Rochdale predictions

barriewardrobe3 · **Joined:** Tue May 17, 2022 6:25 pm **Posts:** 303

Final 10 minutes it was like Rochdale had the extra man, they had a lot more possession and had 2 free kicks on the edge of our box.
That equalizer was a bit of a freak goal, but a half decent side would have been 2 or 3-0 up by then.

Johnjo1 · **Joined:** Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:52 pm **Posts:** 1625

Player who impressed me was their winger Cian Hayes only 20 on loan from Fleetwood. A proper winger something we are short of.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

Naw, we got Otis.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Leggie43 wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Knew it, I could see it coming !

Thought you were listening not watching

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5378

A big part of the problem is we still have so many players out injured thatthe starting 11 virtually picks itself and the bench is woeful. If we were chading the game who was going to come on ? Duffus!

As it was when Agyemang (who had a decent game) went off and Cooper came on I thought, 'Oh hell, here we go.' It was pretty much all 10 man Dale after that.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7065

I would have been happy with 3 points over Easter but was disappointed to lose the Rochdale game the way we did.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8916

Jamie1952 wrote:

I would have been happy with 3 points over Easter but was disappointed to lose the Rochdale game the way we did.

Happy for us to lose games.

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Ya could of said 4 or 6 points or even 2.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

I would have been happy with 3 points over Easter but was disappointed to lose the Rochdale game the way we did.

Happy for us to lose games.

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Ya could of said 4 or 6 points or even 2.

No one is happy to lose games but in life and in football you have to be realistic and adjust your expectations to suit the circumstances.
Expecting or demanding maximum points is making a rod for your own back.
Jamie was just being realistic.

The Kit Kat Kid · **Posted:** Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:18 am

It's all about perspective. We usually get bugger all at Rochdale. This year we were lucky, they had a man sent off instead of us ! It's the manner of conceding that people are raging about. Giving the ball away at the opposition's end of the pitch in such a manner was simply unforgivable. Don't imagine Cooper has enhanced his chances of winning a contract here next season. Maybe he doesn't want one ?

Eiphos_3 · **Posted:** Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:26 am

Teams around us before the easter break actually made some half decent loan signings - Gateshead again yesterday got a striker in from Crawley.

its absolute horse shit that KP isnt bringing in another RB and CM and also another winger to bring off the bench. But then again all of his signings so far have been crap. (Parkes & Waterfall confirmed not his so count them out). The whole its the end of the season and there isnt anyone about... rubbish. Lack of individual effort, thinking and willingness to keep the lead yet again ! we are not strong nor good enough to hold onto leads - we should not be sitting back or making silly subs like he did yesterday. Rather have Hastie and Paterson back and them come on and run about daft for 20 minutes !

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18922

Flying Hogans wrote:

A big part of the problem is we still have so many players out injured thatthe starting 11 virtually picks itself and the bench is woeful. If we were chading the game who was going to come on ? Duffus!

As it was when Agyemang (who had a decent game) went off and Cooper came on I thought, 'Oh hell, here we go.' It was pretty much all 10 man Dale after that.

no, we just matched them with only having 10 on the pitch ourselves. we deserved what we got in the end after getting a break with the sending off. know KP had to sort a leaky defence out but not to the extent of making us look clueless in the last third of the pitch. again its that bloody midfield thats crap again but someone had to knock parkes and waterfall for their lack of pace. was happy with a point at the start as in all my years i have never seen pools win there but how it finished was not acceptable. Know injuries to the wrong players have not helped us and players are guarenteed getting a place in the squad but thats the case for a lot of teams in this league but doubt it shows as much as it does with pools. really glad next saturday will be the last time i,ll see some of that lot live in a pools shirt.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18922

ToTheHartlepool2-0 wrote:

It seems like we are stretching it out and limping towards the finishing line. Expect Dorking will fight for their lives on that final day. Feels like we lost today.

thats the problem with draws. if it had been the other way round it would have felt like a win. 4 points over the easter period against 2 sides above us in the league is good on paper. however it should have been 6 but quite easily have been only 1.

harrogatepoolie · **Joined:** Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:35 pm **Posts:** 1126

Shocking performance. Seemed Luke a pre season game! No urgency, no creativity , just passing sideways and backwards. The midfield is not existent . Whey aren’t they trying to break up play and driving frward . Why are we not getting players ion the box. U am going to cancel my subscription . U thought Phillips was better than this . He talks different to how they play. Crawford and Cooke just not up to out. We need an adventure overhaul. The fans deserve better than this.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

harrogatepoolie wrote:

Shocking performance. Seemed Luke a pre season game! No urgency, no creativity , just passing sideways and backwards. The midfield is not existent . Whey aren’t they trying to break up play and driving frward . Why are we not getting players ion the box. U am going to cancel my subscription . U thought Phillips was better than this . He talks different to how they play. Crawford and Cooke just not up to out. We need an adventure overhaul. The fans deserve better than this.

From the post match interview, KP was pleased we were passing it side to side because he thought that way we might find an opening in their defence. I am no expert but I thought you beat a packed defence by getting behind them.

Do we know why Ageymang was taken off? Was he injured or just cream crackered?

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7065

Snowy wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

I would have been happy with 3 points over Easter but was disappointed to lose the Rochdale game the way we did.

Happy for us to lose games.

.
Ya could of said 4 or 6 points or even 2.

No one is happy to lose games but in life and in football you have to be realistic and adjust your expectations to suit the circumstances.
Expecting or demanding maximum points is making a rod for your own back.
Jamie was just being realistic.

I meant 4 points, not 3 Snowy, I didn’t check my post before submitting it, pull your horns in !

harrogatepoolie · **Joined:** Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:35 pm **Posts:** 1126

Agree thought Ageymang was one of the better players. At least driving forward. Phillips looks annoyed but up to him to mpose his philosophy. Too many players pedestrian . The Barnet game should be the blue Prunt to how we play

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad · **Posted:** Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:39 am

Mani D had an opportunity to block the ball forward by their guy for the goal but just didn't close him down, granted Cooper shouldn't have given the ball away so cheaply and thirdly how did Jameson miss it?

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3919

The initial mistake by Cooper was shocking. But let's not forget the ball was lost deep in their half near the touchline - no closing down by Mani D, Joe and another just immediately turned and ran into our own half leaving their man with time to pick a target and launch it forward. Rodney had defenders around him and the keeper looked favourite to win the ball yet none of them had the presence of mind to clean him out in the dying seconds of the game. Lots of mistakes to be honest, Cooper was never going to the corner as he has an aversion to taking a tackle.
Not sure where the ref got so much added time from either?
2 points too easily gifted to a poor 10 man team.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5378

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

harrogatepoolie wrote:

Shocking performance. Seemed Luke a pre season game! No urgency, no creativity , just passing sideways and backwards. The midfield is not existent . Whey aren’t they trying to break up play and driving frward . Why are we not getting players ion the box. U am going to cancel my subscription . U thought Phillips was better than this . He talks different to how they play. Crawford and Cooke just not up to out. We need an adventure overhaul. The fans deserve better than this.

From the post match interview, KP was pleased we were passing it side to side because he thought that way we might find an opening in their defence. I am no expert but I thought you beat a packed defence by getting behind them.

Do we know why Ageymang was taken off? Was he injured or just cream crackered?

Think any team with a man advantage for the entire second half would be told to move the ball around and wear the 10 men out chasing after it. It all worked fine for a while - got the goal and could have had a couple more, but letting Rochdale take control in the last 15 minutes was poor. They had a couple of people to bring off the bench who made a difference and we had - Cooper. Enough said.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Jamie1952 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

I would have been happy with 3 points over Easter but was disappointed to lose the Rochdale game the way we did.

Happy for us to lose games.

.
Ya could of said 4 or 6 points or even 2.

No one is happy to lose games but in life and in football you have to be realistic and adjust your expectations to suit the circumstances.
Expecting or demanding maximum points is making a rod for your own back.
Jamie was just being realistic.

I meant 4 points, not 3 Snowy, I didn’t check my post before submitting it, pull your horns in !

I was referring to me Jamie with the 4 points :laugh:

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

loyal_fan wrote:

Everyone knocking one out over Waterfall and Parkes but not sure we need both of them, one of them with Mani O who has more pace maybe a better option

oh dear oh dear I know it was April Fools Day but that really is pushing it…. :laugh:

By the way, talk of ‘knocking one out over……?’ …begs the question ….killip? :laugh:

waddell · **Joined:** Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:18 pm **Posts:** 321

loyal_fan wrote:

Everyone knocking one out over Waterfall and Parkes but not sure we need both of them, one of them with Mani O who has more pace maybe a better option

Bring back Askey
Bring back Killip
Bring back Mani O..oh.oh oh
And did I hear you use the word "Parody" recently?
Mani the Fanny?
Oh YOU really are taking the piss matey

Sedgefield Poolie · **Joined:** Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:42 pm **Posts:** 56

Mani O will never be a better option than Parkes and Waterfall. How many goals have his mistakes cost us this season? Nearly as many as Ferguson and that takes some doing.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

Mani O needs a Parkes or waterfall with him but there is an argument he compliments them better than they do each other

As for killip I would rather we got a new keeper but he is better than the 2 we have currently

waddell · **Joined:** Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:18 pm **Posts:** 321

loyal_fan wrote:

Mani O needs a Parkes or waterfall with him but there is an argument he compliments them better than they do each other

There is an argument that you have a clue.
I personally am reluctant to make that argument.
But as always you have a right to your opinion... and even a vote at the next general election.
Crazy or what.
Sorry Arthur :laugh:

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

loyal_fan wrote:

Mani O needs a Parkes or waterfall with him but there is an argument he compliments them better than they do each other

Stunning… you obviously keep a cautious distance from reality.

waddell · **Joined:** Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:18 pm **Posts:** 321

If you can bear to watch it again...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuL-NdoSuYA

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Everyone knocking one out over Waterfall and Parkes but not sure we need both of them, one of them with Mani O who has more pace maybe a better option

oh dear oh dear I know it was April Fools Day but that really is pushing it…. :laugh:

By the way, talk of ‘knocking one out over……?’ …begs the question ….killip? :laugh:

Is it true Loyal you have a large poster of Killip topless on your bedroom wall with stains on. :laugh:

RichyHpool · **Posted:** Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:47 pm

Mani O needs binned in the summer, he started the season fairly well but he's been a liability for months now.

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

RichyHpool wrote:

Mani O needs binned in the summer, he started the season fairly well but he's been a liability for months now.

Spot on Richy

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Leggie43 wrote:

RichyHpool wrote:

Mani O needs binned in the summer, he started the season fairly well but he's been a liability for months now.

Spot on Richy

Mani looked ok compared to what we had. Parkes and Waterfall turn up and you see the gulf clearly.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

Leggie43 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Everyone knocking one out over Waterfall and Parkes but not sure we need both of them, one of them with Mani O who has more pace maybe a better option

oh dear oh dear I know it was April Fools Day but that really is pushing it…. :laugh:

By the way, talk of ‘knocking one out over……?’ …begs the question ….killip? :laugh:

Is it true Loyal you have a large poster of Killip topless on your bedroom wall with stains on. :laugh:

Absolutely NOT …. It’s bottomless bbolt

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Mani O needs a Parkes or waterfall with him but there is an argument he compliments them better than they do each other

Stunning… you obviously keep a cautious distance from reality.

I like Parkes and Waterfall at this level, just suggesting a little one paced but I do agree we have far bigger issues to worry about !

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

loyal_fan wrote:

Leggie43 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Everyone knocking one out over Waterfall and Parkes but not sure we need both of them, one of them with Mani O who has more pace maybe a better option

oh dear oh dear I know it was April Fools Day but that really is pushing it…. :laugh:

By the way, talk of ‘knocking one out over……?’ …begs the question ….killip? :laugh:

Is it true Loyal you have a large poster of Killip topless on your bedroom wall with stains on. :laugh:

Absolutely NOT …. It’s bottomless bbolt

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7065

loyal_fan wrote:

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Mani O needs a Parkes or waterfall with him but there is an argument he compliments them better than they do each other

Stunning… you obviously keep a cautious distance from reality.

I like Parkes and Waterfall at this level, just suggesting a little one paced but I do agree we have far bigger issues to worry about !

I watched the highlights a few times, one of the defenders should have took one for the team even if it meant a rugby tackle, the keeper stuck a leg out, he should have thrown himself at Rodney instead of falling on his a***.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

loyal_fan wrote:

Leggie43 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Everyone knocking one out over Waterfall and Parkes but not sure we need both of them, one of them with Mani O who has more pace maybe a better option

oh dear oh dear I know it was April Fools Day but that really is pushing it…. :laugh:

By the way, talk of ‘knocking one out over……?’ …begs the question ….killip? :laugh:

Is it true Loyal you have a large poster of Killip topless on your bedroom wall with stains on. :laugh:

Absolutely NOT …. It’s bottomless bbolt

I can actually believe that.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Jamie1952 wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Mani O needs a Parkes or waterfall with him but there is an argument he compliments them better than they do each other

Stunning… you obviously keep a cautious distance from reality.

I like Parkes and Waterfall at this level, just suggesting a little one paced but I do agree we have far bigger issues to worry about !

I watched the highlights a few times, one of the defenders should have took one for the team even if it meant a rugby tackle, the keeper stuck a leg out, he should have thrown himself at Rodney instead of falling on his a***.

Jamie, I watched it unfurl live before my eyes and I thought what you thought…but 10 seconds after the event…not as it happens.
It always looks easier to stop when reviewed later and you compose your thought but in reality it’s on the spur of the moment.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8916

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

harrogatepoolie wrote:

Shocking performance. Seemed Luke a pre season game! No urgency, no creativity , just passing sideways and backwards. The midfield is not existent . Whey aren’t they trying to break up play and driving frward . Why are we not getting players ion the box. U am going to cancel my subscription . U thought Phillips was better than this . He talks different to how they play. Crawford and Cooke just not up to out. We need an adventure overhaul. The fans deserve better than this.

From the post match interview, KP was pleased we were passing it side to side because he thought that way we might find an opening in their defence. I am no expert but I thought you beat a packed defence by getting behind them.

Do we know why Ageymang was taken off? Was he injured or just cream crackered?

Cudent find our players with his passes n crosses.
Surprised he lasted as long as he did to be fair.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8916

Eiphos_3 wrote:

Teams around us before the easter break actually made some half decent loan signings - Gateshead again yesterday got a striker in from Crawley.

its absolute horse shit that KP isnt bringing in another RB and CM and also another winger to bring off the bench. But then again all of his signings so far have been crap. (Parkes & Waterfall confirmed not his so count them out). The whole its the end of the season and there isnt anyone about... rubbish. Lack of individual effort, thinking and willingness to keep the lead yet again ! we are not strong nor good enough to hold onto leads - we should not be sitting back or making silly subs like he did yesterday. Rather have Hastie and Paterson back and them come on and run about daft for 20 minutes !

With no TW we still had the opportunity to smash our way into the playoffs.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18922

Jamie1952 wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Mani O needs a Parkes or waterfall with him but there is an argument he compliments them better than they do each other

Stunning… you obviously keep a cautious distance from reality.

I like Parkes and Waterfall at this level, just suggesting a little one paced but I do agree we have far bigger issues to worry about !

I watched the highlights a few times, one of the defenders should have took one for the team even if it meant a rugby tackle, the keeper stuck a leg out, he should have thrown himself at Rodney instead of falling on his a***.

it was a carbon copy though of goals we have conceeded over the last few seasons.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3919

Naive in the extreme that nobody cleaned him out in the dying seconds of the game.
Mind we should really have gone for the jugular when they went down to 10 men.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

One thing that came to me was how Rodney got quite a bit of stick on when he played for us and became a sort of hero for the Doncaster game that then ended in tears.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4375

derwent wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

derwent wrote:

Fair play to the Dale keeper as he definitely kept them in it but once again we managed to gift a goal at the death to throw away two points.
A blind man could see it coming.
One goal is very rarely got us a win this season, I think it has happened twice but we never learn.
A hopeful punt over the top and three players and the goalie, who all converged on the ball at the same time, couldn't combine to stop Rodney. Schoolboy errors.
If KP does get next season out of the job then he has got to get this "one goal is enough" out of his head.
Second half we should have ran them ragged, especially on what looked like a heavy pitch but our slow pedantic and laborious build up led to our downfall........again. Another two points lost.
I know I should be happy with an away point but not happy after watching that performance.
A lot of work has to be done to fashion a side worthy of the title "promotion contenders" for next season in my humble opinion.

Its not me that thinks his tactics are dreadful then?

I have no idea who else, along with you, thinks his tactics are dreadful. I have never said that, so you're asking the wrong person.
I'm saying I don't agree with the particular tactic of sitting on a one goal lead.
However if he chooses to keep doing it then that's up to him. He's the one who ultimately takes the responsibility but I think you already know that.

Well he has tried it a few times now and failed miserably, you would think the penny may drop.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3919

Is it the manager or the players that decide to defend when we go a goal up? It's been going on for years and we know Askey said often enough they were told what to do but never followed instructions.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

PTID wrote:

Is it the manager or the players that decide to defend when we go a goal up? It's been going on for years and we know Askey said often enough they were told what to do but never followed instructions.

You’re right there, it’s been a trait with most of this lot for a couple of years.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

PTID wrote:

Is it the manager or the players that decide to defend when we go a goal up? It's been going on for years and we know Askey said often enough they were told what to do but never followed instructions.

That's a good question. If it is certain players then if I was him they would be the first to go. Refusing to follow instructions is intolerable and should actually be a sacking offence, contract or no contract. On the other hand if it is KP's idea then I would suggest he ditches it ASAP.

Johnjo1 · **Joined:** Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:52 pm **Posts:** 1625

Problem is when a team is only one goal down they throw the kitchen sink at you near the end and have nothing to lose you have little option but to defend your lead.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

They got lucky, if it had been us I’d have said the same.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18922

Snowy wrote:

They got lucky, if it had been us I’d have said the same.

like against halifax a few days before. think concentrating on just one game alone does not give the whole picture. anyone who had watched both games must surely feel that we did not deserve more than 4 points out of both.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

accrington fan wrote:

Snowy wrote:

They got lucky, if it had been us I’d have said the same.

like against halifax a few days before. think concentrating on just one game alone does not give the whole picture. anyone who had watched both games must surely feel that we did not deserve more than 4 points out of both.

You take what you can get by hook or by crook and not what you deserve.

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