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 Post subject: Final Consortium Offer.
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 Post subject: Re: Final Consortium Offer.
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The latest offer is on the table from the consortium.

have stated it’s their final offer to Chairman Raj Singh.

The deadline is set for Friday lunchtime.

For those that don,t do Fbook like me.


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The latest offer is on the table from the consortium.

have stated it’s their final offer to Chairman Raj Singh.

The deadline is set for Friday lunchtime.

For those that don,t do Fbook like me.


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So the ball is back in Raj's court. Hopefully we'll get a positive outcome and not be left in limbo with Raj staying but wanting to go and the consortium having already left the building.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
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The latest offer is on the table from the consortium.

have stated it’s their final offer to Chairman Raj Singh.

The deadline is set for Friday lunchtime.

For those that don,t do Fbook like me.


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Would find it hard to understand Raj if this offer is rejected. He's stated no other offers have been viable and reiterated that he want's to stop funding the club. Also look forward to hearing who comprises this consortium if their bid is successful.


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This has turned into a massive week for the club. Fingers crossed it turns out well.


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 Post subject: Re: Final Consortium Offer.
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If the new offer is within striking distance of what Raj wants then there is no reason a deal can't be done.
I still think he just might want to carry on.
I keep looking for clues and the biggest one is the appointment of KP. Kev is obviously aware of what's going on and yet had no hesitation in taking the job, even though the possibility of a new owner could be imminent. He's said he's going to be backed by Raj but if Raj isn't there that's a non starter unless the consortium have also said the same thing.
Would it hurt if the consortium said in the event of a takeover the deal struck between the club and Kev has their backing.
That would also convince these new players allegedly lined up to make a quick decision.
We need new faces in sooner rather than later. It must be obvious to all concerned that the squad needs strengthening and the quicker the better.

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Jamie1952 wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
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The latest offer is on the table from the consortium.

have stated it’s their final offer to Chairman Raj Singh.

The deadline is set for Friday lunchtime.

For those that don,t do Fbook like me.


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 Post subject: Re: Final Consortium Offer.
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Doubt that will impress Raj.

Theres a big differance between Talking and a Ultimatum, May have played into his hands with that statement.

Hands up who likes a Ultimatum.

Having said that and Raj does actually want out (not convinced), Think he, being the seller should have put an acceptable (to him) price on the table
Then worked it from there.

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 Post subject: Re: Final Consortium Offer.
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If Mr Singh rejects this improved "offer" I do hope he has the good sense to make a clear statement as to his reasons for doing so.
I also hope he does this as early as possible, and well before this dramatic "deadline" he has been given by HUST of High Noon Friday. :roll:
It doesn't need to drag on till then surely to God.
Let's all know by tomorrow please.

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It might not impress him but he wanted it doing quick so balls in his court now. He cant now turn around and say no ones been interested.


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I personally don't think Raj wants to really sell, so he has a choice, sell up or don't.

If he doesn't, I fear things will only get worse for him going forward and if he sells and things fail, he'll will say.. "I told you SO"


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Whatever happens and I think that we owe much appreciation to the Trust and the consortium for trying.


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 Post subject: Re: Final Consortium Offer.
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All depends how improved the offer is ‘restructured’
Sounds like it’s about timing of when he gets his money, which isn’t great at would prefer a clean slate


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
It might not impress him but he wanted it doing quick so balls in his court now. He cant now turn around and say no ones been interested.


Surely he's getting what he wanted.
Someone else to take over the running costs of the Football Club.

Winner
Winner
Chicken Dinner.

But..... Things could change between now and the York game.


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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
Whatever happens and I think that we owe much appreciation to the Trust and the consortium for trying.


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Its all down to this - but i dont like the way its been set out.

publicly putting the spot light on Raj and giving him the ultimatum ???

I feel like the HUST know fine well they are not going to get the club from Raj - this is a massive Bluff for them to get Raj to finally come out and say look, the club wont be sold until im happy with X amount etc... then we may just find out some more solid truth in the matter.

The last few days and the public announcement from both parties just dont sit right. Usually this sort of stuff is all done behind closed doors. We would of found out about these sorts of demands and deadlines after the even so to speak.

I just have a funny feeling Raj wont walk away nor will he sell to the HUST consortium. More in this ... watch this space


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 Post subject: Re: Final Consortium Offer.
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If Raj Singh accepts this offer I might be going to Pools on Saturday for the first time since March 7th 2020. The last home game before Covid.

I stopped going when the cost of a Senior Concession ST was doubled and the qualifying age raised from 60 to 65. Prior to that I'd gone every season since 67/68 and the last 20 seasons as a ST holder. I wonder how many more stopped going becuase of that fine piece of decision making.


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If Raj Singh accepts this offer I might be going to Pools on Saturday for the first time since March 7th 2020. The last home game before Covid.

I stopped going when the cost of a Senior Concession ST was doubled and the qualifying age raised from 60 to 65. Prior to that I'd gone every season since 67/68 and the last 20 seasons as a ST holder. I wonder how many more stopped going becuase of that fine piece of decision making.


Ive stayed away a fair bit new owners would have me back week in week out. I wont support a guy who has run the club into the ground any longer.

The consortium have played a blinder telling raj its a take it or leave it offer, he came out in public Saturday setting the scene for the blame game and its coming right back at him.


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If Raj stays and releases a statement saying he will fund the club and brings in a Russ Green type and takes a back seat surely that isn't a disaster?

Interesting times these next few days


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The one saving grace from all of this is.... he cant spit his dummy out no longer with the whole " ill walk away" ...

fine pal you do that.. take your unpaid debts with you .. and let the consortium start from a clean slate and not having to give you a penny.

we know it wont work like that but the ball is well and truly in his court !!!


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He didn't blame the consortium though did he, he blamed the fact that there were no offers forv9 months of the club being for sale.


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Sigma1908 wrote:
If Raj stays and releases a statement saying he will fund the club and brings in a Russ Green type and takes a back seat surely that isn't a disaster?

Interesting times these next few days


That is the likely outcome :wink:


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The one saving grace from all of this is.... he cant spit his dummy out no longer with the whole " ill walk away" ...

This is very true, interesting to see what he decides to do.


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ZNB12 wrote:
Eiphos_3 wrote:
The one saving grace from all of this is.... he cant spit his dummy out no longer with the whole " ill walk away" ...

This is very true, interesting to see what he decides to do.

might have accepted the offer a month or so back but now he is digging his heals in.wonder also if the last few days has changed his opinion on pools a bit and is like us by feeling more optimistic again and fancies getting involved again.


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You have to say it's a final offer otherwise Raj will just keep asking for more. It's like saying tell us what you'll accept if you don't think this offer is good enough. That's all. It's not really an ultimatum. That will come after they threaten to walk away unless he is reasonable.


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Wonder if Raj be there tonight or if he's traveled to Chelsea to watch the Boro?


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Wonder if Raj be there tonight or if he's traveled to Chelsea to watch the Boro?

might depend if he was promised a free meal and ticket down there.


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It had to be done but I can't see RS reacting well to it. They could basically have put out a statement saying shit or get off the pot.


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accrington fan wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Eiphos_3 wrote:
The one saving grace from all of this is.... he cant spit his dummy out no longer with the whole " ill walk away" ...

This is very true, interesting to see what he decides to do.

might have accepted the offer a month or so back but now he is digging his heals in.wonder also if the last few days has changed his opinion on pools a bit and is like us by feeling more optimistic again and fancies getting involved again.


After one win versus Ebbsfleet, the hiring of an unproven manager and a public dispute over a takeover. This isn’t directed at you Accrington, but more a barometer of the lunacy of being a pools fan when those things are cause for optimism again!

Because the inevitable will always occur. UNTIL… we are freed and we can move into a new era of Pools ownership.


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accrington fan wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Eiphos_3 wrote:
The one saving grace from all of this is.... he cant spit his dummy out no longer with the whole " ill walk away" ...

This is very true, interesting to see what he decides to do.

might have accepted the offer a month or so back but now he is digging his heals in.wonder also if the last few days has changed his opinion on pools a bit and is like us by feeling more optimistic again and fancies getting involved again.


After one win versus Ebbsfleet, the hiring of an unproven manager and a public dispute over a takeover. This isn’t directed at you Accrington, but more a barometer of the lunacy of being a pools fan when those things are cause for optimism again!

Because the inevitable will always occur. UNTIL… we are freed and we can move into a new era of Pools ownership.


Aparently Raj was there tonight, and not down at Stamford Bridge, and he will have hopefully decided I have had enough of this and hand over the reins to the consortium on Friday.

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My personal view for what it's worth - is that Raj won't be dictated to/ pushed around by anybody so I fully expect him to reject whatever offer is on the table. I'm also not convinced he really wants to leave as he quite likes the badge of owning a football club. Nor do I think he'll liquidate or put the club in admin given how it ended in loidland.

Reckon he's decided to have another roll of the dice with KP. With that in mind just got to hope he backs the gaffer as he has promised him. At least the scotch deadwood has been shipped out and duff loans terminated - so should have freed up some budget for 2 or 3 half decent signings.

The ball definitely is in Raj's court- but he'll only jump on HIS terms.


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BillinghamPoolie wrote:
thebigdog wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Eiphos_3 wrote:
The one saving grace from all of this is.... he cant spit his dummy out no longer with the whole " ill walk away" ...

This is very true, interesting to see what he decides to do.

might have accepted the offer a month or so back but now he is digging his heals in.wonder also if the last few days has changed his opinion on pools a bit and is like us by feeling more optimistic again and fancies getting involved again.


After one win versus Ebbsfleet, the hiring of an unproven manager and a public dispute over a takeover. This isn’t directed at you Accrington, but more a barometer of the lunacy of being a pools fan when those things are cause for optimism again!

Because the inevitable will always occur. UNTIL… we are freed and we can move into a new era of Pools ownership.


Aparently Raj was there tonight, and not down at Stamford Bridge, and he will have hopefully decided I have had enough of this and hand over the reins to the consortium on Friday.


Has to do the right thing now.
Last nite just rubber stamped it.


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I get the impression this debate will be still going on in a months time.
Ah well, there’s an awful inevatability about this.

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Exactly, this clamour to do the right thing is ridiculous, we don't know what the right thing is regarding the asking price and the offer. The right thing for Raj is getting what he regards as an acceptable price for the club.
Think about it, you put your house up for sale for say £200k and some chancer offers you say £125k would you accept because the buyer really wants your house and its doing the right thing?


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If the penny didn't drop last nite it never will.
If he has to right off a slight loss it's self inflicted thru continuous mistakes.

Could stay n build up more so called losses.
He's been offered what he wanted and stated a while back.
Someone else to take over the day to day running costs.
See what Friday brings.


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He's never said what he wanted, and we don't know what that is or what's been offered. It's his club and his asset, he's entitled to hold out for whatever he deems is an acceptable offer.
This clamour for him to write off money he feels is due to him us absolute lunacy, none of us would.


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He's never said what he wanted, and we don't know what that is or what's been offered. It's his club and his asset, he's entitled to hold out for whatever he deems is an acceptable offer.
This clamour for him to write off money he feels is due to him us absolute lunacy, none of us would.


Like raj said no one been interested in buying the club under him, so whats his choice sell this week or lose everything? Or has he told us porkies in the past and a few more have been interested in the club than he has let on. The club is dead under him, walking through the leagues. Its either take a 6 figure sum and have debt paid back to him or watch the club be worth nothing.


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It's his choice to do as he pleases. The club was dead without him. Your certainty about us being dead if he stays is ridiculous he's the same bloke that took us up once.
He's told KP there's a budget for players so he's obviously still trying to improve us. Who knows it might pay off?
Have the consortium said were going to be bringing in a new team on Saturday if their bid is accepted btw? Have they even said they'll bring in a single new player, or will their funds have run out just on the purchase of the club?


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It's his choice to do as he pleases. The club was dead without him. Your certainty about us being dead if he stays is ridiculous he's the same bloke that took us up once.
He's told KP there's a budget for players so he's obviously still trying to improve us. Who knows it might pay off?
Have the consortium said were going to be bringing in a new team on Saturday if their bid is accepted btw? Have they even said they'll bring in a single new player, or will their funds have run out just on the purchase of the club?


The new consortium might be an utter disaster, but we can carry on as things are, see how it pans out. Its been going well the last 2 years hasnt it?

He has told kp theirs a budget for players, oh i thought he was leaving after all the abuse? So he isnt leaving now? That budget is basically release a load of players to bring some of your own in, this budget of his hasnt worked now for 2 years, how long is an inexperienced guy going to last under him 3 to 6 months max, unless he is sone sort of genius.


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Have the consortium said were going to be bringing in a new team on Saturday if their bid is accepted btw? Have they even said they'll bring in a single new player, or will their funds have run out just on the purchase of the club?


Good point Mr PTID.
Just thought about that myself. :doh:
"Club.Community.United.That's it in a nutshell.Together.United".
Mmmm....catchy that... and all sounds all well and good. https://www.hufcsupporterstrust.org.uk/
But....if Mr Singh decides to walk this week and accept the HUST "offer"... whatever that consists of..does this mean the HUST consortium has the money available on tap NOW to back the new manager NOW with new players, which is what is clearly so desperately needed?
Or will that be dependent on the amount of debt they can access NOW from their loan shark friend, with a town/club connection apparently, whoever that maybe?
Maybe HUST would like to clarify this in their next press release?


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Have the consortium said were going to be bringing in a new team on Saturday if their bid is accepted btw? Have they even said they'll bring in a single new player, or will their funds have run out just on the purchase of the club?


Good point Mr PTID.
Just thought about that myself. :doh:
Club.Community.United
That's it in a nutshell
Together.United.
Mmmm....catchy that... and all sounds all well and good. https://www.hufcsupporterstrust.org.uk/
But....if Mr Singh decides to walk this week and accept the HUST "offer"... whatever that consists of..does this mean the consortium has money available on tap NOW to back the new manager NOW with new players which is what is clearly needed.
Or will that be dependent on the amount of debt they are able to access from their loan shark friend with a town/club connection whoever that maybe?


Desperation at this point. May well be clutching at straws, but surely it can be better than this? :violin:


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Aparently Raj was there tonight, and not down at Stamford Bridge, and he will have hopefully decided I have had enough of this and hand over the reins to the consortium on Friday.

after watching the second half last night i,d cut my losses and sell to the first reasonable offer just to get out of the place as quickly as i could and not get shit thrown at my direction from the majority of poolies. he even gets blame for the team playing bad for gods sake. if pools were a car it would be sold as spares or repairs that needed much work and money thrown at it to get it back on the road.


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Aparently Raj was there tonight, and not down at Stamford Bridge, and he will have hopefully decided I have had enough of this and hand over the reins to the consortium on Friday.

after watching the second half last night i,d cut my losses and sell to the first reasonable offer just to get out of the place as quickly as i could and not get shit thrown at my direction from the majority of poolies. he even gets blame for the team playing bad for gods sake. if pools were a car it would be sold as spares or repairs that needed much work and money thrown at it to get it back on the road.


Singh gets the blame for the team playing bad because he appointed the managers who signed the current players, the blame ultimately lies with him.


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Aparently Raj was there tonight, and not down at Stamford Bridge, and he will have hopefully decided I have had enough of this and hand over the reins to the consortium on Friday.

after watching the second half last night i,d cut my losses and sell to the first reasonable offer just to get out of the place as quickly as i could and not get shit thrown at my direction from the majority of poolies. he even gets blame for the team playing bad for gods sake. if pools were a car it would be sold as spares or repairs that needed much work and money thrown at it to get it back on the road.


Singh gets the blame for the team playing bad because he appointed the managers who signed the current players, the blame ultimately lies with him.


Does that mean we should praise him on the rare occasions we win?

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 Post subject: Re: Final Consortium Offer.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:11 am 
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derwent wrote:
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Aparently Raj was there tonight, and not down at Stamford Bridge, and he will have hopefully decided I have had enough of this and hand over the reins to the consortium on Friday.

after watching the second half last night i,d cut my losses and sell to the first reasonable offer just to get out of the place as quickly as i could and not get shit thrown at my direction from the majority of poolies. he even gets blame for the team playing bad for gods sake. if pools were a car it would be sold as spares or repairs that needed much work and money thrown at it to get it back on the road.


Singh gets the blame for the team playing bad because he appointed the managers who signed the current players, the blame ultimately lies with him.


Does that mean we should praise him on the rare occasions we win?


He was praised when we got promoted. Rightly so.


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 Post subject: Re: Final Consortium Offer.
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Singh gets the blame for the team playing bad because he appointed the managers who signed the current players, the blame ultimately lies with him.


Does that mean we should praise him on the rare occasions we win?

oh for the days when we were not interested in who owners and directors were and clubs basically had to run with what they got through the gates where teams with the highest number of fans succeeded and those with less didn,t. now its all about owners and the deepness of their pockets. we have reached a situation where pools could actually improve if nobody attended games but the owner was in the top hundred or so wealthy people in the world.


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