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 Post subject: Aldershot or Get shot
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It's got to that point for me, and it's not just the management I'm on about here it's the players, still fuming about that inept bag of shite performance, pea hearted bunch of wasters banghead

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
It's got to that point for me, and it's not just the management I'm on about here it's the players, still fuming about that inept bag of shite performance, pea hearted bunch of wasters banghead


Get shot of the players, we play the youth side then ?


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If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.


And who are you going to replace them with ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.


And who are you going to replace them with ?


Looks like you are going to have to find yer boots Jamie. :laugh:

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derwent wrote:
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.


And who are you going to replace them with ?


Looks like you are going to have to find yer boots Jamie. :laugh:


Fans make these rash statements but never provide a solution Derwent.


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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.


And who are you going to replace them with ?


Cardboard cut out players as they'd probably be more use.

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Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.


And who are you going to replace them with ?


Looks like you are going to have to find yer boots Jamie. :laugh:


Fans make these rash statements but never provide a solution Derwent.

It's not my job to provide a solution, we supposedly have people employed at the club whose job is to do that....

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 Post subject: Re: Aldershot or Get shot
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Sometimes you are left with no alternative but to make an example.

You will find quickly that others will fall into line.
The first thing i would do, Would be to strip Fergi of the armband.

And who would i give it to, Well thats upto the manager to sort out.

You CANNOT let things slide, If you do then you are showing weakness.
And knowing players, They will take full advantage.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.


And who are you going to replace them with ?


Looks like you are going to have to find yer boots Jamie. :laugh:


Fans make these rash statements but never provide a solution Derwent.


Can't argue with that, Jamie.

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.


And who are you going to replace them with ?


Looks like you are going to have to find yer boots Jamie. :laugh:


Fans make these rash statements but never provide a solution Derwent.

It's not my job to provide a solution, we supposedly have people employed at the club whose job is to do that....


I suppose getting shot of 8/10 players is offering a solution but then that causes other problems that need solving as well.

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.

Trouble is the same team played well the week before. So what’s their problem…?
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Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.


And who are you going to replace them with ?


Looks like you are going to have to find yer boots Jamie. :laugh:


Fans make these rash statements but never provide a solution Derwent.


Some of them are rash, some are pretty reasonable expectations which are not being met. I've said before, one season might not be enough to get over last seasons farce. Rash to think we can just scatter an entire squad, contracts and all. Can't blame Askey for that. The buffoonery was from different people before he was even hired.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
Sometimes you are left with no alternative but to make an example.

You will find quickly that others will fall into line.
The first thing i would do, Would be to strip Fergi of the armband.

And who would i give it to, Well thats upto the manager to sort out.

You CANNOT let things slide, If you do then you are showing weakness.
And knowing players, They will take full advantage.


Just to play devil's advocate here. Do we think the players enjoy being beaten at home and getting booed off? I think it is unlikely, so that takes us to the conclusion that they are simply not good enough to win games consistently. We dont have enough(any?) players with that little bit extra that can turn a game in our favour which then gets the more average players to up their performance. I gather we started brightly against Chester but once their goal went in, things started to deteriorate maybe players making safe passes that were never going to trouble Chester. Players scared to take risks. I dont claim to know the answers but just thought I would give my two pen'north.


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Graham Alexander been sacked by MK Dons after a pretty poor start. Only been Manager for about 16 games since May!

But he did stay the team, of not young kids but mature professionals, just don't listen to pre-match instructions and then turn to the bench if there is a free kick, throw in or corner to ask what they should be doing. Sounds familiar doesn't it?


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
Sometimes you are left with no alternative but to make an example.

You will find quickly that others will fall into line.
The first thing i would do, Would be to strip Fergi of the armband.

And who would i give it to, Well thats upto the manager to sort out.

You CANNOT let things slide, If you do then you are showing weakness.
And knowing players, They will take full advantage.


Just to play devil's advocate here. Do we think the players enjoy being beaten at home and getting booed off? I think it is unlikely, so that takes us to the conclusion that they are simply not good enough to win games consistently. We dont have enough(any?) players with that little bit extra that can turn a game in our favour which then gets the more average players to up their performance. I gather we started brightly against Chester but once their goal went in, things started to deteriorate maybe players making safe passes that were never going to trouble Chester. Players scared to take risks. I dont claim to know the answers but just thought I would give my two pen'north.


Not devils advocate at all, None of us have the answers nor should we.
We are not on the inside to get our thoughts through.

It was painfully clear on saturday after 10min or so that Chester,s plan was counter attack.
Sitting deep with banks of 4, We did not need 3 CBs.

Askey himself said in his interview, The players could have tried something differant like
Playing high balls into the box, And then trying to win the second ball.

Our play was obvious and laboured, The set pieces(corners) were so predictive a child could
Have told you what was next.
The Keeper dropped the ball twice whilst trying to collect it, None of ours near for a chance.


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Graham Alexander been sacked by MK Dons after a pretty poor start. Only been Manager for about 16 games since May!

But he did stay the team, of not young kids but mature professionals, just don't listen to pre-match instructions and then turn to the bench if there is a free kick, throw in or corner to ask what they should be doing. Sounds familiar doesn't it?



Thats why you need someone whos going to go toe to toe with them.
Unless of course they start crying.

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There was a time when a Pools defeat would ruin my weekend. These days I sometimes don't find out the result until after the weekend.
You get punched in the face enough times and it starts to hurt. I have to say that I'm rapidly losing interest.


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
There was a time when a Pools defeat would ruin my weekend. These days I sometimes don't find out the result until after the weekend.
You get punched in the face enough times and it starts to hurt. I have to say that I'm rapidly losing interest.


We are being Desensitized regarding pools..


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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
It's got to that point for me, and it's not just the management I'm on about here it's the players, still fuming about that inept bag of shite performance, pea hearted bunch of wasters banghead



10 managers since Raj took over in 2018

That's roughly a new guy in charge every 6 months

A few have made comments telling you where the issues lie

It's not the managers or players


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KeithNobbsBigToe wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
It's got to that point for me, and it's not just the management I'm on about here it's the players, still fuming about that inept bag of shite performance, pea hearted bunch of wasters banghead



10 managers since Raj took over in 2018

That's roughly a new guy in charge every 6 months

A few have made comments telling you where the issues lie

It's not the managers or players


Truth.


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KeithNobbsBigToe wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
It's got to that point for me, and it's not just the management I'm on about here it's the players, still fuming about that inept bag of shite performance, pea hearted bunch of wasters banghead



10 managers since Raj took over in 2018

That's roughly a new guy in charge every 6 months

A few have made comments telling you where the issues lie

It's not the managers or players


So why did the players turn in that performance on saturday.
Have they not been paid, Because people turned up to and paid.


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10 managers but except for DC who didn’t deserve the sack?


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10 managers but except for DC who didn’t deserve the sack?

If you hire a shit plumber there’s no shame in sacking him, you’re paying him to do the job…if you want a perfect plumber you get another plumber to advise you,….. trouble is, the plumber who advises you may also be a shit plumber.
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Snowy wrote:
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10 managers but except for DC who didn’t deserve the sack?

If you hire a shit plumber there’s no shame in sacking him, you’re paying him to do the job…if you want a perfect plumber you get another plumber to advise you,….. trouble is, the plumber who advises you may also be a shit plumber.
Therefore hiring a plumber is a gamble.


Hiring a plumber but making them use a tool kit bought off Temu.


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Pooly_Imp wrote:
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10 managers but except for DC who didn’t deserve the sack?

If you hire a shit plumber there’s no shame in sacking him, you’re paying him to do the job…if you want a perfect plumber you get another plumber to advise you,….. trouble is, the plumber who advises you may also be a shit plumber.
Therefore hiring a plumber is a gamble.[/quote
Hiring a plumber but making them use a tool kit bought off Temu.

No decent plumber would be told what tools to use …fact.

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Pooly_Imp wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Johnjo1 wrote:
10 managers but except for DC who didn’t deserve the sack?

If you hire a shit plumber there’s no shame in sacking him, you’re paying him to do the job…if you want a perfect plumber you get another plumber to advise you,….. trouble is, the plumber who advises you may also be a shit plumber.
Therefore hiring a plumber is a gamble.


Hiring a plumber but making them use a tool kit bought off Temu.



Just about to post similar

Imagine hiring a plumber then asking him to fit something for the lowest price

He advises against it - warning you'll be wasting your time

You insist on the cheapest, then when the situation fails you sack the plumber

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Snowy wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.

Trouble is the same team played well the week before. So what’s their problem…?
Only they can answer that question.


Maybe Eastleigh had an off day to make us look good.
It happens now n again.
Whatever the reasons we on a 10 games win ratio of relegation form.


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Rip it up and start again!
Who sang that 80s song?
Next season we start with this stability manager and all the players are his own.
Surely thats a recipe to win the league.
Roll on 24/25
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.

Trouble is the same team played well the week before. So what’s their problem…?
Only they can answer that question.


Maybe Eastleigh had an off day to make us look good.
It happens now n again.
Whatever the reasons we on a 10 games win ratio of relegation form.

tha last sentence is far more important than the eastleigh or chester results. 4 points is the real minimum for me out of the next 3 games to keep my interest up to be prepared to watch spineless crap.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Rip it up and start again!
Who sang that 80s song?
Next season we start with this stability manager and all the players are his own.
Surely thats a recipe to win the league.
Roll on 24/25
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
There was a time when a Pools defeat would ruin my weekend. These days I sometimes don't find out the result until after the weekend.
You get punched in the face enough times and it starts to hurt. I have to say that I'm rapidly losing interest.

just treat a pools win as a bonus as we,d have few decent weekends to enjoy otherwise.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Just to play devil's advocate here. Do we think the players enjoy being beaten at home and getting booed off? I think it is unlikely, so that takes us to the conclusion that they are simply not good enough to win games consistently. We dont have enough(any?) players with that little bit extra that can turn a game in our favour which then gets the more average players to up their performance. I gather we started brightly against Chester but once their goal went in, things started to deteriorate maybe players making safe passes that were never going to trouble Chester. Players scared to take risks. I dont claim to know the answers but just thought I would give my two pen'north.



Pools regularly struggled against sides that came to the Vic and put 10 men behind the ball the last time we were in the NL. Lost count of the number of times crap sides like Dover nicked a goal on the break and took the 3 points. Not surprised Chester were able to do the same on Saturday, the current Pools side is really vulnerable to a quick counter-attack.

Not too bothered about the result - even a good cup run makes no difference to where Pools finish up in the league - as Spike Lee discovered to his cost a couple of seasons ago.

Still, unlike the beginning of the season when Pools were able to bounce straight back from conceding a goal, a lot of heads are quick to drop these days. Askey mentioned it post-match - wonder if it's because too many players think they can't be dropped? It's time he backed his words with deeds and benched a few. Plus, give someone else the captaincy - Fergie is nobody's idea of an inspirational leader on the pitch.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.

Trouble is the same team played well the week before. So what’s their problem…?
Only they can answer that question.


Maybe Eastleigh had an off day to make us look good.
It happens now n again.
Whatever the reasons we on a 10 games win ratio of relegation form.

Have you been marking it off in anticipation…even the good times are bad in your world…Get Top Cat to check out who sang that…best get Officer Dibble too.

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Spot on.

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Snowy wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.

Trouble is the same team played well the week before. So what’s their problem…?
Only they can answer that question.


Maybe Eastleigh had an off day to make us look good.
It happens now n again.
Whatever the reasons we on a 10 games win ratio of relegation form.

Have you been marking it off in anticipation…even the good times are bad in your world…Get Top Cat to check out who sang that…best get Officer Dibble too.


Simmer down Unc.
Have a few whiskeys n Viagra and release that pent up frustration instead coming on this place talking jibberish.
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
If you could there's about 8/10 of the current squad I'd get shot of overnight.

Trouble is the same team played well the week before. So what’s their problem…?
Only they can answer that question.


Maybe Eastleigh had an off day to make us look good.
It happens now n again.
Whatever the reasons we on a 10 games win ratio of relegation form.

Have you been marking it off in anticipation…even the good times are bad in your world…Get Top Cat to check out who sang that…best get Officer Dibble too.


Simmer down Unc.
Have a few whiskeys n Viagra and release that pent up frustration instead coming on this place talking jibberish.
therethere :o


Now let me see, sctatchinghead haven’t drank for years, last drink, May 2014 Officer’s Mess HMS Dryad Portsmouth ….. as for Viagra, you apparently seem to know about the side effects, so I’ll bow to your experience of dependency in the use of the sexual crutch. So keep a stiff upper lip and other bits too. :laugh:

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just thinking about saturdays game. just wonder if the team puts a shift in and win will there be as much positivity about this as the well deserved knocking the team has got since saturday. somehow i will not be holding my breath.


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Long way to Hampshire, isnt it? Thought I'd get my excuses predicted in advance.


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just thinking about saturdays game. just wonder if the team puts a shift in and win will there be as much positivity about this as the well deserved knocking the team has got since saturday. somehow i will not be holding my breath.

Statistically no….slow to praise, quick to denigrate seems the mathematical answer.
If you want your team to win surely you’d be happy for at least that day…. sctatchinghead

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Snowy wrote:
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just thinking about saturdays game. just wonder if the team puts a shift in and win will there be as much positivity about this as the well deserved knocking the team has got since saturday. somehow i will not be holding my breath.

Statistically no….slow to praise, quick to denigrate seems the mathematical answer.
If you want your team to win surely you’d be happy for at least that day…. sctatchinghead


Personally I'll be happy if we win. Always happy when we win, ever since I first entered the Vic in 1952. Can't see me changing that.

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accrington fan wrote:
just thinking about saturdays game. just wonder if the team puts a shift in and win will there be as much positivity about this as the well deserved knocking the team has got since saturday. somehow i will not be holding my breath.

Statistically no….slow to praise, quick to denigrate seems the mathematical answer.
If you want your team to win surely you’d be happy for at least that day…. sctatchinghead


Personally I'll be happy if we win. Always happy when we win, ever since I first entered the Vic in 1952. Can't see me changing that.


Agree 100%.


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 Post subject: Re: Aldershot or Get shot
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if only everyone thought that way it would be fine. just get a feeling now some will be writing out notes to post if anything negative comes up. pools winning is far better than a lot of sex i have had in my life for sure. and certainly lasts longer.


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