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 Post subject: What a difference a minute makes
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:23 pm 
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Winning 1-0 on the way to three points then the referee decides to play another minute after the original five on the board. In that extra minute they get the equaliser and out come the attacks on the team and manager. If he played the five only we win and then very few come on here and criticise the manager and players. Not saying we played good just pointing out what difference a minute can make in this game. Funny old game football like :roll:


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If Cooper had taken the ball into the corner it wouldnt have mattered about the extra minute.


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If Cooper had taken the ball into the corner it wouldnt have mattered about the extra minute.



True frankie but he didn't did he. :roll:


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Even if we had won I'd still think the performance was poor. They probably should have scored earlier but for a great save. Obviously passions run high after an ending to a game like that but it just feels like an absolute kick in the nuts!


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According to Craig Hignet on radio Tees Cooper was on his way to the corner when he tried a back heel syrely he should have made certain there was a Pools player there to receive the ball hence what happened


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Even if we had won I'd still think the performance was poor. They probably should have scored earlier but for a great save. Obviously passions run high after an ending to a game like that but it just feels like an absolute kick in the nuts!


Agree Richy :wink:


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According to Craig Hignet on radio Tees Cooper was on his way to the corner when he tried a back heel syrely he should have made certain there was a Pools player there to receive the ball hence what happened


He never quite made it to the corner and stupidly tried to back heel onto the defender to win a throw it. Despite Colchester fans saying he is a good player all I have witnessed so far is headless chicken totally fk usless :roll:


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Even if we had won I'd still think the performance was poor. They probably should have scored earlier but for a great save. Obviously passions run high after an ending to a game like that but it just feels like an absolute kick in the nuts!

Their keeper made two great saves as well don’t forget….fact is most had this down for a defeat… I was gutted, but that’s football

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Watching the match I'm surprised how many of their players were loanee’s.

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To be honest quite a lot of people round me just laughed at the end. Come to expect it and that was particularly abject. We bumble on.


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Rochdale go a man down and we parade around the pitch like billy big bollocks.
Sidewards/Backwards continously, So much so that the match became totally boring.

Thats why people are pissed off, Its the manner of the players.


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I thought their goalkeeper was playing central midfield.


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I thought their goalkeeper was playing central midfield.

Was crying out for someone to have a shot from their own half, even just to make him think twice… he was miles out!


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Sure Phillips will be furiously turd polishing between now and the next game…2 games undefeated, 4 points across the holiday period a good return etc….lets not mention Gateshead, it’s football it happens…


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Problem with loan players - doesnt really give a shit and it didnt matter to him what the outcome of a wayward pass in the 90th odd minute did. Didnt think cos he didnt have too cos he didnt care - hopefully never plays a minute for us again the little waste of space !


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Mikey76 wrote:
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I thought their goalkeeper was playing central midfield.

Was crying out for someone to have a shot from their own half, even just to make him think twice… he was miles out!

apart from the two new lads at the back i doubt we have a player who could kick the ball that far.


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According to Craig Hignet on radio Tees Cooper was on his way to the corner when he tried a back heel syrely he should have made certain there was a Pools player there to receive the ball hence what happened


He never quite made it to the corner and stupidly tried to back heel onto the defender to win a throw it. Despite Colchester fans saying he is a good player all I have witnessed so far is headless chicken totally fk usless :roll:

even before his mistake yesterday i have thought he,s the worst loan player we have brought in this season. someone had to be and he gets my vote.


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Problem with loan players - doesnt really give a shit and it didnt matter to him what the outcome of a wayward pass in the 90th odd minute did. Didnt think cos he didnt have too cos he didnt care - hopefully never plays a minute for us again the little waste of space !


If possible i would end his loan today, Or at least keep him away from the first team on match day.
I would rather have a couple of the kids on the bench.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
Eiphos_3 wrote:
Problem with loan players - doesnt really give a shit and it didnt matter to him what the outcome of a wayward pass in the 90th odd minute did. Didnt think cos he didnt have too cos he didnt care - hopefully never plays a minute for us again the little waste of space !


If possible i would end his loan today, Or at least keep him away from the first team on match day.
I would rather have a couple of the kids on the bench.


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Eiphos_3 wrote:
Problem with loan players - doesnt really give a shit and it didnt matter to him what the outcome of a wayward pass in the 90th odd minute did. Didnt think cos he didnt have too cos he didnt care - hopefully never plays a minute for us again the little waste of space !


If possible i would end his loan today, Or at least keep him away from the first team on match day.
I would rather have a couple of the kids on the bench.


I agree.

same here and i could take their mistakes as you know for a fact they,d be hurting like we are. you,d know at the worst their heart is in the right place even if their feet weren,t.


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Sure Phillips will be furiously turd polishing between now and the next game…2 games undefeated, 4 points across the holiday period a good return etc….lets not mention Gateshead, it’s football it happens…

In your imagination, you really haven’t liked the bloke since day one and boy does it show….one good thing it stops you pining for Killip and Askey to return. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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On friday in our game v Chorley, we had the ball over the line just before half time and it wasnt given. 4 minutes were added on to the first half and in the 5th minute of stoppage time the ref gives them a penalty which they score giving us just time to kick the ball to restart the game.
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Snowy wrote:
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Sure Phillips will be furiously turd polishing between now and the next game…2 games undefeated, 4 points across the holiday period a good return etc….lets not mention Gateshead, it’s football it happens…

In your imagination, you really haven’t liked the bloke since day one and boy does it show….one good thing it stops you pining for Killip and Askey to return. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:



I didn’t like the whole situation when he was brought in
Takeover turned down, fans legitimately asking what’s next and suddenly Phillips comes in singing the chairman’s praises and people are told to get behind team and put all legitimate linger term questions behind them, all seemed a bit smoke and mirrors to me.
Here we are a couple of months later treading water again at best with none of the longer term questions answered and a manager who doesn’t appear based on recruitment, performances and statements to be anything more than average at best.
People can of course have different opinions and I would love to be proved wrong, hopefully some good signings and a coherent way of playing all backed by a decent budget is to come..


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Sure Phillips will be furiously turd polishing between now and the next game…2 games undefeated, 4 points across the holiday period a good return etc….lets not mention Gateshead, it’s football it happens…


Phillips should put a couple of the kids on the bench, You know Localish lads, With hearts.


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loyal_fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
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Sure Phillips will be furiously turd polishing between now and the next game…2 games undefeated, 4 points across the holiday period a good return etc….lets not mention Gateshead, it’s football it happens…

In your imagination, you really haven’t liked the bloke since day one and boy does it show….one good thing it stops you pining for Killip and Askey to return. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:



I didn’t like the whole situation when he was brought in
Takeover turned down, fans legitimately asking what’s next and suddenly Phillips comes in singing the chairman’s praises and people are told to get behind team and put all legitimate linger term questions behind them, all seemed a bit smoke and mirrors to me.
Here we are a couple of months later treading water again at best with none of the longer term questions answered and a manager who doesn’t appear based on recruitment, performances and statements to be anything more than average at best.
People can of course have different opinions and I would love to be proved wrong, hopefully some good signings and a coherent way of playing all backed by a decent budget is to come..


Piece of friendly advice, Don,t hold your breath.


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Think you're being slightly disingenuous there loyal - we have been much better since Phillips came in. We've won games, Shored up the defence and managed a few clean sheets. The teams we've lost to have all been in the playoffs bar Kiddy, if we're counting that game, as he wasn't in the dugout.

That's not say that it's all been rosy- it hasn't- obviously being mauled by the Heed and the last minute equalisers against Woking, Eastleigh and Rochdale have been reality checks. But also shown up the teams shortcomings, that can now be hopefully addressed during the close season.
Phillips by his own admission said that they are not fit enough- which might explain some of the injuries we've had. I can't remember a season like it.

As others have said on other threads- we at least have a spine of a team to build a squad around, once everyone is fit. And unlike Askey and Curle before him, all the shite that Hartley saddled us with will be off the books and free up quite a lot in wages

I would also suggest that you can't polish turds - however you can dip them in glitter! :dance:


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Phillips only played the fit enough card after Gateshead…while also taking 100% responsibility if you can work that one out.

He may turn out good (I hope so) but that Gateshead game was a debacle from him in terms of tactics and trying to stop the flow, he was a like a rabbit in the headlights, reminded me a bit of Hartley after the Walsall game….oh fuck I am in trouble here…


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On friday in our game v Chorley, we had the ball over the line just before half time and it wasnt given. 4 minutes were added on to the first half and in the 5th minute of stoppage time the ref gives them a penalty which they score giving us just time to kick the ball to restart the game.
Infuriating isn't it!


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Phillips only played the fit enough card after Gateshead…while also taking 100% responsibility if you can work that one out.…

Why? Can’t you work it out.

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Phillips only played the fit enough card after Gateshead…while also taking 100% responsibility if you can work that one out.…

Why? Can’t you work it out.


Yes I suspect the 100% my responsibility was something he thought
Would sound good before then giving a litany of reasons why it wasn’t really his fault, although in fairness too him not much you can say after a 7-1 pumping which you sat frozen through with zero clue how to limit the damage
(trying to remember the last time we lost by that many? Maybe Crewe in the league cup in the mid 90s) last league one i remember that bad was Plymouth.


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loyal_fan wrote:
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Phillips only played the fit enough card after Gateshead…while also taking 100% responsibility if you can work that one out.…

Why? Can’t you work it out.


Yes I suspect the 100% my responsibility was something he thought
Would sound good before then giving a litany of reasons why it wasn’t really his fault, although in fairness too him not much you can say after a 7-1 pumping which you sat frozen through with zero clue how to limit the damage
(trying to remember the last time we lost by that many? Maybe Crewe in the league cup in the mid 90s) last league one i remember that bad was Plymouth.

He did what any manager worth his salt would do, he took the blame for the performance even though he obviously wasn’t on the pitch and deflected the blame from the players…is that concept too difficult to comprehend?
If you proclaim yourself to be so gifted you can read his mind, why don’t you step up to the mark and take over…we could do with a good laugh.

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Snowy wrote:
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Phillips only played the fit enough card after Gateshead…while also taking 100% responsibility if you can work that one out.…

Why? Can’t you work it out.


Yes I suspect the 100% my responsibility was something he thought
Would sound good before then giving a litany of reasons why it wasn’t really his fault, although in fairness too him not much you can say after a 7-1 pumping which you sat frozen through with zero clue how to limit the damage
(trying to remember the last time we lost by that many? Maybe Crewe in the league cup in the mid 90s) last league one i remember that bad was Plymouth.

He did what any manager worth his salt would do, he took the blame for the performance even though he obviously wasn’t on the pitch and deflected the blame from the players…is that concept too difficult to comprehend?
If you proclaim yourself to be so gifted you can read his mind, why don’t you step up to the mark and take over…we could do with a good laugh.


But he didn’t do that did he ? He initially said it was on him then came
Out and with a litany of the players failures including fitness David Brent would have been proud !


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But he didn’t do that did he ? He initially said it was on him then came
Out and with a litany of the players failures including fitness David Brent would have been proud ![/quote]

You must have a lot of time on your hands if you choose to spend it dissecting every post-match interview from the manager. When Askey knew he was in for pelters, as often as not he'd send out Sweeney to take the flak.

I just watched KP's interview after the Rochdale game and can sum it up in 4 words - he's pissed off :lol:


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But he didn’t do that did he ? He initially said it was on him then came
Out and with a litany of the players failures including fitness David Brent would have been proud !


You must have a lot of time on your hands if you choose to spend it dissecting every post-match interview from the manager. When Askey knew he was in for pelters, as often as not he'd send out Sweeney to take the flak.

I just watched KP's interview after the Rochdale game and can sum it up in 4 words - he's pissed off :lol:[/quote]

He might want to take a ticket and join
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Rochdale go a man down and we parade around the pitch like billy big bollocks.
Sidewards/Backwards continously, So much so that the match became totally boring.

Thats why people are pissed off, Its the manner of the players.


I turned it off even at 1 nil up never thought id see the day i syarted doing that, but god how inept are we playing pointless passes letting them all get into position. Then when we try out lose it straight away. Im afraid this manager has been a major dissapointment after the great start he made, negative bore fest tactics.


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Just listened to his post match interview, worse than the Gateshead one….spenda most of it blaming the players and saying he can’t believe their decision making, and then says ‘I take 100% responsibility’
Almost feel sorry for him and in fairness all recent pools managers get to this stage, he has just got there a lot faster than most


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Just listened to his post match interview, worse than the Gateshead one….spenda most of it blaming the players and saying he can’t believe their decision making, and then says ‘I take 100% responsibility’
Almost feel sorry for him and in fairness all recent pools managers get to this stage, he has just got there a lot faster than most


Its an almost impossible job he has but it still doesnt stop him from being positive and having a go. We all know sitting back hasnt worked and will never work with these players.


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Just listened to his post match interview, worse than the Gateshead one….spenda most of it blaming the players and saying he can’t believe their decision making, and then says ‘I take 100% responsibility’
Almost feel sorry for him and in fairness all recent pools managers get to this stage, he has just got there a lot faster than most


It’s an almost impossible job he has but it still doesnt stop him from being positive and having a go. We all know sitting back hasnt worked and will never work with these players.

They’re not his players, some have their infuriating way of playing regardless of instruction and been allowed to get away with it hence previous managers eventual frustration after initial bright starts.
I expect them to be gone at the end of the season…… plus, due to injuries, the team picks itself anyway.

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loyal_fan wrote:
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Phillips only played the fit enough card after Gateshead…while also taking 100% responsibility if you can work that one out.…

Why? Can’t you work it out.


Yes I suspect the 100% my responsibility was something he thought
Would sound good before then giving a litany of reasons why it wasn’t really his fault, although in fairness too him not much you can say after a 7-1 pumping which you sat frozen through with zero clue how to limit the damage
(trying to remember the last time we lost by that many? Maybe Crewe in the league cup in the mid 90s) last league one i remember that bad was Plymouth.

He did what any manager worth his salt would do, he took the blame for the performance even though he obviously wasn’t on the pitch and deflected the blame from the players…is that concept too difficult to comprehend?
If you proclaim yourself to be so gifted you can read his mind, why don’t you step up to the mark and take over…we could do with a good laugh.


But he didn’t do that did he ? He initially said it was on him then came
Out and with a litany of the players failures including fitness David Brent would have been proud !

You are a blatant and habitual nit picker who’d argue black was white .
You obviously disliked the bloke from day one and have the inability to change your mind, once you set out on a course you just barge on regardless and keep droning on like a child wanting a bag of sweets….your Killip and Askey obsession are proof of that and you’ve slagged off every keepers performance since Killip’s departure and are now doing the same with Phillips after Askey…whoever came in after them would be attacked…..seek help.

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Sure Phillips will be furiously turd polishing between now and the next game…2 games undefeated, 4 points across the holiday period a good return etc….lets not mention Gateshead, it’s football it happens…

In your imagination, you really haven’t liked the bloke since day one and boy does it show….one good thing it stops you pining for Killip and Askey to return. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:



I didn’t like the whole situation when he was brought in
Takeover turned down, fans legitimately asking what’s next and suddenly Phillips comes in singing the chairman’s praises and people are told to get behind team and put all legitimate linger term questions behind them, all seemed a bit smoke and mirrors to me.
Here we are a couple of months later treading water again at best with none of the longer term questions answered and a manager who doesn’t appear based on recruitment, performances and statements to be anything more than average at best.
People can of course have different opinions and I would love to be proved wrong, hopefully some good signings and a coherent way of playing all backed by a decent budget is to come..


Fully understand your carding concerns.
We can only hope that come August we hit the ground running for more than 7 games this time.
UTP.
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 Post subject: Re: What a difference a minute makes
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:30 am 
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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Rochdale go a man down and we parade around the pitch like billy big bollocks.
Sidewards/Backwards continously, So much so that the match became totally boring.

Thats why people are pissed off, Its the manner of the players.


I turned it off even at 1 nil up never thought id see the day i syarted doing that, but god how inept are we playing pointless passes letting them all get into position. Then when we try out lose it straight away. Im afraid this manager has been a major dissapointment after the great start he made, negative bore fest tactics.

what gets me is we actually never look like scoring till we actually do. no camping out in the opposition half anymore and with our opponents you can always feel a goal is coming from them. can understand why KP has concentrated more on clean sheets after some of our defensive messes, but without attacking you aint going to score therefore finding wins more difficult now. if we want a better season next we have to be good all over the pitch and not just rely on one part of our play.


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 Post subject: Re: What a difference a minute makes
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:58 pm 
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accrington fan wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
Rochdale go a man down and we parade around the pitch like billy big bollocks.
Sidewards/Backwards continously, So much so that the match became totally boring.

Thats why people are pissed off, Its the manner of the players.


I turned it off even at 1 nil up never thought id see the day i syarted doing that, but god how inept are we playing pointless passes letting them all get into position. Then when we try out lose it straight away. Im afraid this manager has been a major dissapointment after the great start he made, negative bore fest tactics.

what gets me is we actually never look like scoring till we actually do. no camping out in the opposition half anymore and with our opponents you can always feel a goal is coming from them. can understand why KP has concentrated more on clean sheets after some of our defensive messes, but without attacking you aint going to score therefore finding wins more difficult now. if we want a better season next we have to be good all over the pitch and not just rely on one part of our play.


I think Pools biggest fear was by going all out attack Rochdale would get a breakaway and score, it was fear factor when you have some one like Rodney upfront and whist we have 2 decent centre half’s they both lack pace of course the inevitable happened.


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