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Ha ha we will have to wait and see


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Hello playmates!

A stroke of genius by Raj - to sign someone who was fired by York - or an Arthur type joke?

Did reasonably well on a tight budget at Macclesfield (on his second spell) - and didn't do so well on a large budget at Port Vale.

Or is this Raj at his visionary (BS) best? And we are now preparing for NLN?

Good luck John - we need you to have it!


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He had York in a good position before he was sacked.
The York fans were fuming with the decision & his replacement lasted about 5 months.


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He only left because he fell out with the board for some reason. York fans were gutted. Just got to get behind him.


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Good choice. Turned York around last season and got them promoted. Hope he can walk on water cos this job will be ten times harder given what Curle has left him with. Keith Curle does indeed join the Pools Hall of Fame of Shit Managers joining Busby, Docherty and Moncur.


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Happy with that if we stay up great if we go down we have a manager who knows the National league and what's required.


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In a recent poll York city fans voted for him to return to the tune of 79 per cent.
it's done now and we just have to get behind the new team at the helm and see what they can do.
We wanted change, we have now got that change, so time will tell. Maybe they can save our league status unlike the others we have had to put up with. Let's get behind them.

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poolie wrote:
Happy with that if we stay up great if we go down we have a manager who knows the National league and what's required.


Agree 100%. He will try to do the impossible but when the inevitable happens, he is well equipped to deal with the rigours of the National League.


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"Hello playmates"
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 Post subject: Re: Askey
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This is what one PortVale fan had to say about Askey.



Mixed Bag with Askey, with us he was wedded to 4-3-3 and does bring his former players with him so expect ex Vale, Macc Town and York players to roll up!

Kept us up first season when he came in with 15 or so games, possibly would have had us in the play offs second season had it not been for Covid finishing it early as we were bang in form and missed the cut by .3 of a point PPG or whatever it was. Great season that with the Man City cup tie and the performances were generally good, especially at home.

The behind closed doors season it kind of unfolded for him though, we were one of the favourites after the season before and we started well but then went on a horror run, talk of players causing issues and fall outs and he was gone but doesn't take away that he was very good in that 19/20 season.

The main issue is he does seem to bring a lot of old players he knows which aren't always the best.

I got the feeling that he is better "against the odds" than when the team is expecting to do well, which may work this season for Hartlepool in terms of securing safety.


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 Post subject: Re: Askey
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I can tell you that a lot of York fans will be pissed off about this, as they wanted him back ASAP, or ASAP after their chairman moves on, which he said he will.


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Bluestreak wrote:
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"Hello playmates"
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I liked his song ‘I want a banana’ on You Tube, full of double meanings… such as ‘…bring me back a banana sailor boy…’ :laugh:
New manager, We’ll hope for best but inflate our lifejackets.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TzwAxCbQGw

Yes a superb musical composition.

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 Post subject: Re: Askey
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He only left York because they accused him of talking to Crewe about their job without permission. They have been poor since he left.

Has to be a good option to sort the tactics out.


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Busy Bee was his high point I think


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JohnnyMars wrote:
Busy Bee was his high point I think


Another gem.

Oh, what a glorious thing to be
A healthy, grown-up, busy-busy bee
Whiling away the passing hours
Pinching all the pollen from the cauliflowers
I'd like to be a busy-busy bee
Being just as busy as a bee can be
Flying around the garden, sweetest ever seen
Taking back the honey to the dear old queen
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
Bzz if you like, but don't sting me
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
Buzz if you like, but don't sting me
Bzz-bzz
Oh, what a glorious thing to be
A healthy, grown-up, busy-busy bee
Making hay while time is ripe
Building up the honey-comb just like tripe
I'd like to be a busy-busy bee
Being just as busy as a bee can be
Flying all around the wild hedgerows
Stinging all the cows upon the parson's nose
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
Bzz if you like, but don't sting me
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
Bzz if you like but don't sting me
Bzz, same bee, bzz
Oh, what a glorious thing to be
A healthy, grown-up, busy-busy bee
Visiting the picnics, quite a little tease
Raising little lumps upon the boy scout's knees
I'd like to be a busy-busy bee
Being just as busy as a bee can be
Flirting with the butterfly strong upon the wing
Whooppee, o death, where is thy sting?
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
Bzz if you like but don't sting me
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
Buzz if you like, but don't sting me
(Bzz) haha, silly bee sing isn't it?
Oh, what a glorious thing to be
A nice, obedient, busy-busy bee
To be a good bee one must contrive
For bees in a beehive must behave
But maybe I wouldn't be a bee
Bees are all right when alive, you see
But when bees die, you really should see 'em
Pinned on a card in a mucky museum
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
Bzz if you like but don't sting me
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
I must buzz off!
Bzz if you like, but don't sting me

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 Post subject: Re: Askey
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Nah, he mentions all stations to Barking and I’ve done that run a lot of times from Richmond in the 80’s and 90’s….love the District Line. :laugh:
Mind you, I hope we are as busy as a bee…. clappp

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 Post subject: Re: Askey
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First interview on OS.

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He also left York because the Chairman wanted his son training with the !st Team And Askey told him it would be disruptive.


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 Post subject: Re: Askey
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derwent wrote:
First interview on OS.


Comes over as an honest bloke. Will make a change from the super confident (but failing) Keith Curle.


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Bluestreak wrote:
JohnnyMars wrote:
Busy Bee was his high point I think


Another gem.

Oh, what a glorious thing to be
A healthy, grown-up, busy-busy bee
Whiling away the passing hours
Pinching all the pollen from the cauliflowers
I'd like to be a busy-busy bee
Being just as busy as a bee can be
Flying around the garden, sweetest ever seen
Taking back the honey to the dear old queen
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
Bzz if you like, but don't sting me
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
Buzz if you like, but don't sting me
Bzz-bzz
Oh, what a glorious thing to be
A healthy, grown-up, busy-busy bee
Making hay while time is ripe
Building up the honey-comb just like tripe
I'd like to be a busy-busy bee
Being just as busy as a bee can be
Flying all around the wild hedgerows
Stinging all the cows upon the parson's nose
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
Bzz if you like, but don't sting me
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
Bzz if you like but don't sting me
Bzz, same bee, bzz
Oh, what a glorious thing to be
A healthy, grown-up, busy-busy bee
Visiting the picnics, quite a little tease
Raising little lumps upon the boy scout's knees
I'd like to be a busy-busy bee
Being just as busy as a bee can be
Flirting with the butterfly strong upon the wing
Whooppee, o death, where is thy sting?
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
Bzz if you like but don't sting me
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
Buzz if you like, but don't sting me
(Bzz) haha, silly bee sing isn't it?
Oh, what a glorious thing to be
A nice, obedient, busy-busy bee
To be a good bee one must contrive
For bees in a beehive must behave
But maybe I wouldn't be a bee
Bees are all right when alive, you see
But when bees die, you really should see 'em
Pinned on a card in a mucky museum
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
Bzz if you like but don't sting me
Bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz, honey bee, honey bee
I must buzz off!
Bzz if you like, but don't sting me


Classic clappp


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 Post subject: Re: Askey
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As for his other talents as a football manager i feel he is made of the right stuff to get us out of this.
I really hope all get behind him, the team and the clubs management until the final whistle of the last match is blown.
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Well I am happy. He likes to play attacking attractive football . Can he transform this team? After Tuesday night I can’t even visualise attractive football but I think a step forward.


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Looking forward to Saturday now


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At last, a manager with the right credentials at this level…the sort needed after Challinor’s departure….it’s no guarantee of anything ……. but it has finally re-ignited some hope into this train crash of a season.

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Will judge him on results.
Should be impossible to do a worse win ratio than the last 2 cranks.

Dont expect him to keep us up.
To much damage already done.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Will judge him on results.
Should be impossible to do a worse win ratio than the last 2 cranks.

Dont expect him to keep us up.
To much damage already done.

best thing he can really do is improve performances and attempt to keep what he thinks are our best players for next season. when at macclesfield he built up a solid unspectacular side which played for 90 minutes with a few over achievers in the side. if he does the same with pools everyone should be happy.


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harrogatepoolie wrote:
Well I am happy. He likes to play attacking attractive football . Can he transform this team? After Tuesday night I can’t even visualise attractive football but I think a step forward.


Hartley also said that in his first interview ?
Do we have any players to play fast attacking football, you can only p*** with the c*** you have.


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Things must be bad.
Ya normally get 1 or 2 on here
Saying well done Raj when he appoints a new manager.
:o :lol:


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If he produces the goods I’ll say it…but for now I’m like the wary man opening the door into the haunted house apprehensively ….. hoping for the best, but a bit twitchy.

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its not as if anyone has never heard of askey. its not like appointing a manager from the south coast no one north of luton has ever heard of even though they have had some success.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Will judge him on results.
Should be impossible to do a worse win ratio than the last 2 cranks.

Dont expect him to keep us up.
To much damage already done.


Silver lining if the worst comes to the worst, I believe he is the correct Man for the HellHole(NatLge)


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I don’t know if he’ll save us or not, but it’s a slim chance and I hope he succeeds, so we’ll just have to suck it and see.
One thing for certain is we were definitely going down with Captain Curle steering the ship….if that had been me on Tuesday night I’d have slipped out at full time with my hood up amongst the crowd and sent the wife for my personal effects and P45 the next day.

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Grayhoundend wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Will judge him on results.
Should be impossible to do a worse win ratio than the last 2 cranks.

Dont expect him to keep us up.
To much damage already done.


Silver lining if the worst comes to the worst, I believe he is the correct Man for the HellHole(NatLge)

agree that he does look a better fit for pools than many before him did. the main problem is does he realise what he is fully taken on with quick draw singh on one hand and a group of other managers players of varying degrees of ability.


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Reading up on the Brentford Manager Frank,never ever played professional football but looks like he knows how to manage a football team with out any superstars.


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It’s just man management, it can be applied to eveything…..the idea only professional footballers should manage is shown for the fantasy it is…..if a welding company lost it’s managing director would they employ the best, most talented welder to take over, of course not, because they’re totally different jobs….same with football.

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Snowy wrote:
It’s just man management, it can be applied to eveything…..the idea only professional footballers should manage is shown for the fantasy it is…..if a welding company lost it’s managing director would they employ the best, most talented welder to take over, of course not, because they’re totally different jobs….same with football.


In my day it was said you should not necessarily make a good tradesman a supervisor, I was a supervisor a few times, tbh there were loads of tradesmen better than me but I blowing my own trumpet had good organisational skills, they call it project management nowadays, I await the flak !


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A welder becoming Supervisor/ foreman is it a bit different from a welder getting promoted to the role of managing director of a company. :wink:

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Snowy wrote:
A welder becoming Supervisor/ foreman is it a bit different from a welder getting promoted to the role of managing director of a company. :wink:


Curly Whurly would have made a good welder, Thats what he said, anyway!!!


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Snowy wrote:
A welder becoming Supervisor/ foreman is it a bit different from a welder getting promoted to the role of managing director of a company. :wink:


Worked with few in management who had been welders, a case of who you know not what you knew which was the norm in the industry I worked in.


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Sigh……I was using the example of welders as a geralisation, not a review of welders prospects in the management structure or indeed tales from the riverbank..
As a footnote I recall years ago reading a book during my luncbrealk and a welder in the cabin asked me why I was reading a book… sctatchinghead ….I never replied :roll: and he then stated he was proud to say he didn’t have a book in the house…… :roll: still ignored him.

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Snowy wrote:
Sigh……I was using the example of welders as a geralisation, not a review of welders prospects in the management structure or indeed tales from the riverbank..
As a footnote I recall years ago reading a book during my luncbrealk and a welder in the cabin asked me why I was reading a book… sctatchinghead ….I never replied :roll: and he then stated he was proud to say he didn’t have a book in the house…… :roll: still ignored him.


I could never understand why welders were held in such high regard getting paid an enhanced rate, welding is welding wether it be plate, structural or pipe welding.
I think from what i know about you Snowy you worked in a trade/engineering where you had to be multi skilled like myself. Our responsibilities were no different from a welder, you had to get everything 100%. but never got an enhanced rate for it.


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Jamie1952 wrote:

I could never understand why welders were held in such high regard getting paid an enhanced rate, welding is welding wether it be plate, structural or pipe welding.
I think from what i know about you Snowy you worked in a trade/engineering where you had to be multi skilled like myself. Our responsibilities were no different from a welder, you had to get everything 100%. but never got an enhanced rate for it.

my old man was a welder and bloody good at it if reports were true about him. there are welders and there are welders like in every walk of life, some good, bad and inbetween. saying that it aint magic as my lad self taught himself to do it and can weld all cars well past MOT standard when necessary. think a lot of tradesmen like to add some mystery to their jobs to make them harder than they actually are.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Sigh……I was using the example of welders as a geralisation, not a review of welders prospects in the management structure or indeed tales from the riverbank..
As a footnote I recall years ago reading a book during my luncbrealk and a welder in the cabin asked me why I was reading a book… sctatchinghead ….I never replied :roll: and he then stated he was proud to say he didn’t have a book in the house…… :roll: still ignored him.


I could never understand why welders were held in such high regard getting paid an enhanced rate, welding is welding wether it be plate, structural or pipe welding..


No it isn't.
Welding plate is completely different to welding a pipe in position either vertical or overhead.
The same as stick welding is completely different to TIG.


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kebab & chips wrote:
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Snowy wrote:
Sigh……I was using the example of welders as a geralisation, not a review of welders prospects in the management structure or indeed tales from the riverbank..
As a footnote I recall years ago reading a book during my luncbrealk and a welder in the cabin asked me why I was reading a book… sctatchinghead ….I never replied :roll: and he then stated he was proud to say he didn’t have a book in the house…… :roll: still ignored him.


I could never understand why welders were held in such high regard getting paid an enhanced rate, welding is welding wether it be plate, structural or pipe welding..


No it isn't.
Welding plate is completely different to welding a pipe in position either vertical or overhead.
The same as stick welding is completely different to TIG.

Regarding welding, when we started training at the training centre, we had to spend a fortnight on the other trades to understand how our roles depend on each other, so we ended up in the Fab shop for a month…..we were basically doing cutting and stick welding.
During the the training we were in a ‘curtained booth’ …the instructor would at times order us to stop, pull back the curtains and we’d assemble to show how our projects were progressing….till one day he called us out and we noticed one booth had it’s curtain shut, and so did he…he crept over and slid the curtain back to reveal one of the lads fast asleep, full face mask on all balanced on his welding rod supporting him as he slumbered…it did not end well. :laugh:

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kebab & chips wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Sigh……I was using the example of welders as a geralisation, not a review of welders prospects in the management structure or indeed tales from the riverbank..
As a footnote I recall years ago reading a book during my luncbrealk and a welder in the cabin asked me why I was reading a book… sctatchinghead ….I never replied :roll: and he then stated he was proud to say he didn’t have a book in the house…… :roll: still ignored him.


I could never understand why welders were held in such high regard getting paid an enhanced rate, welding is welding wether it be plate, structural or pipe welding..


No it isn't.
Welding plate is completely different to welding a pipe in position either vertical or overhead.
The same as stick welding is completely different to TIG.


I am aware of all the different procedures in welding, I worked in the yards and on the rigs, basically the principle is the same, fusing metal together wether be with a stick or a rod. For me gas welding is more a precise procedure using an oxy/gas torch and a rod melting the metal and feeding the rod in.I had a go at both on my pre apprenticeship course and found gas welding was a more skilful process.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:59 pm 
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I had a friend who was a welder and reputedly very good at it. He's dead now bless him. He started up his own business and initially was doing well but eventually went bust simply because he couldn't understand the concepts of cash flow or profit retention. A lot of hard working, good at their job people fall on those two rocks.

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derwent wrote:
I had a friend who was a welder and reputedly very good at it. He's dead now bless him. He started up his own business and initially was doing well but eventually went bust simply because he couldn't understand the concepts of cash flow or profit retention. A lot of hard working, good at their job people fall on those two rocks.

same with a lot of good car mechanics who have a good reputation and set up on their own. the hard part is not getting em to do the job but finding them open. can be easier staying in bed on a cold day if you lack self motivation unless you have bills to pay. know quite a few like that over the years.


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