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 Post subject: At war with Yemen?
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According to this morning's news it would seem that way. That whole area of the world now becoming a tinderbox of multiplying conflict.

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Not sure why Sunak thinks the UK should police the world?
Look out for increased terror threats for UK nationals abroad and within the UK.


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Yemen has looked like the way Gaza does now but been so for the past 20 years because of their Civil War, they don’t even like each other.
As for the ‘attack’ ..these terror group characters have launched rockets at commercial shipping, unfortunately they weren’t clever enough to realise their launch sites would be picked up on sophisticated radar. That’s what’s been attacked, launch sites in the desert.
We ain’t invading anywhere, just having a spat with a terror group.

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Not sure why Sunak thinks the UK should police the world?
Look out for increased terror threats for UK nationals abroad and within the UK.

The terror threats are taking place now when they attack shipping, that will effect you in the pocket.

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Escorting commercial shipping would be a better deterrent with less chance of retaliation against us. Or patrolling the area with multi national warships would help. Retaliatory strikes by the UK and US just makes us targets now.
Sunak is desperate for a "Falklands moment" in order to gain votes imo.


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We know or believe it's a measured response but we also know fine well that Iran, Russia and China will be hell bent on exaggerating the level for their own agenda.

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Not sure why Sunak thinks the UK should police the world?
Look out for increased terror threats for UK nationals abroad and within the UK.

we always seem to love putting our nose into foreign affairs and not just those in parliament either. we are not a super power or world leader anymore and quicker we become more neutral on issues the better.


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Not sure why Sunak thinks the UK should police the world?
Look out for increased terror threats for UK nationals abroad and within the UK.

we always seem to love putting our nose into foreign affairs and not just those in parliament either. we are not a super power or world leader anymore and quicker we become more neutral on issues the better.


Yep. We could have left it to the Yanks like everyone else did. Being the US of A's faithful sidekick has rarely done us any favours - and none at all with 'Irish Joe' Biden.


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Escorting commercial shipping would be a better deterrent with less chance of retaliation against us. Or patrolling the area with multi national warships would help. Retaliatory strikes by the UK and US just makes us targets now.
Sunak is desperate for a "Falklands moment" in order to gain votes imo.

Patrolling the area with warships is what’s happening now, to protect shipping they are launching missiles on the sites where they being fired from .
Pointless protecting shipping without retaliating….it serves no purpose whatsoever.
Convoys in the war were protected and U boats attacked

No one is invading anywhere, the country is a basket case all of their own making and even we left in the 60’s as they wanted to run the place themselves and most squaddies were glad to see the back of it.

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No one is invading anywhere, the country is a basket case all of their own making and even we left in the 60’s as they wanted to run the place themselves and most squaddies were glad to see the back of it.

funny how all these countries who wanted to run the show themselves are either basket cases or corrupt but we still send out foreign aid to so many of them. the young male population will be already moving out to eventually join us later in the year. really even in rhodesia and south africa has the populationof the black population really improved by just getting a vote.


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But why have the UK grasped the nettle and joined the US in retaliating, there's very few UK registered commercial shipping needs protecting is there?


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But why have the UK grasped the nettle and joined the US in retaliating, there's very few UK registered commercial shipping needs protecting is there?

to win the general public over who are increasingly getting totally sick of us following the usa in anything they can.


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But why have the UK grasped the nettle and joined the US in retaliating, there's very few UK registered commercial shipping needs protecting is there?

Oh dear, sometimes it’s not the owner it’s the cargo that you and yours depend on to live your comfortable lives. The Iranians have hijacked a US flagged tanker and are taking into an Iranian port, this spooks the markets and oil prices shoot up.
So you can stand by wagging your finger or nip it in the bud.
You must excuse me, I’m a realist.

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just gives em a good opportunity to put oil prices up like any weather not being totally perfect does for food price increases.


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I understand the economics of the situation, and the logistics of diverting around South Africa. What I don't understand is why we're getting involved when other countries haven't eg the EU mainstays of Germany and France.


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I understand the economics of the situation, and the logistics of diverting around South Africa. What I don't understand is why we're getting involved when other countries haven't eg the EU mainstays of Germany and France.

They never do, unless their collective arms are twisted, they aint what they used to be…beside which the German navy ain’t that big in ship numbers anyway.

I should point out that most oil cargoes already are around the Cape due to the sheer size of the vessels, coincidentally my monthly edition of ‘Ships’ magazine features the trade and putting prices up because of the Yemen fracas would be unjustifiable as regards oil, but the Iranians hijacking tankers is another matter. They’re already in trouble with India for attacking one of their tankers.
I suspect with the growth of the opposition to the Iranian regime they’ll be hoping to distract their citizens attention elsewhere.

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Let’s be honest when all the kids wherever see their own being shot bombed etc by the western world all that does is make them want revenge, it’s a never ending circle.


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Not so long ago I thought the Christmas message was "PEACE ON EARTH AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN"

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Yemen has looked like the way Gaza does now but been so for the past 20 years because of their Civil War, they don’t even like each other.
As for the ‘attack’ ..these terror group characters have launched rockets at commercial shipping, unfortunately they weren’t clever enough to realise their launch sites would be picked up on sophisticated radar. That’s what’s been attacked, launch sites in the desert.
We ain’t invading anywhere, just having a spat with a terror group.



Snowy they either use mobile weapon launchers which they can move about and they have no hesitation in hiding them in civilian areas like schools, hospitals etc. We need boots on the ground which there are probably are already tracking where the weapons and storage sites are.


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PTID wrote:
Not sure why Sunak thinks the UK should police the world?
Look out for increased terror threats for UK nationals abroad and within the UK.


I have no wish to defend Sunak but I dont think he or anyone else believes the UK should "police the world".


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What is a concern is the young single men who crossed the channel in the boats mostly Muslims, where will their sympathies lie ?


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Yemen has looked like the way Gaza does now but been so for the past 20 years because of their Civil War, they don’t even like each other.
As for the ‘attack’ ..these terror group characters have launched rockets at commercial shipping, unfortunately they weren’t clever enough to realise their launch sites would be picked up on sophisticated radar. That’s what’s been attacked, launch sites in the desert.
We ain’t invading anywhere, just having a spat with a terror group.


I believe the idea is to allow shipping to use the Red Sea without some fecking Jihadi firing missiles and drones at them. The last attack involved projectiles being fired directly at UK and US warships. What are we supposed to do? Turn the other cheek?


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Not so long ago I thought the Christmas message was "PEACE ON EARTH AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN"

That didn't last long?


I dont think the Houthis got the memo.


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Yemen has looked like the way Gaza does now but been so for the past 20 years because of their Civil War, they don’t even like each other.
As for the ‘attack’ ..these terror group characters have launched rockets at commercial shipping, unfortunately they weren’t clever enough to realise their launch sites would be picked up on sophisticated radar. That’s what’s been attacked, launch sites in the desert.
We ain’t invading anywhere, just having a spat with a terror group.



Snowy they either use mobile weapon launchers which they can move about and they have no hesitation in hiding them in civilian areas like schools, hospitals etc. We need boots on the ground which there are probably are already tracking where the weapons and storage sites are.

Keep up with the technology, they can easily be tracked once the first batch is launched….once they give away their initial location the tracking starts immediately of any movement in theatre.
We don’t need boots on the ground, once you go you stay, we got out of there years ago and don’t need to go back. I worked with lads who served in Aden and they despised the place and everything to do with it.

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Snowy wrote:
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Snowy wrote:
Yemen has looked like the way Gaza does now but been so for the past 20 years because of their Civil War, they don’t even like each other.
As for the ‘attack’ ..these terror group characters have launched rockets at commercial shipping, unfortunately they weren’t clever enough to realise their launch sites would be picked up on sophisticated radar. That’s what’s been attacked, launch sites in the desert.
We ain’t invading anywhere, just having a spat with a terror group.



Snowy they either use mobile weapon launchers which they can move about and they have no hesitation in hiding them in civilian areas like schools, hospitals etc. We need boots on the ground which there are probably are already tracking where the weapons and storage sites are.

Keep up with the technology, they can easily be tracked once the first batch is launched….once they give away their initial location the tracking starts immediately of any movement in theatre.
We don’t need boots on the ground, once you go you stay, we got out of there years ago and don’t need to go back. I worked with lads who served in Aden and they despised the place and everything to do with it.


What I mean by boots on the ground is some thing like the SAS who could identify targets,
I believe they can use technology to direct missiles to the targets.


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Not sure why Sunak thinks the UK should police the world?
Look out for increased terror threats for UK nationals abroad and within the UK.


I have no wish to defend Sunak but I dont think he or anyone else believes the UK should "police the world".


There are quite a few countries involved in this, do we stand back and let terrorists rule the oceans attacking merchant shipping at will ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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Jamie1952 wrote:
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Yemen has looked like the way Gaza does now but been so for the past 20 years because of their Civil War, they don’t even like each other.
As for the ‘attack’ ..these terror group characters have launched rockets at commercial shipping, unfortunately they weren’t clever enough to realise their launch sites would be picked up on sophisticated radar. That’s what’s been attacked, launch sites in the desert.
We ain’t invading anywhere, just having a spat with a terror group.



Snowy they either use mobile weapon launchers which they can move about and they have no hesitation in hiding them in civilian areas like schools, hospitals etc. We need boots on the ground which there are probably are already tracking where the weapons and storage sites are.

Keep up with the technology, they can easily be tracked once the first batch is launched….once they give away their initial location the tracking starts immediately of any movement in theatre.
We don’t need boots on the ground, once you go you stay, we got out of there years ago and don’t need to go back. I worked with lads who served in Aden and they despised the place and everything to do with it.


What I mean by boots on the ground is some thing like the SAS who could identify targets,
I believe they can use technology to direct missiles to the targets.

The SAS were active in this area back in the 60’s and early 70’s and did keep order in that sense, but it’s easier with new technology as the scoot and shoot method of firing their missiles is no guarantee of safety anymore.

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I understand the economics of the situation, and the logistics of diverting around South Africa. What I don't understand is why we're getting involved when other countries haven't eg the EU mainstays of Germany and France.

French warships have now turned up to join us and the yanks.

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Not so long ago I thought the Christmas message was "PEACE ON EARTH AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN"

That didn't last long?


"PEACE ON EARTH AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN"

Thats probably the Epilogue in the bible, Another book of fairy tales.


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Snowy wrote:
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Yemen has looked like the way Gaza does now but been so for the past 20 years because of their Civil War, they don’t even like each other.
As for the ‘attack’ ..these terror group characters have launched rockets at commercial shipping, unfortunately they weren’t clever enough to realise their launch sites would be picked up on sophisticated radar. That’s what’s been attacked, launch sites in the desert.
We ain’t invading anywhere, just having a spat with a terror group.



Snowy they either use mobile weapon launchers which they can move about and they have no hesitation in hiding them in civilian areas like schools, hospitals etc. We need boots on the ground which there are probably are already tracking where the weapons and storage sites are.

Keep up with the technology, they can easily be tracked once the first batch is launched….once they give away their initial location the tracking starts immediately of any movement in theatre.
We don’t need boots on the ground, once you go you stay, we got out of there years ago and don’t need to go back. I worked with lads who served in Aden and they despised the place and everything to do with it.


A member of my family worked in Yemen years ago, And was shot at (from distance) in the desert on a regular basis.
The water ways MUST be maintained, Should never let those types succeed.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
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Not so long ago I thought the Christmas message was "PEACE ON EARTH AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN"

That didn't last long?


"PEACE ON EARTH AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN"

Thats probably the Epilogue in the bible, Another book of fairy tales.


They don’t read the Bible in the Middle East, it means nothing to them.
By the way, we aren’t at war with Yemen, the government of Yemen is also at war with the Tooty Frooties as it happens.

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Technically, we be at war with Iran, as they supply and fund the Tooty frooties :laugh: :laugh: (Houthis)


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Technically, we be at war with Iran, as they supply and fund the Tooty frooties :laugh: :laugh: (Houthis)

I prefer Tooty Frooties, it makes them more piss takeable. :laugh:

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Technically, we be at war with Iran, as they supply and fund the Tooty frooties :laugh: :laugh: (Houthis)


Indeed, without the "help" of Iran The Tooty Frooties would be no more than a gang of raggy arsed nutters waving AK47s.


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I bet the packaging round the missiles for the Tooti Frootie’s includes the message ‘pointy end up’.

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I bet the packaging round the missiles for the Tooti Frootie’s includes the message ‘pointy end up’.

Instructions, you need Fizz Wizz and a bottle of Coke to launch!!


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What is a concern is the young single men who crossed the channel in the boats mostly Muslims, where will their sympathies lie ?




All at a hotel near you soon..


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All at a hotel near you soon..

Not soon.

Not soon NOW, I walk pass them 2 times every day, to and from my local train station. All hanging around, on Their iPhones, dealing drugs in front of everyone and smoking blow.

After all, these twats don't have any money and running for their lives, but seem to have more money than me. banghead banghead :angry-tappingfoot:

I'm going to get a free holiday this year, take the girls to Folkestone and take them out in a dinghy... Thinking free 4* hotel, food and money for a few weeks, all expenses paid by the wonderful UK tax payers. :dance: :dance:


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Not soon NOW, I walk pass them 2 times every day, to and from my local train station. All hanging around, on Their iPhones, dealing drugs in front of everyone and smoking blow.

After all, these twats don't have any money and running for their lives, but seem to have more money than me. banghead banghead :angry-tappingfoot:

I'm going to get a free holiday this year, take the girls to Folkestone and take them out in a dinghy... Thinking free 4* hotel, food and money for a few weeks, all expenses paid by the wonderful UK tax payers. :dance: :dance:

said at the outset that they had money just to get a place on the dinghy. they were never the poor as was made out. why is there so much security around these places. its obviously not to keep them in but to stop others finding out whats going on and put it up on you tube or report it elsewhere. some of these can speak english but flatly refuse to speak to anyone. guess they are following orders as there is always some gobshite usually quick to speak about anything.


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Not soon NOW, I walk pass them 2 times every day, to and from my local train station. All hanging around, on Their iPhones, dealing drugs in front of everyone and smoking blow.

After all, these twats don't have any money and running for their lives, but seem to have more money than me. banghead banghead :angry-tappingfoot:

I'm going to get a free holiday this year, take the girls to Folkestone and take them out in a dinghy... Thinking free 4* hotel, food and money for a few weeks, all expenses paid by the wonderful UK tax payers. :dance: :dance:

said at the outset that they had money just to get a place on the dinghy. they were never the poor as was made out. why is there so much security around these places. its obviously not to keep them in but to stop others finding out whats going on and put it up on you tube or report it elsewhere. some of these can speak english but flatly refuse to speak to anyone. guess they are following orders as there is always some gobshite usually quick to speak about anything.

The ones in the Ibis hotel near my station are all young men in the mid 20 to 40's. They all living the life of Riley and even some as working for Just Eat or Deliveroo for McDonald's across the road (as reported in the local news) earning around £2000 per month, on someone else's N.I number. As you say a lot of security around the hotel entrance and make you feel uncomfortable when they all hanging around the walk way to the road on way home.


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You cant show weakness against some of these terror groups, turning a blind eye is weakness, first its the seas next it be the land. Just because its not attacking leafy surrey doesnt mean we shouldnt retaliate.


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I think some people in the media really show their utter ignorance about this tosh in Yemen, they’re a ragbag collection of the permanently angry which seems par for the Middle East in general.
I’m beginning to think Obama and Blair made a big mistake getting rid of the strong men who kept things under control…the boats crossing the Med didn’t start until Gadaffi was gone…maybe the poster boys ‘Arab spring’ was a middle aged students fantasy….. that’s turned into a nightmare.

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Technically, we be at war with Iran, as they supply and fund the Tooty frooties :laugh: :laugh: (Houthis)


The western allies are at war with Russia then as we supply arms to Ukraine ?


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Couldnt help noticing the usual BBC bias on National News. Not simply reporting facts but dropping dark hints that that this was a serious escalation rather than a reasonable step to prevent international shipping from being attacked.


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I think some people in the media really show their utter ignorance about this tosh in Yemen, they’re a ragbag collection of the permanently angry which seems par for the Middle East in general.
I’m beginning to think Obama and Blair made a big mistake getting rid of the strong men who kept things under control…the boats crossing the Med didn’t start until Gadaffi was gone…maybe the poster boys ‘Arab spring’ was a middle aged students fantasy….. that’s turned into a nightmare.


And Saddam Hussein, they both ruled with an iron fist but kept their people inline one way or another not always in humane way but surely better than it is nowadays.They also encouraged the Arab spring in Syria but that’s an even bigger nightmare.


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My dad always said, get rid of Hussein and Gadaffi the world would become a dangerous place. How right he was!


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But why have the UK grasped the nettle and joined the US in retaliating, there's very few UK registered commercial shipping needs protecting is there?



We wouldn't have this problem if Trump and Farage were in charge,eh.


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We have nukes standing idle.


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ZNB12 wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:



All at a hotel near you soon..

Not soon.

Not soon NOW, I walk pass them 2 times every day, to and from my local train station. All hanging around, on Their iPhones, dealing drugs in front of everyone and smoking blow.

After all, these twats don't have any money and running for their lives, but seem to have more money than me. banghead banghead :angry-tappingfoot:





Just wait till the government starts tearing up the listed buildings in your area and tweaks every law in history to turn them into a HMO with a shared bathroom.. :wink:


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Sussex UK wrote:
ZNB12 wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:



All at a hotel near you soon..

Not soon.

Not soon NOW, I walk pass them 2 times every day, to and from my local train station. All hanging around, on Their iPhones, dealing drugs in front of everyone and smoking blow.

After all, these twats don't have any money and running for their lives, but seem to have more money than me. banghead banghead :angry-tappingfoot:





I've moved on from there, Believe me..Just wait till the government starts tearing up listed buildings in your area and tweaks every law in history to turn them into a HMO with a shared bathroom.. :wink:

Already started to happen here. A nice 1950's cinema converted to a HMO....


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