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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 1:29 pm 
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It has happened under raj, no one can deny that, but they have still held up well. You only need to read this thread to see fans predicting our crowds will fall off big time.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 1:32 pm 
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derwent wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Wheres this tier 9 and greyfields shit coming from.
Never had the bigA bfor so will be Northern Premier n still the Vic.
Down with this Negativity.
We Pools United we never be defeated.


Its scaremongering to justify raj and his great ownership. Hartlepool has one half decent thing going for it. The football club and its fans. Does anyone honestly think no matter what happens, hartlepool council would rather have us on greyfields than victoria park?

Tell you what a few people on here would have a heart attack if we got took over by decent owners and saw the potential this club has. When we struggled at the bottom of the football leagur the same people insisted crwods would be dreadful in the conference. Newsflash they arent? The same people now say if we go any lower the crowds will be dreadful? Newsflash they wont. We will pull in double to darlo in the same league at the vic.


I have never read on here that Raj's ownership has been described as great.
Who on earth would not welcome better owners and why would better owners bring on heart attacks. More like if we had better owners the heart attacks would occur amongst the crew who would have less to whinge about.
I also can't recall the people who said our crowds would be dreadful if we found ourselves in the Conference. Crowd reduction happens due to a variety of reasons, weather, bad results, bad league position, Saturday before Xmas, holidays, no cash etc and the odd Covid.
I do recall you mentioning crowd reduction in your many rants about Raj though. So even you recognise it can happen.

My take on crowds is generally they turn up when their team is winning and can't be bothered when they're not. There are sometimes exceptions which is why I say generally. You will have noticed that I don't get involved much in predictions of crowds, results etc. If I was any good at it I would make a living at the expense of the bookies.


The whingeing crew are the ones that want better and feel that a club this size can deliver better. Its not us wanting to plod along from one embarassment to another.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 1:46 pm 
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
derwent wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Wheres this tier 9 and greyfields shit coming from.
Never had the bigA bfor so will be Northern Premier n still the Vic.
Down with this Negativity.
We Pools United we never be defeated.


Its scaremongering to justify raj and his great ownership. Hartlepool has one half decent thing going for it. The football club and its fans. Does anyone honestly think no matter what happens, hartlepool council would rather have us on greyfields than victoria park?

Tell you what a few people on here would have a heart attack if we got took over by decent owners and saw the potential this club has. When we struggled at the bottom of the football leagur the same people insisted crwods would be dreadful in the conference. Newsflash they arent? The same people now say if we go any lower the crowds will be dreadful? Newsflash they wont. We will pull in double to darlo in the same league at the vic.


I have never read on here that Raj's ownership has been described as great.
Who on earth would not welcome better owners and why would better owners bring on heart attacks. More like if we had better owners the heart attacks would occur amongst the crew who would have less to whinge about.
I also can't recall the people who said our crowds would be dreadful if we found ourselves in the Conference. Crowd reduction happens due to a variety of reasons, weather, bad results, bad league position, Saturday before Xmas, holidays, no cash etc and the odd Covid.
I do recall you mentioning crowd reduction in your many rants about Raj though. So even you recognise it can happen.

My take on crowds is generally they turn up when their team is winning and can't be bothered when they're not. There are sometimes exceptions which is why I say generally. You will have noticed that I don't get involved much in predictions of crowds, results etc. If I was any good at it I would make a living at the expense of the bookies.


The whingeing crew are the ones that want better and feel that a club this size can deliver better. Its not us wanting to plod along from one embarassment to another.


Spot on.


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 Post subject: Re: Club Update
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 1:55 pm 
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
derwent wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Wheres this tier 9 and greyfields shit coming from.
Never had the bigA bfor so will be Northern Premier n still the Vic.
Down with this Negativity.
We Pools United we never be defeated.


Its scaremongering to justify raj and his great ownership. Hartlepool has one half decent thing going for it. The football club and its fans. Does anyone honestly think no matter what happens, hartlepool council would rather have us on greyfields than victoria park?

Tell you what a few people on here would have a heart attack if we got took over by decent owners and saw the potential this club has. When we struggled at the bottom of the football leagur the same people insisted crwods would be dreadful in the conference. Newsflash they arent? The same people now say if we go any lower the crowds will be dreadful? Newsflash they wont. We will pull in double to darlo in the same league at the vic.


I have never read on here that Raj's ownership has been described as great.
Who on earth would not welcome better owners and why would better owners bring on heart attacks. More like if we had better owners the heart attacks would occur amongst the crew who would have less to whinge about.
I also can't recall the people who said our crowds would be dreadful if we found ourselves in the Conference. Crowd reduction happens due to a variety of reasons, weather, bad results, bad league position, Saturday before Xmas, holidays, no cash etc and the odd Covid.
I do recall you mentioning crowd reduction in your many rants about Raj though. So even you recognise it can happen.

My take on crowds is generally they turn up when their team is winning and can't be bothered when they're not. There are sometimes exceptions which is why I say generally. You will have noticed that I don't get involved much in predictions of crowds, results etc. If I was any good at it I would make a living at the expense of the bookies.


The whingeing crew are the ones that want better and feel that a club this size can deliver better. Its not us wanting to plod along from one embarassment to another.


We all want better but Is it any better by whingeing ad nauseam. There isn't a Poolie on this planet who wants it worse but there are those, who by their intransigence, could make it worse. If your front door was in need of replacement would you even contemplate removing it before you had something in place to replace it. That's all I keep saying, until we have a willing replacement, he is all we've got.
There is no other scenario apart from him suddenly deciding to change tack. All the whingeing in the World hasn't altered anything one little bit, certainly not for the better.

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 Post subject: Re: Club Update
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:20 pm 
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I thought it was us whingers who have forced raj out? Nothing to do with the facts were plummeting with a poor team and out of the cup. Lets hope this time next season were in a better situation.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:37 pm 
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
I thought it was us whingers who have forced raj out? Nothing to do with the facts were plummeting with a poor team and out of the cup. Lets hope this time next season were in a better situation.


I don't think anyone would accuse you of forcing him to stay, put it that way. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Club Update
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:47 pm 
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Was there any point in Raj stepping in?
For me, the fact he held onto a football share in a fellow club, causing them to become a phoenix club WITH a chunk of debt, is ludicrous the FA let the guy anywhere near another football club. But that's more to do with the failings of the fit a proper person's test.

We were in serious trouble, facing administration and possibly worse

Raj, the wannabe saviour stepped in, supposedly to save the day. Correct me if I'm wrong but 5 years on, we are more in debt than before, and facing a similar predicament. Administration could see the end. It could also release us from huge debts it if the administrators accept 10% if it comes to it.

We're in the same league as when he took over, we are still in trouble, so what did we get out of it?

And he wonders why some of us are not worshipping him.


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 Post subject: Re: Club Update
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:07 pm 
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You could say the same about most of our previous owners with regard to being in the same league as when they arrived, and certainly many have left us worse off financially.
I'm not sure how you can say we're in more debt than when he arrived? And none of us know how much he's put in or taken out over the years.
He came in when nobody else was willing to, so he's been a stop gap which he pretty much said from day 1. So he is due our thanks for that imo. As for worshipping him, I don't think anyone on here worships him, whereas there's plenty obviously despise him for everything he's done or does.
He's given his side of the story regarding Darlo and he had a verbal agreement that he'd give up his share in the club for part of the Dan Burn transfer deal income, the club didn't actually give him what he wanted so he kept his share. Nothing wrong with that, if you agreed to sell your house but yhe buyer didn't then give you the agreed price would you hand over the deeds.
The blokes said on numerous occasions he would t stand in the way of anyone with sufficient funds and a desire to take the club forward and that's fair enough. Let's hope he finds that someone. The only problem is of course that the new owners will get the same pelters if we don't start storming whi he er league were in.


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 Post subject: Re: Club Update
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:00 pm 
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You could say the same about most of our previous owners with regard to being in the same league as when they arrived, and certainly many have left us worse off financially.
I'm not sure how you can say we're in more debt than when he arrived? And none of us know how much he's put in or taken out over the years.
He came in when nobody else was willing to, so he's been a stop gap which he pretty much said from day 1. So he is due our thanks for that imo. As for worshipping him, I don't think anyone on here worships him, whereas there's plenty obviously despise him for everything he's done or does.
He's given his side of the story regarding Darlo and he had a verbal agreement that he'd give up his share in the club for part of the Dan Burn transfer deal income, the club didn't actually give him what he wanted so he kept his share. Nothing wrong with that, if you agreed to sell your house but yhe buyer didn't then give you the agreed price would you hand over the deeds.
The blokes said on numerous occasions he would t stand in the way of anyone with sufficient funds and a desire to take the club forward and that's fair enough. Let's hope he finds that someone. The only problem is of course that the new owners will get the same pelters if we don't start storming whi he er league were in.


Singh changes his story every time he mentions us. I wouldn’t trust what he says, end of.


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 Post subject: Re: Club Update
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:14 pm 
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KeithNobbsBigToe wrote:
Was there any point in Raj stepping in?
For me, the fact he held onto a football share in a fellow club, causing them to become a phoenix club WITH a chunk of debt, is ludicrous the FA let the guy anywhere near another football club. But that's more to do with the failings of the fit a proper person's test.

We were in serious trouble, facing administration and possibly worse

Raj, the wannabe saviour stepped in, supposedly to save the day. Correct me if I'm wrong but 5 years on, we are more in debt than before, and facing a similar predicament. Administration could see the end. It could also release us from huge debts it if the administrators accept 10% if it comes to it.

We're in the same league as when he took over, we are still in trouble, so what did we get out of it?

And he wonders why some of us are not worshipping him.


So if we went pop 5 years ago we would most probably be in a higher division now to next season.

The PROBABLY will upset his worshippers in the morning maybe 1 tonight. :lol:
Looking like 4th or 5th bottom will mean starting next season in evo stik premier or east division.
Marvelous. :angry-tappingfoot:


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 Post subject: Re: Club Update
PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:15 pm 
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loan_star wrote:
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You could say the same about most of our previous owners with regard to being in the same league as when they arrived, and certainly many have left us worse off financially.
I'm not sure how you can say we're in more debt than when he arrived? And none of us know how much he's put in or taken out over the years.
He came in when nobody else was willing to, so he's been a stop gap which he pretty much said from day 1. So he is due our thanks for that imo. As for worshipping him, I don't think anyone on here worships him, whereas there's plenty obviously despise him for everything he's done or does.
He's given his side of the story regarding Darlo and he had a verbal agreement that he'd give up his share in the club for part of the Dan Burn transfer deal income, the club didn't actually give him what he wanted so he kept his share. Nothing wrong with that, if you agreed to sell your house but yhe buyer didn't then give you the agreed price would you hand over the deeds.
The blokes said on numerous occasions he would t stand in the way of anyone with sufficient funds and a desire to take the club forward and that's fair enough. Let's hope he finds that someone. The only problem is of course that the new owners will get the same pelters if we don't start storming whi he er league were in.


Singh changes his story every time he mentions us. I wouldn’t trust what he says, end of.


I don't.


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 Post subject: Re: Club Update
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So do you think the players are playing poorly because they think the club might fold at the end of the season


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 Post subject: Re: Club Update
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So do you think the players are playing poorly because they think the club might fold at the end of the season


Certainly could be a contributing factor not knowing what your future is next year when your contract expires or have another year on your contract.


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So do you think the players are playing poorly because they think the club might fold at the end of the season

That then is a vicious circle because they’re the only ones who can get us out of this mess, it’s in their hands or feet.

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Meanwhile the ‘ Brotherhood for the Self Inflicted Banzai Charge’ of making things better by making them much worse, continue to promote their concept to the gullible….find another club where some supporters are aroused at the prospect of solving one problem with a much larger problem….if you can.
You won’t find one.

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Jamie1952 wrote:
harrogatepoolie wrote:
So do you think the players are playing poorly because they think the club might fold at the end of the season


Certainly could be a contributing factor not knowing what your future is next year when your contract expires or have another year on your contract.


Probably and theres the rumor after the 4 1 win after Grimsby at Easter that wages wernt payed on time.
Just maybe downed tools by a few in a team game can have a major effect on results.
I suppose theres more questions than answers lately.
But we carry on regardless.
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There was a ‘rumour’ of the players not getting ‘payed’ on time……..always the fall back when there’s no proof.

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Sums up everything that's wrong about social media. You can post any old made-up shite and if it gets repeated enough times credulous types will believe it - because it suits them to.


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PTID wrote:
It's all about what happens on the pitch really now, we'll be far more attractive to investors and buyers if we're in or around the playoffs.

lower our debt is can be a bigger issue than our present league position. in recent years apart from the odd few like wrexham who actual have potential its all about throwing money at clubs who will never get big gates at any level they,ll play at. pools are not like these clubs then it might be a different type of investor we get. lower the debt pools have the better chance of someone coming in whose first job would be paying a big chunk if not all of this off before they start.


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Sums up everything that's wrong about social media. You can post any old made-up shite and if it gets repeated enough times credulous types will believe it - because it suits them to.


SM is evil.
Not bust football either.
Woman broadcaster pundit saying its a major player in the worlds bad times.
No mental health reasons for bad behavior in the 90s. Riots n Protests organized pronto.
On line petition shit.
Trolls n grooming shit.
The world was a much nicer place before this internet shit.
And working from home. What a load o shite.
England not for the English anymore.

Its shit.









Fully expect the dont use it shit.
Fcuk off bbolt :lol: :lol:


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like many things the internet was a great discovery but in the end has altered most peoples lives for the worse. not having something that once was an extra to our lives has more or less become a necessity. it becomes harder by the day living without the last thing i require, a smart phone or tracking device whichever you want to call it.


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accrington fan wrote:
like many things the internet was a great discovery but in the end has altered most peoples lives for the worse. not having something that once was an extra to our lives has more or less become a necessity. it becomes harder by the day living without the last thing i require, a smart phone or tracking device whichever you want to call it.

I spent most of my working life with everything from a pager, radio and bloody mobile and now my phone sits on the table…not in my pocket.

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Snowy wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
like many things the internet was a great discovery but in the end has altered most peoples lives for the worse. not having something that once was an extra to our lives has more or less become a necessity. it becomes harder by the day living without the last thing i require, a smart phone or tracking device whichever you want to call it.

I spent most of my working life with everything from a pager, radio and bloody mobile and now my phone sits on the table…not in my pocket.

showing your age. it should be glued to your hand even in bed asleep.


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Mobile phones should be for calls and messaging only, if you want to use the internet wait till you get home.


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accrington fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
like many things the internet was a great discovery but in the end has altered most peoples lives for the worse. not having something that once was an extra to our lives has more or less become a necessity. it becomes harder by the day living without the last thing i require, a smart phone or tracking device whichever you want to call it.

I spent most of my working life with everything from a pager, radio and bloody mobile and now my phone sits on the table…not in my pocket.

showing your age. it should be glued to your hand even in bed asleep.

I’m surprised especially by younger women who clutch them permanently walking down the street…I suspect 95% of all traffic on them is gossip.
The only thing they’re good for is in the car and the camera.

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Jamie1952 wrote:
Mobile phones should be for calls and messaging only, if you want to use the internet wait till you get home.

again you like snowy are showing your age. what i,ll never understand and no one will get me to understand is people calling others friends who follow them on social media when they have never met them face to face or even know them. then they believe any old thing on twitter but claim in the same voice the newspapers are always wrong and give a false representation of the facts.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Mobile phones should be for calls and messaging only, if you want to use the internet wait till you get home.


Ok boomer


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Mobile phones should be for calls and messaging only, if you want to use the internet wait till you get home.

again you like snowy are showing your age..

Thank God for that. :laugh:

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I had one of those mobile phones fitted in the company car about the late 80's and I only used it for emergency calls, if needed. So I've been used to them for over 30 years.

The one I've got know is a "old type" Nokia that costs me £5 per month. I phone my sister every saturday and I might do 1/2 text messages per month. Basically its only used when out driving in case of a breakdown etc.

Just think what we used to do before they became a general nuisance?


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Critical Thinking wrote:
I had one of those mobile phones fitted in the company car about the late 80's and I only used it for emergency calls, if needed. So I've been used to them for over 30 years.

The one I've got know is a "old type" Nokia that costs me £5 per month. I phone my sister every saturday and I might do 1/2 text messages per month. Basically its only used when out driving in case of a breakdown etc.

Just think what we used to do before they became a general nuisance?


No goood ecpecting any1 to writte a lettr theses days, The y cantt spelt.


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Critical Thinking wrote:
I had one of those mobile phones fitted in the company car about the late 80's and I only used it for emergency calls, if needed. So I've been used to them for over 30 years.

The one I've got know is a "old type" Nokia that costs me £5 per month. I phone my sister every saturday and I might do 1/2 text messages per month. Basically its only used when out driving in case of a breakdown etc.

Just think what we used to do before they became a general nuisance?


What does half a text message look like? LO? OL? sctatchinghead


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