The Welsh ‘Government’ (glorified County Council) will from this Sunday reduce speeds in Wales to 20 mph…..in residential and built up areas or where street lamps are less than 200 yards apart.
They haven’t quite worked out that if you drop the speed, the journey takes longer, so the car engine is running 50% longer Doh! pumping out the fumes they all seem to be freaking out over
Also the bus companies are a bit annoyed as it’s going to bugger up all their timetables meaning longer journey times and as a consequence reduced services.
Every action has a reaction isn’t a saying in their inventory.

900 people were killed in wales in 2022 in all road accidents. a drop of 15 per cent compared with 2019. ok one is too many but at least its a stat that is going down. i,d guess those killed by knives and other things have gone up like those unaccounted for deaths nobody seems interested in since covid. at peak hours in any town and city you will be lucky to even reach 20 mph. the main thing is the peak hours are only a short part of the 24 hours vehicles are on the road. just imagine driving anywhere at 1am anywhere at a speed like that when you are the only person on the road as speed cameras are bound to follow as many will just ignore them and quite rightly so. just another of the measures thought up to piss you off driving a car to comply with the agendas of those who think they know whats better for everyone else. like ULEZ its the labour politician again who brought this about so beware which box you cross when you vote next. cars today and what you eat tomorrow.

Just wondering who worked out the Maths for the street lamps.

Anyway i,m with Trump, Build the wall. lol

Not wanting to cause upset to our welsh readers.

Heres why just trying to help us all and the NHS
Training us to do without cars, Thin end of the wedge.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDdKmq0MirI&t=4s

Just watched the video. They should go the whole hog and have a bloke walking in front of the car waving a red flag!!

It’s hard to find the number of fatalities, but it can be done and it’s 88 for 2022.

Don’t give the loons ideas.

why cannot they find something else that does not just consists of kids going to school for their propaganda. oh forgot they show playgrounds. you know those empty places if parents do not take the little uns there. when they ban cars from certain streets there will be no more playing out than in those where they have to dodge the traffic. they,d rather play an on line version of hopscotch than playing it outside.

So if 20 mph is sooooo good, why not reduce it to 10 mph as logically in their Magic Roundabout thought process it would be even better still

you are right. i got my maths wrong when i worked it out. does not tell you what those fatalities were and the types of roads they happened on. since when did facts stop agendas as they,ll get one out of the air for it. like khans plucking out his 4,000 deaths caused by air quality or give a grant to someone just to lie.

well it would be a good use for labour now to find an excuse to wave a red flag instead of a white one they use now on many subjects.

They only went and lumped the fatalities in with the serious injuries but on the proper official site it’s broken down into percentages for each category and a quick bit of maths gave the answer of 88.

Especially after his trip over to Europe yesterday and saying we should take a quota of Europes refugee problem to help out…the accepted figure is 100, 000.

well drakeford has made sure none of em will be boy racers.

We’ll I was doing 30 yesterday in West View Road and an E scooter sailed past me with the usual teenage 35 year old piloting it so they can all use them when they arrive.

They only went and lumped the fatalities in with the serious injuries but on the proper official site it’s broken down into percentages for each category and a quick bit of maths gave the answer of 88.

How sad it might be, but I would imagine some of those fatalities would be from things like heart attacks whilst driving and other medical emergencies and not caused by car/bike accidents.

Think this post needs to be removed, Giving them ideas like that,lol

If the shops start stocking red flags be very afraid

actually on friday afternoon i had to pick some dog food up which included a 3 mile plus journey down a road that would be designated as a 20 mph zone. it was fairly quiet with a one mile downhill stretch. it was impossible to drive in any gear higher than 3rd downhill when i practised the 20 mph thing and 4th on the straight. even then without looking at the speedo all the time i got up to 25 without trying. with many parts of wales being hilly this drakeford law just is not going to work outside of peak hours where the flow of traffic would be possibly under 20 now.

They bang on about this mythical child who will survive a 20 mph impact, but the child who gets a 30 mph impact will die,
Cobblers if you drive over a child at 20mph, they’ll die.
I would like to know of the 88 fatalities on Welsh roads in 2022, how many were children up to the age of 15….and how many where actually pedestrians.

Your asking for the impossible Snowy "Clarity" Never get that from .Gov

or actually look at it from the other angle. remember even when i was at school we had road safety officers giving talks about road safety. most can remember the green cross code and other public information films geared for kids and road safety. you never see or hear a word about them now. they have a responsibity to stay safe as much as the motorist has there responsibility for their safety too. it aint little kids going to school thats a problem its the bigger ones usually lads who think its funny pushing school mates off pavements into busy traffic that most of us have witnessed.

Boy is it hard to get a straight answer but by short circuiting their system and going direct to UK overall figures you get close to the figures.
It appears that figures for 2021 show that there were 17 fatal child pedestrian ( age 1-15) casualties in the whole of the Uk.
So mathematically the population of Wales is just 5.2% , so 5.2% of 17, which can vary is ‘quite small’ to put it generously.
However, the Welsh ‘Government’ based their case for 20 mph on a child impacting a car, really?

Maybe Welsh Wales is the marker for the rest of us.
Bottom line is they want cars of the road, Public transport to the fore, Or is it just my imagineation.

they cannot win their arguement of firstly climate change. then the move on to clean air. if that does not work its child fatalities. if this is debunked then they,ll dig up something else and will go on forever. if they came out with what might be their main aim of ridding cars off the road then people will not agree but at least they may show some respect for them telling the truth. afraid truth and politics have never been good in bed together of any party, but since 1997 the labour lies and policies have annoyed me more. all these areas with draconian policies regarding cars have one thing in common, labour controlled to give us an insight on whats in store for us under a national one. one prediction will be a 2 pound litre of petrol and diesel or 199.9 to keep us happy.

it would not be too bad if they improved public transport first. i agree but it seems more to do with safe walking and push bikes than improvement in dry travel by road and rail. if its something you,ll never have to do its quite easy telling the rest what they should be doing.

They’re going to restrict your right to travel by car by hook or by crook…..!

more by crook as the only way they,ll do it is price us off the roads in the end by increase in fuel prices and road tax. in the end our biggest allies could end up being our hated insurance companies who will be out of business if they have nobody to screw every year.

The only people driving will be those who can afford the turbocharged milk floats.
The rest of us will be shamelessly screwed by the privatised bus and rail company’s….to replace insurance and fuel costs drivers coughed up, we’ll be paying out to our public transport operators who’ll tell us where we can and can’t go.

Apparently 20 mph is the maximum speed a sheep can run at whilst being chased.
So a friend told me

Close to Wales near the M50 in Gloucestershire late Friday night (11.45pm) 2 men were killed when their Pony & Trap was in collision with a car.

How do you legislate for that? Other than would you be out in a Pony & Trap that late at night?

I’m genuinely concerned about the poor bloody pony

That had it's last trot also

There's nothing better than doing a wheel spin in a supermarket car park for getting you noticed..

Better still on the Police Station car park!