- PH in his latest Fail article claiming no more incomings now till Jan

like really ? totally buggered if one of the CBs gets injured or

an tbh we still could do with someone replacing Murray as hes sunday league standard woeful !

eiphos.."an tbh we still could do with someone replacing Murray as hes sunday league standard woeful !"


..you and loyal fan appear to be one and the same..why?

Never known a club play a back 3 and literally only have 3 centre backs to choose from. One injury and it forces Hartley into changing everything. Not sustainable for a club with an apparent decent budget

It a mystery…Maybe we both have eyes in our heads

Think Senna can cover CB.

I would prefer Sylla--more positional discipline

If Hartley can't see that Sylla out of position would be more effective than Murray at centre half then I give up.
Also Lacey must go to bed every night thanking Christ Murray being so bad has taken the spotlight off him as he is also below standard for this level

disloyal.."It a mystery…"

..yeah..a strange one that.. but its not just both your obsessions with murray/lacey is it..and i could go on ..but just dont see the point in multiple accounts personally.. but if you get off on that kind of self indulgence fine.. crack on

January
More like July.
But Hartley will be long gone by then.

Please go on.....

The obsession with Murray is totally ridiculous. The Crewe goal on Tuesday was the first home goal we’ve conceded with him in the team this season after 401 minutes!

Facts don’t matter Mr S…. at least not when there’s a moan involved.

Ok some facts...
We are playing 5 at the back and 2 holding midfielders yet have conceded more goals than any other team in the division, with Murray and Lacey playing pretty much throughout.
In last 2games we have been unable to hold onto leads against sides most people generally recognize as pretty poor

I am all for optimism but if people are trying to claim our defense is solid that isn't remotely supportable factually

Mr Loyal (the irony is noted!). I didn’t say the defence is solid. You are of course correct it’s the worst in the league. I simply pointed out that your obsession with Murray is ridiculous. We’ve conceded more goals per game with Sterry and Ferguson (two untouchables who are seemingly beyond criticism from your good self) than with Paterson playing.

Like most fans I’m worried about Sutton on Saturday. That said I’m more concerned by our failure to score goals from open play than by our current back five.

Bit rich coming from you

Not just a decent budget, a PLAYOFF budget according to Raj.

No matter individuals thoughts on certain defenders, is it not stupid to only have 3 centre backs when we play a back 3? Especially when our cover then falls to Niang, who has rightly started in centre mid recently, and Sylla, who I don’t think has ever played there.
The point being with 1 injury we either have to change formation or disrupt our current starting team

There will be no keep quiet compo disclosure to PHs sacking.
A verbal war of words on its way.
Chairman n Managers opinions as wide as the Pacific Ocean.
New manager 6 weeks later Merlin the Magician.

Hindsight :
Wild n Barrow 3rd top.
Just saying like. (which im entitled to).
No malice intended.
UTP.

[quote="Eiphos_3"]banghead - PH in his latest Fail article claiming no more incomings now till Jan

like really ? totally buggered if one of the CBs gets injured or

obviously he has got a crystal ball or the cards have shown him there will be no injuries or suspensions in that position till january. wish when he meets his fortune teller they,ll give him the exact position we,ll finish next may.

nah, murray is doing a temporary poor repair job at that already.

We nearly had 2 players in during the window.
But the part of England Hartlepool is Homesickness was the reason for us not getting them over the line.

Professional footballers dont suffer from home sickness.

Dreading to think what next seasons team looks like.
Hopefully not rebuilding from Administration.
UTP.

Who told you, or were you fondling your crystal balls.
More wet dreams.

Players will move, you just have to make it worthwhile.
Unless there is a pay structure in place.

Players are not obliged to live in the town anyway nowadays. we had challinor for more than 5 minutes travelling across the country to do his job. Do not know where any of the present squad live but doubt any live in the town anymore. its an old excuse made by some that players will not move because of the town itself or where it is in the country. Exeter and plymouth are no further out on their limb as hartlepool is but it does not stop them bringing players in and some where previously northern based.

Most of the players live either in Yarm / Ingleby Barwick / Durham area.

The Marina used to host some of the players but think that apartment went ages ago.

i pass a number of players daily driving north bound past Wolvo when im going into the office

Living in the town would be ok if you like being approached by that dreaded sub species of people who want to bore you to death if they spot you out anywhere from shopping to having a drink or something to eat.
Like some illiterate Death Star they spot you, home in on you attach grappling hooks and give you their fundamentally illiterate view on Pools, playing for pools, supporting pools, where you’re going wrong on the pitch, where the managers going wrong, the chairman’s going wrong, can’t understand why Putin gets a bad press, life in general , the meaning of life and the Universe……. and how they know exactly how to sort out where it’s going wrong on and off the pitch.
I’d commute from Uzbekistan if it was me.

The writing is on the wall from Raj program notes---he thinks we have a good enough budget and its down to the manager now--while these things arent one or the other right now I have more sympathy for Raj than Hartley

I think a lot is made of how people define a 'playoff budget'--ie is it in the 7 highest in the league--or is it a budget that can be competitive I think Raj sees it as the latter.

Really we havent done it a lot differently to Barrow--we dont have one of larger budget so have gone outside the box and trusted the manager to recruit based on his expertise (non-league for Wild, Scotland for Hartley)....its early days but one seems to be doing better than the other.

Completely agree with the above. To me it’s Hartley who takes the majority of the blame for the use of whatever budget we’ve got. We’re supposed to have a Head of Recruitment but there is no way that they had anything to do with the majority of the signings we’ve made and Hartley has overruled him to bring his own players in. Which is fine if it works, but it seems unlikely that we had any plans to sign Letheren, Tumilty, Paterson, Niang, Murray, Hastie or Hamilton - so that’s no on Raj or the budget, it’s how Hartley has wanted to spend it.

Add in the fact that he turned down the option on Bryn Morris, (he gave a pretty scathing interview when he signed for Grimsby about how it was all handled) who may not have been everyone’s cup of tea but at least you knew he was good enough for the level. Not to mention him admitting to signing Ellis Taylor on the back of one decent preseason game against us, he doesn’t exactly have the best record as things stand.

Hartley has clearly massively underestimated the level and by the looks of things right now, built a poor team that he doesn’t know how to get something out of. Hopefully we can turn things round but it doesn’t look likely at present.

hartley will never be able to turn this squad into the best footballing side in the division but there is no reason why he cannot attempt to make it the fittest with em still running in the last minute as they were in the first. with so many scottish lads in the squad it does make me wonder if the main difference between scottish football and the one down here is more to do with the fitness of players rather than the quality they have.

The loan business Pools did this summer was really poor. The signing of Taylor is baffling - he doesn't look ready for men's football and hasn't made the match day squad for a month.Jack Hamilton is now 5th choice forward behind Umerah, Maguire, McDonald and Ndjoli. Only Menayese looks like a decent signing and is playing regularly. Odour hasn't shown anything yet.

We started last season with Tyler Burey and Matty Daly plus Goodwin and Jones on loan from Stoke. You'd think we'd dropped down a division never mind changed manager.

loanees are a gamble anyway and in bureys case it was a case of where we might have been without his injury. one that certainly came off. it took daly wahile to get going and then recalled once he had only to be sent somewhere else. was not excited about goodwin and jones and that hull lad never seemed to get much of a look in till the season was dead. apart from possibly him pools do give loan players a chance and time on the pitch unlike some where the best they get is being a non playing sub and a couple of minutes time added on. you,d think we could have got some more really good ones because of this.