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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:06 pm 
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I don’t believe a word of it. They state £215m in ready cash (not including asset).. really? Who on earth has that sort of funds and hasn’t got it invested?

The big one for me is point three of their proposal

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3 – Consortium will lift all banning orders on fans imposed by the club and assist with legal help via clubs solicitors for fans who are banned by Cleveland police.


So they will lift banning order and fight the police for banned fans irrespective of offence. No reputable business or businessman would agree to this.


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The gullible are lapping this up, what collection of 'serious businessmen/women' go to a twitter journo (use the term loosely) and unveil every facet of their plan?

It's mental that anyone is giving this an ounce of credibility.


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It reminds me of the Ted Forster Darlo takeover. I wonder if Darlo Pete has a Poolie relative…


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The mention of crypto made me roll my eyes


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Would love it to be true but the statement they’ve shared is shockingly written. Also what successful ‘businessman/woman’ also shares their entire plan up front?


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It sounds like a manifesto for buying a football club in an exercise for 14 year olds at St Naive’s Academy. :roll:

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Krampesh wrote:
Would love it to be true but the statement they’ve shared is shockingly written. Also what successful ‘businessman/woman’ also shares their entire plan up front?


Two things you never reveal….how much you earn and your next move!


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It’s very very silly


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It reads like a wind up to me.


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We have spent a lifetime chasing the mythical takeover, IOR apart.
IOR came from nowhere, not expected, but they run their course and I enjoyed the security they brought most of all after a lifetime of teetering on the edge of the abyss…..we’re back on our old territory and not prepared to endure it as we once would…..but the ‘consortiums/ sugar Daddy’s are still as elusive as ever and the rumour mill as busy as ever……we live in hope.

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Snowy wrote:
We have spent a lifetime chasing the mythical takeover, IOR apart.
IOR came from nowhere, not expected, but they run their course and I enjoyed the security they brought most of all after a lifetime of teetering on the edge of the abyss…..we’re back on our old territory and not prepared to endure it as we once would…..but the ‘consortiums/ sugar Daddy’s are still as elusive as ever and the rumour mill as busy as ever……we live in hope.


Just before IOR.
Our Fanbase was half what it is now.
Its a disgrace were we are now.
Our fans are well n truly having the piss ripped out of them.
Could only happen at Pools were a Promotion Budget produces Relegation.
Sad but True.
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Its a double relegation by the way.
Who in there right mind would want to be employed qt this Cesspit of a club next season.
Only losers which other clubs dont want.
Thqts not criticism.
Thats reality.


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Maybe Janick Gers might come along, born and bred Poolie and I believe a Season Ticket holder lives locally in Yarm.Whilst there are some millionaires in Hartlepool I can’t see any of them investing in Pools, well it’s not an investment you invest your money to get a return which you wouldn’t at Pools.


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I still maintain that we would have been better phoenixing the club. Yes we would have had to start again a la Darlo but with a league standard ground on a peppercorn rent it would have been a fun ride.


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I still maintain that we would have been better phoenixing the club. Yes we would have had to start again a la Darlo but with a league standard ground on a peppercorn rent it would have been a fun ride.

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The more time that passes, the more you look to be right.
And as for the takeover, any miniscule shred of credibility disappears with the lifting of the banning orders. Unless we have a multi-millionaire who is banned lol

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Mumtaz's rucksack wrote:
The more time that passes, the more you look to be right.
And as for the takeover, any miniscule shred of credibility disappears with the lifting of the banning orders. Unless we have a multi-millionaire who is banned lol

Maybe the Driscoll brothers are interested. :wink:

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More like the Chuckle brothers!

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We would have started around the Northern league with zero debts. Sage would have got a letter saying tough shit parasites, you lost.

The ground is about £1500 a month, it might have gone up a touch but that’s what it was. We could have installed someone like Alan Bamford in as chairman along with a fan based board. The town would have rallied round and the best players at that level would have been delighted to sign for Pools and play at the Vic. With a completely debt free starting point we would have quickly risen to National league level and then who knows. We would not owe Raj a couple of million which I suspect is being paid off from unplanning income such as cup runs.

It would have been more fun than watching the current debacle.


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not really a distraction on the shit on the pitch. if only it was true but that would be too easy.


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not really a distraction on the shit on the pitch. if only it was true but that would be too easy.


Speaking of shit, What the hell has happened to the pitch, Looks like a cabbage patch.

And whos doing the lines the one across the centre looks like its been down wearing a blindfold.


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We would have started around the Northern league with zero debts. Sage would have got a letter saying tough shit parasites, you lost.

The ground is about £1500 a month, it might have gone up a touch but that’s what it was. We could have installed someone like Alan Bamford in as chairman along with a fan based board. The town would have rallied round and the best players at that level would have been delighted to sign for Pools and play at the Vic. With a completely debt free starting point we would have quickly risen to National league level and then who knows. We would not owe Raj a couple of million which I suspect is being paid off from unplanning income such as cup runs.

It would have been more fun than watching the current debacle.


I had massive doubts about following Darlo in the northern league but I’m glad I stuck with it, local players playing for the club and buying into the fan owned concept, best years of following the club.
Ironically the higher we got, the more mercenaries we attracted but thankfully not too many of them.
You certainly would have enjoyed the ride had you done the same.


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I have great respect for what the Darlington public have achieved from a far lower starting point than we would have had. If you had started with Feethams you’d be league level now or National league at worst.


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If only George had fancied a rugby club. sadx

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Has Darlo Pete changed allegiances? As I said on another thread, this takeover rumour does smell strongly of Ted Forster!


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Like Mr I, I have great respect for the real Darlo supporters. Over the past two seasons they have held aBoost the Budget fund which each year reached over £120K. I believe Pools tried it and we struggled to reach £20K


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I think that would have been very different if it was a club owned by the fans. That go fund me 80k for example was daft. Raising money to give to Sage and Pam Duxbury. It was well intentioned but the money could have been far better spent.


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How much "cash" has Raj put in? I dont mean things like "management" charges etc from his other companies which could grossly inflate what his is "owed".Its the cash amount is what he is due back from a sale plus something for his effort.

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I don’t have figures to hand but it’s a couple of million plus. What we don’t know is what’s been repaid.


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The most recent set of accounts for he holding company seem to show a £1.2m repayment of his £2m loan. That's a fact from Companies House.


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Thanks all.
Interesting.

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Also have on good authority the takeover is a load of ‘nonsense’ - told this by someone from the club.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
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not really a distraction on the shit on the pitch. if only it was true but that would be too easy.


Speaking of shit, What the hell has happened to the pitch, Looks like a cabbage patch.

And whos doing the lines the one across the centre looks like its been down wearing a blindfold.


Another case of standards slipping. Since DC left, the standards have been like a Little Chef.


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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
The most recent set of accounts for he holding company seem to show a £1.2m repayment of his £2m loan. That's a fact from Companies House.


So he is still owed £800k, yet wants £3 million to sell up. I get he might want more than he has put in, but if he was offered £1 million, that gives him a profit of £200k, not a bad return, you wouldnt get that sort of interest from a bank the last few years with interest rates being rock bottom.


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Takeover is another chancer who has leaked it to the press for some reason.
On an unrelated note has anyone watched that series on Amazon, Jack Ryan?


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Raj isn’t going anywhere. Couldn’t leave his ego at the door. Loves the prestige of everybody talking about him.

Meanwhile… Wrexham and their American owners truly tapping into what it means to be an on the up and community first football team. Imagine if that was Pools…


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I don't even think the takeover is a chancer.

It's done by somebody to unsettle the club - for whatever reason.

I do wonder whether it's somebody whose friends have been banned and they've added that paragraph re: unbanning just to pull their leg.


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Raj isn’t going anywhere. Couldn’t leave his ego at the door. Loves the prestige of everybody talking about him.

Meanwhile… Wrexham and their American owners truly tapping into what it means to be an on the up and community first football team. Imagine if that was Pools…

Watching Wrexham on the box….looks like a new stand being built behind one of the goals but the floodlights need looking at.

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The most recent set of accounts for he holding company seem to show a £1.2m repayment of his £2m loan. That's a fact from Companies House.


So he is still owed £800k, yet wants £3 million to sell up. I get he might want more than he has put in, but if he was offered £1 million, that gives him a profit of £200k, not a bad return, you wouldnt get that sort of interest from a bank the last few years with interest rates being rock bottom.


Not necessarily - its all down to the wording - he might want £1m personally and the £2m is to settle the debts to the likes of Sorts England. Or, yes, he might want £2.2m for his shares (profit) and 800K for his loan. Point is we don't know and may never know.


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When Raj put us into admin he always said he didn’t expect any of his money back, before blocking any move to keep the club as it was since he backheeled any CVA attempt as he was the largest creditor.
He also made a statement denying the club had loans from him saying the club was his so how could he loan himself money?
All bullshit of course. Not saying he will do the same to you but let’s face it, he has a funny way of doing things.


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We would have started around the Northern league with zero debts. Sage would have got a letter saying tough shit parasites, you lost.

The ground is about £1500 a month, it might have gone up a touch but that’s what it was. We could have installed someone like Alan Bamford in as chairman along with a fan based board. The town would have rallied round and the best players at that level would have been delighted to sign for Pools and play at the Vic. With a completely debt free starting point we would have quickly risen to National league level and then who knows. We would not owe Raj a couple of million which I
suspect is being paid off from unplanning income such as cup runs.

It would have been more fun than watching the current debacle.


I do not understand why uncle ken didn't offer the club to the fans? Surely that would have been the sensible thing to do at the time unless I have missed something?


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When Raj put us into admin he always said he didn’t expect any of his money back, before blocking any move to keep the club as it was since he backheeled any CVA attempt as he was the largest creditor.
He also made a statement denying the club had loans from him saying the club was his so how could he loan himself money?
All bullshit of course. Not saying he will do the same to you but let’s face it, he has a funny way of doing things.

Am I correct in thinking he was owed £800K and said on Radio Tees he wouldn't want it back and then withheld the "golden share" because it wasn't paid back?


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We would have started around the Northern league with zero debts. Sage would have got a letter saying tough shit parasites, you lost.

The ground is about £1500 a month, it might have gone up a touch but that’s what it was. We could have installed someone like Alan Bamford in as chairman along with a fan based board. The town would have rallied round and the best players at that level would have been delighted to sign for Pools and play at the Vic. With a completely debt free starting point we would have quickly risen to National league level and then who knows. We would not owe Raj a couple of million which I
suspect is being paid off from unplanning income such as cup runs.

It would have been more fun than watching the current debacle.


I do not understand why uncle ken didn't offer the club to the fans? Surely that would have been the sensible thing to do at the time unless I have missed something?


There wasn’t an organised fan group at the time and I think IOR just wanted Pools off their hands asap.


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We would have started around the Northern league with zero debts. Sage would have got a letter saying tough shit parasites, you lost.

The ground is about £1500 a month, it might have gone up a touch but that’s what it was. We could have installed someone like Alan Bamford in as chairman along with a fan based board. The town would have rallied round and the best players at that level would have been delighted to sign for Pools and play at the Vic. With a completely debt free starting point we would have quickly risen to National league level and then who knows. We would not owe Raj a couple of million which I
suspect is being paid off from unplanning income such as cup runs.

It would have been more fun than watching the current debacle.


I do not understand why uncle ken didn't offer the club to the fans? Surely that would have been the sensible thing to do at the time unless I have missed something?


There wasn’t an organised fan group at the time and I think IOR just wanted Pools off their hands asap.


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When Raj put us into admin he always said he didn’t expect any of his money back, before blocking any move to keep the club as it was since he backheeled any CVA attempt as he was the largest creditor.
He also made a statement denying the club had loans from him saying the club was his so how could he loan himself money?
All bullshit of course. Not saying he will do the same to you but let’s face it, he has a funny way of doing things.

Am I correct in thinking he was owed £800K and said on Radio Tees he wouldn't want it back and then withheld the "golden share" because it wasn't paid back?


It was around that amount. Said he didnt want a penny back then blocked any CVA because he wanted more back.
Eventually all he did get was a share of transfer fee add ons that came into the club following the name change.

Still pisses me off that Tees didnt push him harder at the time and also when he got involved with you lot, they gave him an easy ride and didn't ask the hard questions.
Any awkward question that was asked they just accepted the first answer he gave and moved on. Piss poor journalism and lack of research done beforehand.


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When Raj put us into admin he always said he didn’t expect any of his money back, before blocking any move to keep the club as it was since he backheeled any CVA attempt as he was the largest creditor.
He also made a statement denying the club had loans from him saying the club was his so how could he loan himself money?
All bullshit of course. Not saying he will do the same to you but let’s face it, he has a funny way of doing things.

Am I correct in thinking he was owed £800K and said on Radio Tees he wouldn't want it back and then withheld the "golden share" because it wasn't paid back?


It was around that amount. Said he didnt want a penny back then blocked any CVA because he wanted more back.
Eventually all he did get was a share of transfer fee add ons that came into the club following the name change.

Still pisses me off that Tees didnt push him harder at the time and also when he got involved with you lot, they gave him an easy ride and didn't ask the hard questions.
Any awkward question that was asked they just accepted the first answer he gave and moved on. Piss poor journalism and lack of research done beforehand.


I think Singh would want want to know what questions would be asked before any interview. any he didn’t like would have to be omitted before the interview went ahead.


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