Hartlepool rail station

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36260

accrington fan wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

Chris McEwan the labour bloke running against Ben Houchen is promising to take the Tees Valley busses under public control and creating an integrated transport policy covering rail too.
If he gets in he needs to be held accountable for his promises like all our other politicians should be in future..........but that aint going to happen.

Where is he going to get the funding for that ?

He has no chance of controlling train fares and which services is he talking about?
Unless he’s splurging a load of cash to satisfy the rail operators
I think he’s a placement and feel sorry for the bloke asrealistically the manifesto has been written for him because he sounds like an idealistic Councillor lumbered with a rather bland offering.

it is possible to control local rail fares inside his area. this is done in west yorkshire and greater manchester but with more passengers and trains though. pensioners bus pases can be used on the trains in both areas but the manchester area lot get a better deal than us lot do. thing is it will be a subsidy that ratepayers have to pay for it indirectly.

Trouble is everyone will have to cough up to subsidise a small minority as the service is not that appealing in schedule and capacity.
Would it be based on usage in the Tess Valley area only?
Would revenue be on user numbers or a lump sum payment…..I prefer user numbers.
Buses by all means, but I reckon £1 a journey more realistic.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6994

Trying to reinvigorate public transport would be like trying to reinvent the wheel, in days gone by with most of the Hartlepool population working locally public transport, (wasn’t their workers buses at one time)was busy. Driving out of town nowadays on the A689 or to the A19 up Hart lane at peak times are very busy. There are very few buses which could take people to their out of town workplace nowadays, maybe only if you worked in the Boro.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36260

Jamie1952 wrote:

Trying to reinvigorate public transport would be like trying to reinvent the wheel, in days gone by with most of the Hartlepool population working locally public transport, (wasn’t their workers buses at one time)was busy. Driving out of town nowadays on the A689 or to the A19 up Hart lane at peak times are very busy. There are very few buses which could take people to their out of town workplace nowadays, maybe only if you worked in the Boro.

You are a confirmed believer in your own infallibility……. I am in the presence of the fountain of eternal knowledge, enlightenment and visionary excellence. yawn2

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6994

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Trying to reinvigorate public transport would be like trying to reinvent the wheel, in days gone by with most of the Hartlepool population working locally public transport, (wasn’t their workers buses at one time)was busy. Driving out of town nowadays on the A689 or to the A19 up Hart lane at peak times are very busy. There are very few buses which could take people to their out of town workplace nowadays, maybe only if you worked in the Boro.

You are a confirmed believer in your own infallibility……. I am in the presence of the fountain of eternal knowledge, enlightenment and visionary excellence. yawn2

No I am not infallible, we all make mistakes, you appear to never do as other posters will back me up on that. i can’t see what’s incorrect in my post, enlighten me.I do possess some great life experiences travelling all over the U.K. and the globe, holidays and working, I loved integrating with locals, learning a bit of their language and culture, great experience, reading books and surfing the net, you never stop learning even in your later years.

I bet you sit in your chair finger on the keypad thinking how can I slag Jamie off today, you really need to move on and think before you post replies.

Realistically if you could get a bus to take your dogs out everyday at the early hour you do to where ever would you go, of course you would.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36260

Jamie1952 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Trying to reinvigorate public transport would be like trying to reinvent the wheel, in days gone by with most of the Hartlepool population working locally public transport, (wasn’t their workers buses at one time)was busy. Driving out of town nowadays on the A689 or to the A19 up Hart lane at peak times are very busy. There are very few buses which could take people to their out of town workplace nowadays, maybe only if you worked in the Boro.

You are a confirmed believer in your own infallibility……. I am in the presence of the fountain of eternal knowledge, enlightenment and visionary excellence. yawn2

No I am not infallible, we all make mistakes, you appear to never do as other posters will back me up on that. i can’t see what’s incorrect in my post, enlighten me.I do possess some great life experiences travelling all over the U.K. and the globe, holidays and working, I loved integrating with locals, learning a bit of their language and culture, great experience, reading books and surfing the net, you never stop learning even in your later years.

I bet you sit in your chair finger on the keypad thinking how can I slag Jamie off today, you really need to move on and think before you post replies.

Realistically if you could get a bus to take your dogs out everyday at the early hour you do to where ever would you go, of course you would.

Whatever….. :animals-dogrun:

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6994

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Trying to reinvigorate public transport would be like trying to reinvent the wheel, in days gone by with most of the Hartlepool population working locally public transport, (wasn’t their workers buses at one time)was busy. Driving out of town nowadays on the A689 or to the A19 up Hart lane at peak times are very busy. There are very few buses which could take people to their out of town workplace nowadays, maybe only if you worked in the Boro.

You are a confirmed believer in your own infallibility……. I am in the presence of the fountain of eternal knowledge, enlightenment and visionary excellence. yawn2

No I am not infallible, we all make mistakes, you appear to never do as other posters will back me up on that. i can’t see what’s incorrect in my post, enlighten me.I do possess some great life experiences travelling all over the U.K. and the globe, holidays and working, I loved integrating with locals, learning a bit of their language and culture, great experience, reading books and surfing the net, you never stop learning even in your later years.

I bet you sit in your chair finger on the keypad thinking how can I slag Jamie off today, you really need to move on and think before you post replies.

Realistically if you could get a bus to take your dogs out everyday at the early hour you do to where ever would you go, of course you would.

Whatever….. :animals-dogrun:

I am like a terrier I never let go Snowy, I had the same reputation when I was working, if I thought I was right I would go out my way to prove it, many a ‘battle’ I had with contractors.
TBH Snowy I love ‘playing’ with you, you are so easy to wind up.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36260

Jamie1952 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Trying to reinvigorate public transport would be like trying to reinvent the wheel, in days gone by with most of the Hartlepool population working locally public transport, (wasn’t their workers buses at one time)was busy. Driving out of town nowadays on the A689 or to the A19 up Hart lane at peak times are very busy. There are very few buses which could take people to their out of town workplace nowadays, maybe only if you worked in the Boro.

You are a confirmed believer in your own infallibility……. I am in the presence of the fountain of eternal knowledge, enlightenment and visionary excellence. yawn2

No I am not infallible, we all make mistakes, you appear to never do as other posters will back me up on that. i can’t see what’s incorrect in my post, enlighten me.I do possess some great life experiences travelling all over the U.K. and the globe, holidays and working, I loved integrating with locals, learning a bit of their language and culture, great experience, reading books and surfing the net, you never stop learning even in your later years.

I bet you sit in your chair finger on the keypad thinking how can I slag Jamie off today, you really need to move on and think before you post replies.

Realistically if you could get a bus to take your dogs out everyday at the early hour you do to where ever would you go, of course you would.

Whatever….. :animals-dogrun:

I am like a terrier I never let go Snowy, I had the same reputation when I was working, if I thought I was right I would go out my way to prove it, many a ‘battle’ I had with contractors.
TBH Snowy I love ‘playing’ with you, you are so easy to wind up.

You are no terrier. ….I’ve had terriers for years and you are definitely NOT a Terrier.
Although you could be …of course, a Yorkshire Terrier, the ‘terrier’ the other terriers ignore, they’re famous for constantly yapping under the illusion they’re a proper terrier……but they don’t fare well against rats and foxes like the real thing.
Alas, anyone who boasts about their reputation hasn’t got one.
I don’t doubt you battling with contractors ….but reasoned negotiation tends to produce a more fruitful outcome , ego is best left in the locker.
As for ‘playing with me’…I doubt you could even ‘play’ with yourself.
So you carry on winding me up ….in your world :laugh:

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

Snowy you are wasting your time with this bloke. He really believes he is a cut above the the other members on this site. He is full of his own importance and will stoop very low to gain any advantage. rakxe

I reckon he got beat up at school and now carries a large chip on his shoulder. :laugh:

I also believe he has two user names Jamie and Jamie 52, I will apologise if proven wrong. rolf

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:35 pm

Jamie1952 wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

Chris McEwan the labour bloke running against Ben Houchen is promising to take the Tees Valley busses under public control and creating an integrated transport policy covering rail too.
If he gets in he needs to be held accountable for his promises like all our other politicians should be in future..........but that aint going to happen.

Where is he going to get the funding for that ?

The mayor has a lot of capital development money but the way it works is that the authority take the ongoing revenue risk but expect to make a profit as the current operators do but at a lesser margin that can be ploughed back into services. As in Manchester the authority tells a bus operator to run the services and pay them a fee but the ticket income is the authorities (revenue risk). The authority dictate the services/timetable to be run is a seamless way that increases demand as it becomes more attractive to go by bus (plus authority capital injected into bus infrastructure).
Best google Manchester Bee Bus and it gives details there.
Although the Manchester bus operators went to court about this and lost it seems to be one of the few things that has now met with their approval along with the council, unions, central government and the residents of Manchester. A real win/win/win/win/win.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36260

Bluestreak wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

Chris McEwan the labour bloke running against Ben Houchen is promising to take the Tees Valley busses under public control and creating an integrated transport policy covering rail too.
If he gets in he needs to be held accountable for his promises like all our other politicians should be in future..........but that aint going to happen.

Where is he going to get the funding for that ?

The mayor has a lot of capital development money but the way it works is that the authority take the ongoing revenue risk but expect to make a profit as the current operators do but at a lesser margin that can be ploughed back into services. As in Manchester the authority tells a bus operator to run the services and pay them a fee but the ticket income is the authorities (revenue risk). The authority dictate the services/timetable to be run is a seamless way that increases demand as it becomes more attractive to go by bus (plus authority capital injected into bus infrastructure).
Best google Manchester Bee Bus and it gives details there.
Although the Manchester bus operators went to court about this and lost it seems to be one of the few things that has now met with their approval along with the council, unions, central government and the residents of Manchester. A real win/win/win/win/win.

Be a good idea, if implemented but naturally I want to know what Hartlepool gets out of it.
Under Cleveland the Boro did really well….when they opened the new bus station Hartlepool lost a lot of National services and you had then to travel through to the Boro to get a coach to destinations, don’t want a repeat along those lines.

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:08 pm

Snowy wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

Chris McEwan the labour bloke running against Ben Houchen is promising to take the Tees Valley busses under public control and creating an integrated transport policy covering rail too.
If he gets in he needs to be held accountable for his promises like all our other politicians should be in future..........but that aint going to happen.

Where is he going to get the funding for that ?

The mayor has a lot of capital development money but the way it works is that the authority take the ongoing revenue risk but expect to make a profit as the current operators do but at a lesser margin that can be ploughed back into services. As in Manchester the authority tells a bus operator to run the services and pay them a fee but the ticket income is the authorities (revenue risk). The authority dictate the services/timetable to be run is a seamless way that increases demand as it becomes more attractive to go by bus (plus authority capital injected into bus infrastructure).
Best google Manchester Bee Bus and it gives details there.
Although the Manchester bus operators went to court about this and lost it seems to be one of the few things that has now met with their approval along with the council, unions, central government and the residents of Manchester. A real win/win/win/win/win.

Be a good idea, if implemented but naturally I want to know what Hartlepool gets out of it.
Under Cleveland the Boro did really well….when they opened the new bus station Hartlepool lost a lot of National services and you had then to travel through to the Boro to get a coach to destinations, don’t want a repeat along those lines.

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:10 pm

I meant to say the TVCA has the ring of Cleveland county council.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36260

Bluestreak wrote:

I meant to say the TVCA has the ring of Cleveland county council.

Used to call it ‘Toxic on Tees County Council’….seemed fitting if you lived in Hartlepool. God knows what we got out of it…and even he must have had doubts.

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:06 pm

We got ripped off, it was a negative outcome.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36260

It seemed to be run by Councillors from Eston, the on in charge looked like Boycey of Fools n Horses but not as appealing, they were good at moving jobs out of town.
When the Marina started they had an alternative plan for the sight for social housing…looked like fill the docks on and create the unappealing ‘Central Estate on Sea’…I was convinced they were just trying to turn Hartlepool into a dormitory town.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6994

Leggie43 wrote:

Snowy you are wasting your time with this bloke. He really believes he is a cut above the the other members on this site. He is full of his own importance and will stoop very low to gain any advantage. rakxe

I reckon he got beat up at school and now carries a large chip on his shoulder. :laugh:

I also believe he has two user names Jamie and Jamie 52, I will apologise if proven wrong. rolf

I have only one user name Jamie1952, where did you get the idea I have two, i never got beat up at school, I was the one beating others up. I am from a working class background and certainly don’t see myself a cut above anyone else. A lot of my comments are factual, some of my opinions and info a certain poster always takes umbrage to them and some are tongue in cheek. The same poster on the Bunker has no sense of humour and reads them all as factual and turns to slagging me off. The particular poster is at his worst very early morning when he wakes up and before his early morning walk but mellows as the day goes on I have noticed.
Some of this post is tongue in cheek, read into it how you like Leggied43, does that mean you are 80 years old ?
Life is short, it’s not a dress rehearsal you have to some frivolity.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36260

Jamie1952 wrote:

Leggie43 wrote:

Snowy you are wasting your time with this bloke. He really believes he is a cut above the the other members on this site. He is full of his own importance and will stoop very low to gain any advantage. rakxe

I reckon he got beat up at school and now carries a large chip on his shoulder. :laugh:

I also believe he has two user names Jamie and Jamie 52, I will apologise if proven wrong. rolf

I have only one user name Jamie1952, where did you get the idea I have two, i never got beat up at school, I was the one beating others up. I am from a working class background and certainly don’t see myself a cut above anyone else. A lot of my comments are factual, some of my opinions and info a certain poster always takes umbrage to them and some are tongue in cheek. The same poster on the Bunker has no sense of humour and reads them all as factual and turns to slagging me off. The particular poster is at his worst very early morning when he wakes up and before his early morning walk but mellows as the day goes on I have noticed.
Some of this post is tongue in cheek, read into it how you like Leggied43, does that mean you are 80 years old ?
Life is short, it’s not a dress rehearsal you have to some frivolity.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6994

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Leggie43 wrote:

Snowy you are wasting your time with this bloke. He really believes he is a cut above the the other members on this site. He is full of his own importance and will stoop very low to gain any advantage. rakxe

I reckon he got beat up at school and now carries a large chip on his shoulder. :laugh:

I also believe he has two user names Jamie and Jamie 52, I will apologise if proven wrong. rolf

I have only one user name Jamie1952, where did you get the idea I have two, i never got beat up at school, I was the one beating others up. I am from a working class background and certainly don’t see myself a cut above anyone else. A lot of my comments are factual, some of my opinions and info a certain poster always takes umbrage to them and some are tongue in cheek. The same poster on the Bunker has no sense of humour and reads them all as factual and turns to slagging me off. The particular poster is at his worst very early morning when he wakes up and before his early morning walk but mellows as the day goes on I have noticed.
Some of this post is tongue in cheek, read into it how you like Leggied43, does that mean you are 80 years old ?
Life is short, it’s not a dress rehearsal you have to some frivolity.

Off out with the dogs Snowy judging by your emoji, North Gare or the Headland this morning, weather quite mild this morning, no rain for a change. I might bump into you, thinking of getting the skateboard out, should I wear the baseball cap back to front or the right way round ?

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36260

Jamie1952 wrote:

I never got beat up at school, I was the one beating others up. .

I’d be embarrassed to write that down if I was you. But luckily I’m not.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18786

be a good idea if Snowy and Jamie1952 just played patting a ball over the net with each other doing private messages and not posting stuff on here knocking each other as the rest of us have to trawl through the comments on a topic they might be interested in themselves.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

Jamie1952 wrote:

Leggie43 wrote:

Snowy you are wasting your time with this bloke. He really believes he is a cut above the the other members on this site. He is full of his own importance and will stoop very low to gain any advantage. rakxe

I reckon he got beat up at school and now carries a large chip on his shoulder. :laugh:

I also believe he has two user names Jamie and Jamie 52, I will apologise if proven wrong. rolf

I have only one user name Jamie1952, where did you get the idea I have two, i never got beat up at school, I was the one beating others up. I am from a working class background and certainly don’t see myself a cut above anyone else. A lot of my comments are factual, some of my opinions and info a certain poster always takes umbrage to them and some are tongue in cheek. The same poster on the Bunker has no sense of humour and reads them all as factual and turns to slagging me off. The particular poster is at his worst very early morning when he wakes up and before his early morning walk but mellows as the day goes on I have noticed.
Some of this post is tongue in cheek, read into it how you like Leggied43, does that mean you are 80 years old ?
Life is short, it’s not a dress rehearsal you have to some frivolity.

That is interesting Jamie. So you were the school bully boy. Puts a whole new face on the situation.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36260

accrington fan wrote:

be a good idea if Snowy and Jamie1952 just played patting a ball over the net with each other doing private messages and not posting stuff on here knocking each other as the rest of us have to trawl through the comments on a topic they might be interested in themselves.

You’re right Accy l’ll ignore him unless he’s talking bollocks or selling politics.
Jamie apart, some people get on my nerves with constant points about the same subject, but I don’t want to stop them posting to please me,

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

Snowy wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

be a good idea if Snowy and Jamie1952 just played patting a ball over the net with each other doing private messages and not posting stuff on here knocking each other as the rest of us have to trawl through the comments on a topic they might be interested in themselves.

You’re right Accy l’ll ignore him unless he’s talking bollocks or selling politics.
Jamie apart, some people get on my nerves with constant points about the same subject, but I don’t want to stop them posting to please me,

Agree Snowy

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36260

Leggie43 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

be a good idea if Snowy and Jamie1952 just played patting a ball over the net with each other doing private messages and not posting stuff on here knocking each other as the rest of us have to trawl through the comments on a topic they might be interested in themselves.

You’re right Accy l’ll ignore him unless he’s talking bollocks or selling politics.
Jamie apart, some people get on my nerves with constant points about the same subject, but I don’t want to stop them posting to please me,

Agree Snowy

I also want to point out that even if me and Jamie have our ‘tiffs’, it wouldn’t be the same without a good old cross border chunter. :laugh:

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Bluestreak · **Posted:** Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:32 pm

At some point Snowy mentioned the railway station at Mainforth Terrace.
Here is a sketch of it by John Wigston in 1966 who was a local artist who specialised in Railway art.
Sorry it aint that clear but is on display in the Christ Church Art Gallery.

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mainsforthstation.jpg

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:34 pm

Also back of Palace pub Mainsforth Terrace 1971.

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Bluestreak · **Posted:** Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:54 pm

Snowy wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

I was at the station the other day and the staff seemed tight lipped about the opening of the new platform as if they have been warned. Whats going on here its coming up a year late.?
The work on the shopping centre has not started.
The Wesley has a man and a dog working on it.
The U Boat pen replica that is going to be not much more than swimming baths has at last started.
Church street is still awaiting its latest make over and the flagship "Shades" is still closed.
Whitby Street and Scarborough Street has a few developments but as soon as one opens another closes into disrepair.
The Clippy club is shut awaiting demolition as is the Engineers.
Smith & Graham have moved from their extensive premises in Church Street/Square to the Marina.
Teesworks seem to be nothing more than a site clearence exercise badged as major redevelopment.
The site of the Market pub and land opposite remains undeveloped.
The Staincliffe is boarded up and a car sales lot and the Longscar Hall is just a lot of weeds.
The Odeon........dear god!
The Heugh is falling down.
The town is a mess, on life support trying to keep open what is not sustainable for this type of town and population. Buildings should be repurposed or demolished and development needs to be kept in key areas.
AND.......we are a mid/lower National league club and will be for a long time.
Happy Easter everyone have a great time.

But beside that….?

The indoor market hallis barriered off from several entrances due to some structural problems. It only has 5 stalls in in why don't they move them to closed ships elsewhere and shut it for good. Crazy.
And while I am on the Burn Valley roundabout looks like a slate spoil heap in North Wales.
Rant over until the next time.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36260

Bluestreak wrote:

At some point Snowy mentioned the railway station at Mainforth Terrace.
Here is a sketch of it by John Wigston in 1966 who was a local artist who specialised in Railway art.
Sorry it aint that clear but is on display in the Christ Church Art Gallery.

Attachment:

mainsforthstation.jpg

The big window was the boardroom of the railway company and became the goods depot when the present station opened.
Pity a use couldn’t be found for it, it would have avoided having to view what’s on the site now.
The taxi place over the road used to be the site of a fine Victorian office building, it had various government depts, I recall you went there for drivers licences and tests as one of its functions.
So many f8ne buildings trashed and replaced with trash.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6994

Snowy wrote:

It seemed to be run by Councillors from Eston, the on in charge looked like Boycey of Fools n Horses but not as appealing, they were good at moving jobs out of town.
When the Marina started they had an alternative plan for the sight for social housing…looked like fill the docks on and create the unappealing ‘Central Estate on Sea’…I was convinced they were just trying to turn Hartlepool into a dormitory town.

Wasn’t Redcar in the running to get the Marina before Hartlepool ?

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6994

Snowy wrote:

Leggie43 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

be a good idea if Snowy and Jamie1952 just played patting a ball over the net with each other doing private messages and not posting stuff on here knocking each other as the rest of us have to trawl through the comments on a topic they might be interested in themselves.

You’re right Accy l’ll ignore him unless he’s talking bollocks or selling politics.
Jamie apart, some people get on my nerves with constant points about the same subject, but I don’t want to stop them posting to please me,

Agree Snowy

I also want to point out that even if me and Jamie have our ‘tiffs’, it wouldn’t be the same without a good old cross border chunter. :laugh:

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Thanks for that Snowy, much appreciated.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6994

derwent wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Leggie43 wrote:

Snowy you are wasting your time with this bloke. He really believes he is a cut above the the other members on this site. He is full of his own importance and will stoop very low to gain any advantage. rakxe

I reckon he got beat up at school and now carries a large chip on his shoulder. :laugh:

I also believe he has two user names Jamie and Jamie 52, I will apologise if proven wrong. rolf

I have only one user name Jamie1952, where did you get the idea I have two, i never got beat up at school, I was the one beating others up. I am from a working class background and certainly don’t see myself a cut above anyone else. A lot of my comments are factual, some of my opinions and info a certain poster always takes umbrage to them and some are tongue in cheek. The same poster on the Bunker has no sense of humour and reads them all as factual and turns to slagging me off. The particular poster is at his worst very early morning when he wakes up and before his early morning walk but mellows as the day goes on I have noticed.
Some of this post is tongue in cheek, read into it how you like Leggied43, does that mean you are 80 years old ?
Life is short, it’s not a dress rehearsal you have to some frivolity.

That is interesting Jamie. So you were the school bully boy. Puts a whole new face on the situation.

No I wasn’t the school bully tongue in cheek comment, I got pulled in by headmaster for threatening a kid who was bullying my young brother, think I was 10/11 years old, I can’t remember if I actually hit him. Headmaster was one of the old school firm but fair told me let my brother sort his own problems out.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36260

I got the strap first day at Tech….ln a Ginger on Ginger temper incident.
Neither could back down :laugh:

I made the mistake of telling my dad before the inevitable letter arrived, let’s say it was double the punishment.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18786

was never a bully or got bullied either. only used my size when it was needed. one good thing was that at my grammar school you never suffered much punishment if any for a playground fight as long as it was with someone in the same year as you. those caught giving a younger lad some stick got a saw arse for that day and thought twice about repeating their actions.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

Jamie1952 wrote:

derwent wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Leggie43 wrote:

Snowy you are wasting your time with this bloke. He really believes he is a cut above the the other members on this site. He is full of his own importance and will stoop very low to gain any advantage. rakxe

I reckon he got beat up at school and now carries a large chip on his shoulder. :laugh:

I also believe he has two user names Jamie and Jamie 52, I will apologise if proven wrong. rolf

I have only one user name Jamie1952, where did you get the idea I have two, i never got beat up at school, I was the one beating others up. I am from a working class background and certainly don’t see myself a cut above anyone else. A lot of my comments are factual, some of my opinions and info a certain poster always takes umbrage to them and some are tongue in cheek. The same poster on the Bunker has no sense of humour and reads them all as factual and turns to slagging me off. The particular poster is at his worst very early morning when he wakes up and before his early morning walk but mellows as the day goes on I have noticed.
Some of this post is tongue in cheek, read into it how you like Leggied43, does that mean you are 80 years old ?
Life is short, it’s not a dress rehearsal you have to some frivolity.

That is interesting Jamie. So you were the school bully boy. Puts a whole new face on the situation.

No I wasn’t the school bully tongue in cheek comment, I got pulled in by headmaster for threatening a kid who was bullying my young brother, think I was 10/11 years old, I can’t remember if I actually hit him. Headmaster was one of the old school firm but fair told me let my brother sort his own problems out.

That wasn't the impression you gave earlier Jamie. I was the one who beat OTHERS up you said. Now you were actually protecting your little brother. Two totally different accounts. I could ask which one is true but Ill leave it there.
You are your own biggest enemy chum. Instead of whinging and whining about people picking on you, have a look inwards and ask yourself if you're inviting it.

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

derwent wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

derwent wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Leggie43 wrote:

Snowy you are wasting your time with this bloke. He really believes he is a cut above the the other members on this site. He is full of his own importance and will stoop very low to gain any advantage. rakxe

I reckon he got beat up at school and now carries a large chip on his shoulder. :laugh:

I also believe he has two user names Jamie and Jamie 52, I will apologise if proven wrong. rolf

I have only one user name Jamie1952, where did you get the idea I have two, i never got beat up at school, I was the one beating others up. I am from a working class background and certainly don’t see myself a cut above anyone else. A lot of my comments are factual, some of my opinions and info a certain poster always takes umbrage to them and some are tongue in cheek. The same poster on the Bunker has no sense of humour and reads them all as factual and turns to slagging me off. The particular poster is at his worst very early morning when he wakes up and before his early morning walk but mellows as the day goes on I have noticed.
Some of this post is tongue in cheek, read into it how you like Leggied43, does that mean you are 80 years old ?
Life is short, it’s not a dress rehearsal you have to some frivolity.

That is interesting Jamie. So you were the school bully boy. Puts a whole new face on the situation.

No I wasn’t the school bully tongue in cheek comment, I got pulled in by headmaster for threatening a kid who was bullying my young brother, think I was 10/11 years old, I can’t remember if I actually hit him. Headmaster was one of the old school firm but fair told me let my brother sort his own problems out.

That wasn't the impression you gave earlier Jamie. I was the one who beat OTHERS up you said. Now you were actually protecting your little brother. Two totally different accounts. I could ask which one is true but Ill leave it there.
You are your own biggest enemy chum. Instead of whinging and whining about people picking on you, have a look inwards and ask yourself if you're inviting it.

On the money Derwent.

The bullying part he also uses on this board against other posters. I have no problem with opinions but blatant bullying is off the table in a football forum. The one thing I will also stand upto is bullying in any area of life there is simply no need for that anywhere. Its done by people who either lack self confidence or have been bullied themselves or both. rakxe

MutleyRules · **Joined:** Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:38 am **Posts:** 942

Bloody hell, I just can't believe this. I'm finally going to have to jump in on this.
Everytime Jamie posts something Leggie, Snowy and Derwent all jump on him. Started about 6/8 weeks ago and has been getting steadily worse ever since.
Can't believe youse' are now trying to say he's the bully!!

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6994

Keep out of it Leggie, it’s between me and Snowy with a little bit of input from Derwent, we have great craiche, keep your oar out of it, you sound like the type if there was a fight you would run in and kick the fella who was on the ground.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6994

Dustin Gee wrote:

Bloody hell, I just can't believe this. I'm finally going to have to jump in on this.
Everytime Jamie posts something Leggie, Snowy and Derwent all jump on him. Started about 6/8 weeks ago and has been getting steadily worse ever since.
Can't believe youse' are now trying to say he's the bully!!

Loving the craic on the Bunker, if we met up in a bar would we end up rolling about the floor, I think we are all a bit long in the tooth for that, we will stick to being keyboard warriors for now.

MutleyRules · **Joined:** Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:38 am **Posts:** 942

Jamie1952 wrote:

Keep out of it Leggie, it’s between me and Snowy with a little bit of input from Derwent, we have great craiche, keep your oar out of it, you sound like the type if there was a fight you would run in and kick the fella who was on the ground.

Yeah he just agrees with everything they say no matter what it is.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

Dustin Gee wrote:

Bloody hell, I just can't believe this. I'm finally going to have to jump in on this.
Everytime Jamie posts something Leggie, Snowy and Derwent all jump on him. Started about 6/8 weeks ago and has been getting steadily worse ever since.
Can't believe youse' are now trying to say he's the bully!!

Nice of you to jump in. If someone states "I was the one that beat ALL THE OTHERS UP" referring to his schooldays, what is your impression of that. My immediate thought was he was owning up to be the school bully. We all went to school and chances are we witnessed bullying and people who went around beating up other kids were bullies then and are bullies now.
He then changed his story to one of protecting his kid brother so which one do we believe. If he said that in the first place no one would have referred to that as bullying. I stuck up for my kid brother and knowing you as I do you would do the same.
He is not being bullied on here. His past history suggests he is using this forum to further his political agenda and was requested to curb it, which he has to some extent. We all take the piss on here and when you used to post regularly under another username you were a past master at it and we all appreciated your amazing wit.
Your jumping in, using whatever username is very welcome. I would relish a bit more contribution but the choice is yours as always.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

Dustin Gee wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Keep out of it Leggie, it’s between me and Snowy with a little bit of input from Derwent, we have great craiche, keep your oar out of it, you sound like the type if there was a fight you would run in and kick the fella who was on the ground.

Yeah he just agrees with everything they say no matter what it is.

I don't ask or require anybody to agree with me. You have every opportunity to disagree with any viewpoint I or anybody else makes. That's the name of the game.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6994

derwent wrote:

Dustin Gee wrote:

Bloody hell, I just can't believe this. I'm finally going to have to jump in on this.
Everytime Jamie posts something Leggie, Snowy and Derwent all jump on him. Started about 6/8 weeks ago and has been getting steadily worse ever since.
Can't believe youse' are now trying to say he's the bully!!

Nice of you to jump in. If someone states "I was the one that beat ALL THE OTHERS UP" referring to his schooldays, what is your impression of that. My immediate thought was he was owning up to be the school bully. We all went to school and chances are we witnessed bullying and people who went around beating up other kids were bullies then and are bullies now.
He then changed his story to one of protecting his kid brother so which one do we believe. If he said that in the first place no one would have referred to that as bullying. I stuck up for my kid brother and knowing you as I do you would do the same.
He is not being bullied on here. His past history suggests he is using this forum to further his political agenda and was requested to curb it, which he has to some extent. We all take the piss on here and when you used to post regularly under another username you were a past master at it and we all appreciated your amazing wit.
Your jumping in, using whatever username is very welcome. I would relish a bit more contribution but the choice is yours as always.

Derwent tell me what my political agenda is, I don’have one ?

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

Jamie1952 wrote:

derwent wrote:

Dustin Gee wrote:

Bloody hell, I just can't believe this. I'm finally going to have to jump in on this.
Everytime Jamie posts something Leggie, Snowy and Derwent all jump on him. Started about 6/8 weeks ago and has been getting steadily worse ever since.
Can't believe youse' are now trying to say he's the bully!!

Nice of you to jump in. If someone states "I was the one that beat ALL THE OTHERS UP" referring to his schooldays, what is your impression of that. My immediate thought was he was owning up to be the school bully. We all went to school and chances are we witnessed bullying and people who went around beating up other kids were bullies then and are bullies now.
He then changed his story to one of protecting his kid brother so which one do we believe. If he said that in the first place no one would have referred to that as bullying. I stuck up for my kid brother and knowing you as I do you would do the same.
He is not being bullied on here. His past history suggests he is using this forum to further his political agenda and was requested to curb it, which he has to some extent. We all take the piss on here and when you used to post regularly under another username you were a past master at it and we all appreciated your amazing wit.
Your jumping in, using whatever username is very welcome. I would relish a bit more contribution but the choice is yours as always.

Derwent tell me what my political agenda is, I don’have one ?

To put as much of your political view as you can on this forum. You have been asked by me, the moderator, and Mr I, the owner to curb it.
It is not for discussion Jamie. We have taken a view and you have been made aware of that view. In fairness you are trying to curb it, all we ask is you keep it up. As your grandad used to say, keep politics and religion out of it and you won't go far wrong. Listen to him.

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

Jamie1952 wrote:

Keep out of it Leggie, it’s between me and Snowy with a little bit of input from Derwent, we have great craiche, keep your oar out of it, you sound like the type if there was a fight you would run in and kick the fella who was on the ground.

No you are the bully

There you go again telling me not to post... banghead

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6994

derwent wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

derwent wrote:

Dustin Gee wrote:

Bloody hell, I just can't believe this. I'm finally going to have to jump in on this.
Everytime Jamie posts something Leggie, Snowy and Derwent all jump on him. Started about 6/8 weeks ago and has been getting steadily worse ever since.
Can't believe youse' are now trying to say he's the bully!!

Nice of you to jump in. If someone states "I was the one that beat ALL THE OTHERS UP" referring to his schooldays, what is your impression of that. My immediate thought was he was owning up to be the school bully. We all went to school and chances are we witnessed bullying and people who went around beating up other kids were bullies then and are bullies now.
He then changed his story to one of protecting his kid brother so which one do we believe. If he said that in the first place no one would have referred to that as bullying. I stuck up for my kid brother and knowing you as I do you would do the same.
He is not being bullied on here. His past history suggests he is using this forum to further his political agenda and was requested to curb it, which he has to some extent. We all take the piss on here and when you used to post regularly under another username you were a past master at it and we all appreciated your amazing wit.
Your jumping in, using whatever username is very welcome. I would relish a bit more contribution but the choice is yours as always.

Derwent tell me what my political agenda is, I don’have one ?

To put as much of your political view as you can on this forum. You have been asked by me, the moderator, and Mr I, the owner to curb it.
It is not for discussion Jamie. We have taken a view and you have been made aware of that view. In fairness you are trying to curb it, all we ask is you keep it up. As your grandad used to say, keep politics and religion out of it and you won't go far wrong. Listen to him.

Derwent I have no allegiance or political view on any party, I might have done in the past,it does make me smile when Snowy calls me Keir, he forgets it’s Sir Keir they are all middle of the road with Reform more to the right and irrespective of their manifestos it will not pull the U.K. out of the mire.
My only beef is Brexit, let’s not go there please, it will only open a can of worms on th board.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6994

Leggie43 wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Keep out of it Leggie, it’s between me and Snowy with a little bit of input from Derwent, we have great craiche, keep your oar out of it, you sound like the type if there was a fight you would run in and kick the fella who was on the ground.

No you are the bully

There you go again telling me not to post... banghead

Not bullying you, you jump in on a post we were discussing.

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

Dustin Gee wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Keep out of it Leggie, it’s between me and Snowy with a little bit of input from Derwent, we have great craiche, keep your oar out of it, you sound like the type if there was a fight you would run in and kick the fella who was on the ground.

Yeah he just agrees with everything they say no matter what it is.

You are wrong DG I have my own personal reason to call this bully a bully. Look back at the messages properly instead of jumping in protecting a bully.

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

Jamie1952 wrote:

Leggie43 wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Keep out of it Leggie, it’s between me and Snowy with a little bit of input from Derwent, we have great craiche, keep your oar out of it, you sound like the type if there was a fight you would run in and kick the fella who was on the ground.

No you are the bully

There you go again telling me not to post... banghead

Not bullying you, you jump in on a post we were discussing.

Did you or did you not attack me regarding my English

You look down your nose at posters on here
pretending to be the voice of the truth, pretending to know everything about everything and constantly telling us how you have travelled the World. Incidentally quite a few of us on here have also travelled the World but don't use that as a bulling tool.

You are a bully simples

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

Jamie1952 wrote:

derwent wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

derwent wrote:

Dustin Gee wrote:

Bloody hell, I just can't believe this. I'm finally going to have to jump in on this.
Everytime Jamie posts something Leggie, Snowy and Derwent all jump on him. Started about 6/8 weeks ago and has been getting steadily worse ever since.
Can't believe youse' are now trying to say he's the bully!!

Nice of you to jump in. If someone states "I was the one that beat ALL THE OTHERS UP" referring to his schooldays, what is your impression of that. My immediate thought was he was owning up to be the school bully. We all went to school and chances are we witnessed bullying and people who went around beating up other kids were bullies then and are bullies now.
He then changed his story to one of protecting his kid brother so which one do we believe. If he said that in the first place no one would have referred to that as bullying. I stuck up for my kid brother and knowing you as I do you would do the same.
He is not being bullied on here. His past history suggests he is using this forum to further his political agenda and was requested to curb it, which he has to some extent. We all take the piss on here and when you used to post regularly under another username you were a past master at it and we all appreciated your amazing wit.
Your jumping in, using whatever username is very welcome. I would relish a bit more contribution but the choice is yours as always.

Derwent tell me what my political agenda is, I don’have one ?

To put as much of your political view as you can on this forum. You have been asked by me, the moderator, and Mr I, the owner to curb it.
It is not for discussion Jamie. We have taken a view and you have been made aware of that view. In fairness you are trying to curb it, all we ask is you keep it up. As your grandad used to say, keep politics and religion out of it and you won't go far wrong. Listen to him.

Derwent I have no allegiance or political view on any party, I might have done in the past,it does make me smile when Snowy calls me Keir, he forgets it’s Sir Keir they are all middle of the road with Reform more to the right and irrespective of their manifestos it will not pull the U.K. out of the mire.
My only beef is Brexit, let’s not go there please, it will only open a can of worms on th board.

Jamie you can plead your case till you are blue in the face, I'm really not interested. All I am interested in is preventing anyone using the bunker to promote personal political agenda, which in my view you have been doing and have been asked to curb it. Your behaviour heretofore will determine whether I continue to have that view or not. Any further decisions I make will depend on that. End of.
As usual you want to turn this into a confrontational contest. Forget it. A decision has been made so it's up to you.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36260

Jamie1952 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

It seemed to be run by Councillors from Eston, the on in charge looked like Boycey of Fools n Horses but not as appealing, they were good at moving jobs out of town.
When the Marina started they had an alternative plan for the sight for social housing…looked like fill the docks on and create the unappealing ‘Central Estate on Sea’…I was convinced they were just trying to turn Hartlepool into a dormitory town.

Wasn’t Redcar in the running to get the Marina before Hartlepool ?

Just a rumour, was at the meeting at the a time of Cleveland’s death and there was no other option, just Hartlepool and Stockton benefited for a change.
Redcar would require a whole new structure built out into the sea, much more expensive than developing Hartlepool which had the perfect infrastructure and the only work on lock gates was the gates themselves as the basins were already in place…and it had the Middleton outer harbour which would allow vessels approaching in bad to reach the actual lock gates in a calmer sea state than directly from the North Sea….plus there’d have been no Historic Quay…no where to put it.

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