldham are stuck with a load of dross they can,t off load, 37 pros on contract.

No excuses next year lads ..cos our attendances and support is at the top end?
FFS.
Even allowing for your well deserved village idiot status on here Mr Loyal T.V fan... sorry... but there really is just no excuse for being that simple.
Guess what.
The owner of little big hitter Barnet F.C is called Anthony Kleanthos
He owns a £250 MILLION group of over 30 companies across the UK and Europe involved in the property, leisure, football and medical sectors.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_K ... ite_note-1
Guess what else.
Average attendance at Barnet this season is only 1855... https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/nati ... ttendances.
Yes...that's... EIGHTEEN...HUNDRED...and....FIFTY...FIVE.
Now.... have a look at where Barnet are in the league table this season..SECOND TOP..https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league
Now give your head another wobble and think why that is.
Attendances at the BOTTOM END.
Club at the TOP END.
I'll give you till tomorrow to work it out... and then we will go through it again step by step if need be till you come up with the right answer.
Then we will have a talk about another little big hitter....Altrincham F.C.[2340] and next week if I can be arsed we will take a look at Solihull Moors F.C.[1426]
BTW have you cleaned out the donkeys today?
No excuses now.
Good lad.

Oh crikey were bigging up Barnet and Altrincham now, what next Gateshead and Maidenhead. Just admit it we cant compete in the national league because of these massive clubs.