One of the best players i have seen at the club. Albeit only after a few games.
But does anyone know his contract status? Is he a permanent signing, and how long for?…think people will be sniffing around him.

Hope he stays with us. Very elegant player. Thought I would never say that about a Frenchman.

He is indeed a permanent signing. I guess he is contracted for one year with option of two.

Just keep him away from Hangus. Just saying, you never know …….

Take that 2nd year option now, i say.

Me too

I feel Mancini is what I see as the distraction player. Stylish, catches the eye and full of pace and tricks, but he’s a decoy as well. All the clubs we’ve played have praised him to high heaven and other clubs will be aware of his reputation, the French newcomer, the unknown quantity and react accordingly and concentrate on the ‘star’…while the less noticeable players nick in the back door and ‘steal the silver’…..Mancini is at the front draw drawing the attention.

Yes I agree and it's starting to show JA is putting a good side together.

my only concern is that he is new blood in the league and might not be as affective in the second half of the season if teams eventually suss him. would not be the first time in the game that this has happened. we also have not come up against these teams we do struggle against like the ones with giant fit lads all across their side who are not adverce to giving someone a good hard tackle that borders on being illegal.

Nowt new in football, but you use your advantages till they cease being advantages and work out a new form of advantage…that’s what the fly managers do…first rule of war and football, confuse the opposition.

A quality signing without doubt. Had a great game yesterday and deserved the applause when he left the pitch. Reminds me of Andy Monkhouse. Strange that his career seemed to have come to standstill before he came to Pools. On the books of Burnley then let go to Accrington before given a free after only a couple of games for Accy[for god's sake]. Askey certainly has his finger on the pulse player wise.

my only concern is that he is new blood in the league and might not be as affective in the second half of the season if teams eventually suss him. would not be the first time in the game that this has happened. [/quote]

If Mancini keeps his form all season Pools won't be able to hang on to him, so anyone who look first at the bottom of an empty glass can always find something to worry about Just enjoy the fact that Pools have unearthed a good'un, Eh?

He hasn't got Andy Monkhouse's elbows Monky was always entertaining, even if he wasn't playing well!

If Mancini keeps his form all season Pools won't be able to hang on to him, so anyone who look first at the bottom of an empty glass can always find something to worry about Just enjoy the fact that Pools have unearthed a good'un, Eh?[/quote]
no, its not looking at an empty glass its just a fact that this happens to players at many clubs. its always put down by fans as a dip in form but the opposition never get credit for stifling the player out. as for other clubs being after him, well they had the chance and we just did not unearth him from some french bistro. even JA seemed not totally sure by having him on trial before he signed him unlike the rest who were just signed by him. hope you are right and i,m wrong about the lad but do not get too complacent.

If Mancini keeps his form all season Pools won't be able to hang on to him, so anyone who look first at the bottom of an empty glass can always find something to worry about Just enjoy the fact that Pools have unearthed a good'un, Eh?[/quote]
Enjoy it while you’ve got it.

a bigger worry for me rather than a mancini drop of form is donny rovers recalling seaman in january. he is equally a good part of our jigsaw as any other player is.

Enjoy it while you’ve got it.[/quote]

Thats why you try to keep your better players with better, longer contracts. Then if their heads are turned then at least they don't go for nowt.

Thats why you try to keep your better players with better, longer contracts. Then if their heads are turned then at least they don't go for nowt.[/quote]

Of course you try to keep your better players but players staying at a club also has to have the will of the player to stay. Then there's the agents who continuously stir the shit in order to keep their clients moving around cos that's where the agents make their money.
Through Hartley we gave longer contracts and I imagine that concept is pretty raw at the club at the moment.
Whilst I agree Mancini shows all the signs of being capable of plying his trade at a higher level, we have to question why Burnley and then Accy, both at a higher level lost interest. What put them off is a very legitimate question.
It's dead easy to spend other people's money when you don't have to cover the consequences of something going wrong.
In this case I would bite the bullet and go for two years with an option of another year but would understand if the actual decision makers took a different stance.

Of course but we don't get going with this stuff early enough though. We just sit around until the heads are already turned. Other clubs manage it. Its not simply spending money, its making sure potential income isn't lost through assets just walking out of the door for nowt. Some clubs have been set up for years through being careful like this. You've heard the term 'life blood for small clubs'?

Yes timing is important but we don't know how much time is/has already been put into tying Mancini down. For all we know it could be well on the way. Raj said it took a lot of hard work by Lee Rust to get JA on to a three year deal.
But like I said offering the deal and getting it accepted are two different things. There are a lot of factors, conditions and clauses to attend to before the pen is dipped in the inkwell.
We can only but wait.
What is the length and options on Mancini's current contract is a good place to start.
Then go from there.

Mancini will now be a marked man, he will the subject of some rough treatment from opposing defenders, let’s hope he has the temperament when opposing players try to intimidate him.

There is no doubt about that. Not only will his temperament be tested but also some thugs could put him out of the game for long periods.
Referees need to take more responsibility to stop this happening.

Whilst Mancini has caught the eye and looks a very good player let’s not get carried away. He has only played half a dozen league games whilst hopefully he carries on like this.

He seems to bounce up with a smile on his face whihc is good....what this does do is give Cooke more room--he is a v good player when given time on the ball--oppo cant concentrate on everyone!

we are far from a one man team but look a different one without him like yesterday when he went off.

JA quoted its a long one with regards to his hammy injury

thats easy an 8 / 10 weeker that

No updates on the seriousness of his injury on the O.S, by now I would have thought they know ?

Who was the last promising prospect to get a three year deal…….. how’s that worked out. It’s a gamble, but till Mancini’s better it’s all up in the air.
That said, if there’s one player I’d gamble on it would be him.

Still no update on his injury not unless the club are waiting for results of scans ?

Gone back to France. It'll be months before he can even start rehab so it's a sensible decision. He has a mental battle to win during the months of inaction before he can start the physical one.

I was wondering if this kind of injury can have a permanent impact on a player. You sometimes hear player so and so has never been the same since the injury. I know few of us are medical professionals but I know some on here know a very great deal about professional football so I'd love to hear what people think. I'm hoping for the best.

Michael Owen springs to mind post injury but his game was more based on pace

Hopefully he does come back and to us but yeh right now it’s all about rehab, genuine shame

He is contracted to us so he will be back but will he be as good as he was?

How about looking on the positive side

How about not trying to shut down discussion?

Not sure what there is to be positive about two season-ending injuries?

They’ll be back, but two young and promising professionals are about to embark on a pretty gruelling rehabilitation programme - and miss a full year of their career.

Even taking Pools and our prospects this season out of it, it’s a pretty grim situation for both of them.

Because it’s simply a points game and we just have to hope fortune shines on us. That’s all that matters.

Snowy Season 23/24

Yep, that is undeniable and lets hope their spirits remain positive. I was just wondering if anyone would name a player or two who had had come back from inuries similiar to Mancini's and/or Dodds and had come back just as good as they were prior to the imjury. That would give some perspective. Obviously I appreciate that not all ACL injuries are exactly the same and neither are hamstring separations.

You can quote me on that, because that’s what it boils down to doing the work and amassing the points.

It’s a message board, you have a view, I have a view ……difference being I have yet to tell anyone they’re ‘shutting down discussion’ if they have a different view.

I merely tried to say try being positive, if that offends you, seek help.
Admittedly I miss my heady days in the KGB shutting down ‘discussion’ by the undesirables but those days are behind me. ‘Shutting down discussion’ Oh dear.

You talk as though I injured them myself. I don’t recall ever saying anything derogatory about their unfortunate injuries .
However life goes on, I had a double leg break when playing with 16 weeks in plaster from hip to toe…and was told it would effect me in later life …and it has, so I know exactly what it’s like and need no ‘educating’ on what it feels like either.

Ozzy S
Paul Gascoigne suffered an ACL injury in the FA Cup Final and was out for the the whole of the 1991-92 season. Mind, it was Gascoigne and the situation wasn't helped by "an incident " in a night club in late 1991. He played for another 10 years or so, produced some moments of magic -the left foot chip over Colin Hendry and the right foot volleyed goal at Euro 96 -but was never quite the same player in the opinion of many.
In the 1990-91 FL Cup he scored 4 goals in a tie against Pools, so how could he ever surpass that?

Exactly people are allowed to have positive and negatives opinions

Hope he doesn,t get lost......

Yes very good but I still can’t understand why saying be positive is shutting down discussion

Good one, Rupert. Many thanks.

A) Assuming the right to designate someone else's opinion as negative, ignoring any consideration of intent.
B) Assuming a Vogon style superiority

Hope this helps.

Double post.

Not offended. I dont consider your opinions to be important enough to cause offence, I just object to being stamped on.

Really, I made a perfectly innocent comment in the form of a question with a wink at the end which would have told anyone on a messageboard it was a tongue in cheek comment.
You chose to to take offence, I didn’t give it.