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 Post subject: Rwanda Benefits.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:23 pm 
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To diversify from Bravermans letter and the next move by the government what are the benefits of sending 200 Asylum Seekers to Rwanda costing £140 million, it doesn’t appear to be discouraging the channel crossings and how are you going to force people on to a flight ?
They say their claims can be processed in Rwanda, what difference does that make, it’s actually been quoted they could sent back to the country they come from, yeh I can’t actually see them rushing to board a flight to Rwanda ?


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I gather the original idea was that Rwanda would be a detterent: pay people smuggers arrive in UK get sent to Rwanda. Clearly not going to happen, its dead in the water. However, if a democratically elected government choose to make a law, why should judges have the power to overturn the that law? Do the judges now rule this country? It stinks.


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Agree governments do stink, To high heaven.


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I gather the original idea was that Rwanda would be a detterent: pay people smuggers arrive in UK get sent to Rwanda. Clearly not going to happen, its dead in the water. However, if a democratically elected government choose to make a law, why should judges have the power to overturn the that law? Do the judges now rule this country? It stinks.

it does but a law is the law even for a government. its not as if the decision came as a shock and they should have attempted to alter the law through parliament first to avoid getting an eggy face again.


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The Rwanda president today has said his government will return any money they have received for taking refugees if none ever arrive in Rwanda ?


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Is it pro-rata though?

If only 1 gets sent to Rwanda does he keep the lot?


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The Rwanda president today has said his government will return any money they have received for taking refugees if none ever arrive in Rwanda ?

Who gives a crack.
Is there an election due?
Are all the old political posts gonna dig up out of the Crypt :roll:

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Perhaps they should send them to the Lake District to work in hospitality. Hospitality in the lakes is on its knees due to staff shortages, even the Gregg's in Windermere was closed yesterday as they didn't have enough staff. All cafes have noticed up begging for staff.

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Perhaps they should send them to the Lake District to work in hospitality. Hospitality in the lakes is on its knees due to staff shortages, even the Gregg's in Windermere was closed yesterday as they didn't have enough staff. All cafes have noticed up begging for staff.


Everything's got to be approved by Left Wing Lawyers nowadays..Did you see Starmer's lip curl when Rishi mentioned it today?


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Perhaps they should send them to the Lake District to work in hospitality. Hospitality in the lakes is on its knees due to staff shortages, even the Gregg's in Windermere was closed yesterday as they didn't have enough staff. All cafes have noticed up begging for staff.

I suspect most of the boat people already have ‘jobs’ lined up by their sponsors.

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Perhaps they should send them to the Lake District to work in hospitality. Hospitality in the lakes is on its knees due to staff shortages, even the Gregg's in Windermere was closed yesterday as they didn't have enough staff. All cafes have noticed up begging for staff.

I suspect most of the boat people already have ‘jobs’ lined up by their sponsors.

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Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
The Rwanda president today has said his government will return any money they have received for taking refugees if none ever arrive in Rwanda ?

Who gives a crack.
Is there an election due?
Are all the old political posts gonna dig up out of the Crypt :roll:


It’s your tax from your pension income which is helping to fund stuff like Rwanda Snowy, would you rather not see it spent elsewhere to actually to the benefit of U.K. citizens ?


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Perhaps they should send them to the Lake District to work in hospitality. Hospitality in the lakes is on its knees due to staff shortages, even the Gregg's in Windermere was closed yesterday as they didn't have enough staff. All cafes have noticed up begging for staff.


Everything's got to be approved by Left Wing Lawyers nowadays..Did you see Starmer's lip curl when Rishi mentioned it today?


Lawyers will very rarely turn work down so not all are lefty lawyers who defend the asylum seekers.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:
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Perhaps they should send them to the Lake District to work in hospitality. Hospitality in the lakes is on its knees due to staff shortages, even the Gregg's in Windermere was closed yesterday as they didn't have enough staff. All cafes have noticed up begging for staff.


Everything's got to be approved by Left Wing Lawyers nowadays..Did you see Starmer's lip curl when Rishi mentioned it today?


Lawyers will very rarely turn work down so not all are lefty lawyers who defend the asylum seekers.

they also do not need to believe in their cause if they get paid to defend them. they,ll defend child killers and mass murderers as its their job and get paid well for it. the legal system would fall on its arse if defendents could only get council if they were totally innocent. if there is a law around that they can use then they,ll use it. its hard finding a loophole whilst we are still part of the ECHR.


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Perhaps they should send them to the Lake District to work in hospitality. Hospitality in the lakes is on its knees due to staff shortages, even the Gregg's in Windermere was closed yesterday as they didn't have enough staff. All cafes have noticed up begging for staff.


Everything's got to be approved by Left Wing Lawyers nowadays..Did you see Starmer's lip curl when Rishi mentioned it today?


Lawyers will very rarely turn work down so not all are lefty lawyers who defend the asylum seekers.

they also do not need to believe in their cause if they get paid to defend them. they,ll defend child killers and mass murderers as its their job and get paid well for it. the legal system would fall on its arse if defendents could only get council if they were totally innocent. if there is a law around that they can use then they,ll use it. its hard finding a loophole whilst we are still part of the ECHR.

Not really, just ignore it with contempt like the French and Germans do, they, like most other countries put their interests first…it’s us, the Softy Walter’s who get their knickers in a twist and treat it oh so seriously.

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Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
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The Rwanda president today has said his government will return any money they have received for taking refugees if none ever arrive in Rwanda ?

Who gives a crack.
Is there an election due?
Are all the old political posts gonna dig up out of the Crypt :roll:


It’s your tax from your pension income which is helping to fund stuff like Rwanda Snowy, would you rather not see it spent elsewhere to actually to the benefit of U.K. citizens ?

If I’d had my way the first arrivals would have been held in secure accommodation and sent back, but oh no, the government treats them like film stars in smart hotels.
They should be put in basic accommodation, not allowed out and even then they’d still be better off than in tents in French sand dunes.
The money saved from leasing hotels will cover the cost of Rwanda with money to spare…. But Rwanda is pointless, just detain them till they return from whence they came…how many fans food deliverers or car washes does a country need….?

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As if to put 2 fingers up to Sunak, there 358 "illegals" in 8 boats that landed on our beaches, YESTERDAY!

What good timing?


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As if to put 2 fingers up to Sunak, there 358 "illegals" in 8 boats that landed on our beaches, YESTERDAY!

What good timing?


They are not bothered, it must be very long odds to be selected from the many thousands to be sent to Rwanda.
By all accounts currently no airline company will provide an aircraft due to the possible backlash from the public. That would mean using an RAF plane flying from one of their airfields meaning increased security and costs.
The Biddy Stockholm has gone quiet, have any been moved on to it and are they going to convert old army camps into a home for the Asylum Seekers


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As if to put 2 fingers up to Sunak, there 358 "illegals" in 8 boats that landed on our beaches, YESTERDAY!

What good timing?


They are not bothered, it must be very long odds to be selected from the many thousands to be sent to Rwanda.
By all accounts currently no airline company will provide an aircraft due to the possible backlash from the public. That would mean using an RAF plane flying from one of their airfields meaning increased security and costs.
The Biddy Stockholm has gone quiet, have any been moved on to it and are they going to convert old army camps into a home for the Asylum Seekers

Scape Flow would be an excellent location, bleak and windswept and the mocking gulls.

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They are not bothered, it must be very long odds to be selected from the many thousands to be sent to Rwanda.
By all accounts currently no airline company will provide an aircraft due to the possible backlash from the public. That would mean using an RAF plane flying from one of their airfields meaning increased security and costs.
The Biddy Stockholm has gone quiet, have any been moved on to it and are they going to convert old army camps into a home for the Asylum Seekers

more like the airline companies are frightened to move them because they might kick off about the poor quality catering on board. know for one that if a company did fly em out they,d be the one to get my business.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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As if to put 2 fingers up to Sunak, there 358 "illegals" in 8 boats that landed on our beaches, YESTERDAY!

What good timing?


They are not bothered, it must be very long odds to be selected from the many thousands to be sent to Rwanda.
By all accounts currently no airline company will provide an aircraft due to the possible backlash from the public. That would mean using an RAF plane flying from one of their airfields meaning increased security and costs.



Must be cheaper than having them sitting on their illegal backsides enjoying the view from their luxury hotels and bleeding the system for years to come.


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Sussex UK wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
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As if to put 2 fingers up to Sunak, there 358 "illegals" in 8 boats that landed on our beaches, YESTERDAY!

What good timing?


They are not bothered, it must be very long odds to be selected from the many thousands to be sent to Rwanda.
By all accounts currently no airline company will provide an aircraft due to the possible backlash from the public. That would mean using an RAF plane flying from one of their airfields meaning increased security and costs.
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Must be cheaper than having them sitting on their illegal backsides enjoying the view from their luxury hotels and bleeding the system for years to come.


The estimated cost is currently £400 million just to send less than 200 to Rwanda, I think the hotel option is cheaper and Rwanda is no deterrent. The way things are going no one will ever be sent to Rwanda before the election, Labour will scrap if they win then the Tories will say it’s Labours fault that the boats are still coming.


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Anutha 350 over the weekend in poor weather.
Get a warm Easter could be a 1000+.
Maybe some nice Easter eggs with chocolate money inside for them in the hotels.
What a joke of a government.
Hope they don't think 2 pence of income tax will keep them in power.
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Anutha 350 over the weekend in poor weather.
Get a warm Easter could be a 1000+.
Maybe some nice Easter eggs with chocolate money inside for them in the hotels.
What a joke of a government.
Hope they don't think 2 pence of income tax will keep them in power.
UTP

Y’now what, it ain’t gonna change under Labour either and totally forget the Lib Dims…..I can recall no period like the past 20 years when mainstream politicians were so out of touch with ordinary people.

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In the media at least 4 citizens of Rwanda have been granted asylum from a supposedly safe country.


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In the media at least 4 citizens of Rwanda have been granted asylum from a supposedly safe country.

Yeah, the Guardian brought it up….no surprise there. :roll:

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Shame we can’t ship them all out there and start up the Rwanda tribal war again.


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Y’now what, it ain’t gonna change under Labour either and totally forget the Lib Dims…..I can recall no period like the past 20 years when mainstream politicians were so out of touch with ordinary people.

and no subject like rwanda that those both on the left and right agree on even if the reasons are different that its a crap idea costing a fortune that more than likely will never see one person going.


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Y’now what, it ain’t gonna change under Labour either and totally forget the Lib Dims…..I can recall no period like the past 20 years when mainstream politicians were so out of touch with ordinary people.

and no subject like rwanda that those both on the left and right agree on even if the reasons are different that its a crap idea costing a fortune that more than likely will never see one person going.

Send em all to Rockall.

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Snowy wrote:
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In the media at least 4 citizens of Rwanda have been granted asylum from a supposedly safe country.

Yeah, the Guardian brought it up….no surprise there. :roll:


It’s sister paper Snowy The Observer, it’s true though irrespective of what paper it’s printed in, the right wing media are hardly going to advertise it.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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In the media at least 4 citizens of Rwanda have been granted asylum from a supposedly safe country.

Yeah, the Guardian brought it up….no surprise there. :roll:


It’s sister paper Snowy The Observer, it’s true though irrespective of what paper it’s printed in, the right wing media are hardly going to advertise it.


The Observer is the Guardian on a Sunday.
The same old crap in its Sunday best.
You really are obsessed with the ‘Right Wing’…I mentioned it to my Uncle Adolf when we were doing a service on his Panzer IV for it’s MOT before his touring holiday in Poland. :laugh:

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Snowy wrote:
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Snowy wrote:
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In the media at least 4 citizens of Rwanda have been granted asylum from a supposedly safe country.

Yeah, the Guardian brought it up….no surprise there. :roll:


It’s sister paper Snowy The Observer, it’s true though irrespective of what paper it’s printed in, the right wing media are hardly going to advertise it.


The Observer is the Guardian on a Sunday.
The same old crap in its Sunday best.
You really are obsessed with the ‘Right Wing’…I mentioned it to my Uncle Adolf when we were doing a service on his Panzer IV for it’s MOT before his touring holiday in Poland. :laugh:


The right wing has made a great job of running the country since 2010, I assume you be voting right wing again Snowy maybe even the far right, Reform U.K. ,Richard Tice is standing in the next G.E. in Hartlepool.

People have short memories or weren’t around in the days of the That her years where the Tories dismantled the Manufacturing and Engineering base but by bit until there was nothing left then left Labour to pick up what was left. That’s why Blair went on his education education thing, there were no jobs for the kids.


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Slightly off topic.
The IMF preaching stop the predicted tax cuts on March 6th spring budget.
Surely not anutha U turn with inflation due to sky rocket again in April.
Due to rises in
Council tax 5%
Broadband 8%
Phone 8%
And everything else in shops due to NMW increase.

Almost forgot gas bills going down in the summer.
How ironic.


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Slightly off topic.
The IMF preaching stop the predicted tax cuts on March 6th spring budget.
Surely not anutha U turn with inflation due to sky rocket again in April.
Due to rises in
Council tax 5%
Broadband 8%
Phone 8%
And everything else in shops due to NMW increase.

Almost forgot gas bills going down in the summer.
How ironic.


The Brits just lie down and take it up the a***, brexit will go down as the biggest mistake the electoral have ever made. Voted on because Farage stood on the White Cliffs of Dover saying it would stop Immigration which has actually increased, tariffs being imposed on U.K. goods going to Europe now, employing vets to check food, having to pay and apply for a visa to travel to Europe,,where did the £350 million a week we were going to save go, the list is endless, brexit was sold on a pack of lies.
Starmer hasn’t the bottle to say it as he knows he could lose votes by saying the U.K. might rejoin the EU in some shape or form.


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Don’t push the button twice. banghead


Pushed the buttons 3 times not twice in the supermarket when entering my PIN number yesterday, my card got blocked, must have been an iffy card reader as I entered the correct PIN number. I have now mastered the art of how to use the banking app on my phone so won’t be using the card reader again.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Slightly off topic.
The IMF preaching stop the predicted tax cuts on March 6th spring budget.
Surely not anutha U turn with inflation due to sky rocket again in April.
Due to rises in
Council tax 5%
Broadband 8%
Phone 8%
And everything else in shops due to NMW increase.

Almost forgot gas bills going down in the summer.
How ironic.


The Brits just lie down and take it up the a***, brexit will go down as the biggest mistake the electoral have ever made. Voted on because Farage stood on the White Cliffs of Dover saying it would stop Immigration which has actually increased, tariffs being imposed on U.K. goods going to Europe now, employing vets to check food, having to pay and apply for a visa to travel to Europe,,where did the £350 million a week we were going to save go, the list is endless, brexit was sold on a pack of lies.
Starmer hasn’t the bottle to say it as he knows he could lose votes by saying the U.K. might rejoin the EU in some shape or form.


Spot on. Not that any Brexiteers will admit it yet, even though it's undeniable thanks to these things called 'facts'


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The right wing has made a great job of running the country since 2010, I assume you be voting right wing again Snowy maybe even the far right, Reform U.K. ,Richard Tice is standing in the next G.E. in Hartlepool.

People have short memories or weren’t around in the days of the That her years where the Tories dismantled the Manufacturing and Engineering base but by bit until there was nothing left then left Labour to pick up what was left. That’s why Blair went on his education education thing, there were no jobs for the kids.

whats this right wing we have had since 2010. same as we have had no left wing since 1997. so many now from both party,s would sit well on the opposition benches nowadays. its all now in the mind of which party you vote for where you feel happier if either labour or tory are running the show and there will be little difference for us who will be running the show.


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The right wing has made a great job of running the country since 2010, I assume you be voting right wing again Snowy maybe even the far right, Reform U.K. ,Richard Tice is standing in the next G.E. in Hartlepool.

People have short memories or weren’t around in the days of the That her years where the Tories dismantled the Manufacturing and Engineering base but by bit until there was nothing left then left Labour to pick up what was left. That’s why Blair went on his education education thing, there were no jobs for the kids.

whats this right wing we have had since 2010. same as we have had no left wing since 1997. so many now from both party,s would sit well on the opposition benches nowadays. its all now in the mind of which party you vote for where you feel happier if either labour or tory are running the show and there will be little difference for us who will be running the show.

We’re heading towards an election so the Party members will be on here doing their bit for their cause….’INCOMING’ ….. yawn2

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The right wing has made a great job of running the country since 2010, I assume you be voting right wing again Snowy maybe even the far right, Reform U.K. ,Richard Tice is standing in the next G.E. in Hartlepool.

People have short memories or weren’t around in the days of the That her years where the Tories dismantled the Manufacturing and Engineering base but by bit until there was nothing left then left Labour to pick up what was left. That’s why Blair went on his education education thing, there were no jobs for the kids.

whats this right wing we have had since 2010. same as we have had no left wing since 1997. so many now from both party,s would sit well on the opposition benches nowadays. its all now in the mind of which party you vote for where you feel happier if either labour or tory are running the show and there will be little difference for us who will be running the show.

We’re heading towards an election so the Party members will be on here doing their bit for their cause….’INCOMING’ ….. yawn2


I think a bit of polite notice will tell anybody who is hell bent on using the bunker to drip feed political propaganda that all they will achieve is the creation of an election section rather than have the full forum to bore the arse of everybody. We get enough from actual politicians and the media without drowning the bunker with it as well. An election section will allow the protagonists to knock spots of each other to their heart's content. I would rather not have to do it so we'll see how it goes.

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derwent wrote:
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Jamie1952 wrote:
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The right wing has made a great job of running the country since 2010, I assume you be voting right wing again Snowy maybe even the far right, Reform U.K. ,Richard Tice is standing in the next G.E. in Hartlepool.

People have short memories or weren’t around in the days of the That her years where the Tories dismantled the Manufacturing and Engineering base but by bit until there was nothing left then left Labour to pick up what was left. That’s why Blair went on his education education thing, there were no jobs for the kids.

whats this right wing we have had since 2010. same as we have had no left wing since 1997. so many now from both party,s would sit well on the opposition benches nowadays. its all now in the mind of which party you vote for where you feel happier if either labour or tory are running the show and there will be little difference for us who will be running the show.

We’re heading towards an election so the Party members will be on here doing their bit for their cause….’INCOMING’ ….. yawn2


I think a bit of polite notice will tell anybody who is hell bent on using the bunker to drip feed political propaganda that all they will achieve is the creation of an election section rather than have the full forum to bore the arse of everybody. We get enough from actual politicians and the media without drowning the bunker with it as well. An election section will allow the protagonists to knock spots of each other to their heart's content. I would rather not have to do it so we'll see how it goes.


I think most of the posters on the Bunker won’t be influenced by what ever views other posters have, the biggest influencers are the media. If the media most of which are owned by Murdoch favour what ever party the electorate will vote for them. When the Blair government was elected The Sun was backing Labour so the electorate followed suit.

I am out of touch now, I don’t know if the younger electorate actually buy newspapers or listen to the news. All they appear to be interested in is having a big house, 2 cars and the latest phone.

I know my roots so I would always favour a party who looked after the working class, is there actually one. Most parties are centre left or right no extremes apart from Reform U.K..


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Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
Snowy wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
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The right wing has made a great job of running the country since 2010, I assume you be voting right wing again Snowy maybe even the far right, Reform U.K. ,Richard Tice is standing in the next G.E. in Hartlepool.

People have short memories or weren’t around in the days of the That her years where the Tories dismantled the Manufacturing and Engineering base but by bit until there was nothing left then left Labour to pick up what was left. That’s why Blair went on his education education thing, there were no jobs for the kids.

whats this right wing we have had since 2010. same as we have had no left wing since 1997. so many now from both party,s would sit well on the opposition benches nowadays. its all now in the mind of which party you vote for where you feel happier if either labour or tory are running the show and there will be little difference for us who will be running the show.

We’re heading towards an election so the Party members will be on here doing their bit for their cause….’INCOMING’ ….. yawn2


I think a bit of polite notice will tell anybody who is hell bent on using the bunker to drip feed political propaganda that all they will achieve is the creation of an election section rather than have the full forum to bore the arse of everybody. We get enough from actual politicians and the media without drowning the bunker with it as well. An election section will allow the protagonists to knock spots of each other to their heart's content. I would rather not have to do it so we'll see how it goes.


I think most of the posters on the Bunker won’t be influenced by what ever views other posters have, the biggest influencers are the media. If the media most of which are owned by Murdoch favour what ever party the electorate will vote for them. When the Blair government was elected The Sun was backing Labour so the electorate followed suit.

I am out of touch now, I don’t know if the younger electorate actually buy newspapers or listen to the news. All they appear to be interested in is having a big house, 2 cars and the latest phone.

I know my roots so I would always favour a party who looked after the working class, is there actually one. Most parties are centre left or right no extremes apart from Reform U.K..

Young people don’t buy newspapers, most can’t work them, the complicated process of turning the pages and their movement puts them off balance….so they look at their phones to tell them what to do.

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Shame we can’t ship them all out there and start up the Rwanda tribal war again.


I watched a good documentary on the subject recently & one of the main instigators of the genocide was tracked down & is living in Birmingham.
You couldn't make it up.


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PooliePete1908 wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Slightly off topic.
The IMF preaching stop the predicted tax cuts on March 6th spring budget.
Surely not anutha U turn with inflation due to sky rocket again in April.
Due to rises in
Council tax 5%
Broadband 8%
Phone 8%
And everything else in shops due to NMW increase.

Almost forgot gas bills going down in the summer.
How ironic.


The Brits just lie down and take it up the a***, brexit will go down as the biggest mistake the electoral have ever made. Voted on because Farage stood on the White Cliffs of Dover saying it would stop Immigration which has actually increased, tariffs being imposed on U.K. goods going to Europe now, employing vets to check food, having to pay and apply for a visa to travel to Europe,,where did the £350 million a week we were going to save go, the list is endless, brexit was sold on a pack of lies.
Starmer hasn’t the bottle to say it as he knows he could lose votes by saying the U.K. might rejoin the EU in some shape or form.


Spot on. Not that any Brexiteers will admit it yet, even though it's undeniable thanks to these things called 'facts'


And now the BBC website reporting water bills set to rise an average 6%.
Anglian Water who own Hartlepool Goin up the 2nd highest in England.

What happened to that statement from September where the Regulator reported Anglian water had to give substantial discounts in 2024 n 2025 to customers.
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Don't suppose our MP will sort it out. :angry-tappingfoot:


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