‘A few local care homes and a tiny construction business’ and inferring he’s not a rich man is definitely a good way to annoy a rich man. You haven’t said he’s not the richest man in the world you straight up said he’s not rich and doesn’t know what he’s doing.

Interesting to see you turn on the man you defend so devoutly.

pesh ..."A few local care homes and a tiny construction business ..and inferring he’s not a rich man ’.."Interesting to see you turn on the man you defend so devoutly."

..of course raj is a successful rich businessman ..and thank god he knows exactly what he's doing. ..has local care homes and a small building firm ..but think he knows hes not the richest man in the world like..and wouldn't be upset with anyone saying so...turning on him? ..think you are just being deliberately? obtuse now pal..or maybe just being your usual daft ha'p'orth self and getting the wrong end of the stick yet again ? ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwoG81JlqFU

Ok let’s circle back. ‘We can’t be like Accrington because they have a rich benefactor and we don’t’. Raj Singh as you have now admitted is a rich benefactor. No he’s not the richest but he has us as a sustainable club - which I’m fairly certain is actually how Accrington are run now. So why can’t we be run sensibly like them and achieve their success when we bring in bigger crowds which suggests more money to spend on the playing and managerial staff?
Nice to see you’ve upgraded your pals business interests though.

pesh..‘Ok let’s circle back."We can’t be like Accrington because they have a rich benefactor and we don’t"...

..no.. your words..re read and actually quote what i said..

‘crowds nowt to do with it ..its due to a multi millionaire buying accrington ffs....like pulling teeth this...’

Not what you said? You are right though it is like pulling teeth.

pesh..."Not what you said? You are right though it is like pulling teeth."

‘crowds nowt to do with it ..its due to a multi millionaire buying accrington ffs....like pulling teeth this...’

..well done..thats what i said..now compare that to what you claimed i said...

‘We can’t be like Accrington because they have a rich benefactor and we don’t’.

..go have a cup of tea.. have a think... and get back to me later..

but do you know where andy holt has spent his millions at the club. he openly said that he will not be there for life and has spent millions on ground and pitch improvements to get the club to FL standards. think fans will get a shock when we eventually visit the place again. he has increase the budget on the playing side but not to the extent some may think. his legacy wants it to be the ground and not stupid transfer fees payed out. Another aspect we never talk about is club sponsorships. do other clubs bigger or smaller get more out of em than pools do. in todays football world its not just about the size of your crowd its sponsorship money that counts as well.

This is what I’m getting at. He’s spent money on ground improvements but has stated the manager can only spend what is brought in.
Realistically we get an extra 2-3000 on the gate than them and have the suit direct money (‘not out of place in the championship’) as well as a multitude of other sponsors. Yes we have debt but it’s owed mostly to the man who owns us and sport England which is a very low repayment. This suggests we should have a bigger or similar budget to them so again why can’t we have similar success? (Not aimed at yourself Accrington fan)

accy.."in todays football world its not just about the size of your crowd its sponsorship money that counts as well."

....nail on the head..hallelujah brother..

No club makes financial forecasts on expected crowd sizes, too variable unless you settle for a real bottom line figure.

On the question of rich men if there was a scale between 1 - 10 of rich men I doubt if Raj would get off the bottom rung. To me he is just a very well off business man.

jon.."On the question of rich men if there was a scale between 1 - 10 of rich men I doubt if Raj would get off the bottom rung. To me he is just a very well off business man."

..correct..raj is rich compared to most of us plebs like..but he aint compared to someone like andy holt at accrington...or weaver at harrogate... or the hollywood duo at wrexham... or the class of 92 at salford etc etc etc..but explaining that to some of the less fortunate on here can be problematic..

without Raj we would be in big trouble IMO--i dont think anyone else is waiting in the wings.
The additional challenge we have other clubs dont is we still have the anchor of having to pay Sage off weighing us down

He’s had two opportunities to sell the club in the past, one to a current sponsor. His valuation of the club is the issue here

This is great and all but we are run sustainably so his wealth doesn’t matter. I am consistent in my message that I don’t want us to rely on an owner pumping cash in. Much like Accrington where the owner doesn’t pump cash in because they are run sustainably on the football side…

Sugar daddies are few and far between in the history of Hartlepool and what local examples we have don’t wanna know, indeed the closest we got to it was IOR which lasted far longer than I expected .
Most owners over the past century haven small businessmen giving the club the kiss of life.
This recent idea by some of anyone coming in is supposed to have ‘loadsa money’, is patently ridiculous, you have to have a sound financial strategy. Advice given by keyboard strategists telling owners how to spend their money without zero knowledge of the club’s finances is beyond a joke.

snowy..."Most owners over the past century haven small businessmen giving the club the kiss of life."

..correct...even though we are a "big" club with "big" crowds and "massive untapped potential"...thing is raj apparently drives a bentley...suppose it's easy for some on here to get a bit confused like....remind me ...what motor did "cracking company" gibson drive ?

"If you think a man who drives a Bentley, owns a football club and has a spare few million to put into it isn’t a rich then I don’t know what to say."

I’d be more concerned if they were driving a Lada…..A reg.
I suspect if Raj arrived at the Vic on God’s command, descending from the heavens in a shaft of celestial sunlight, the guillotine knitters would be calling him because he couldn’t afford a decent car.

exactly. i,m sure some would like raj to bankrupt himself to increase the playing budget and bring in a couple of 250k signings that the boro could not afford. e years owners of succseful businesses have come into clubs and cocked em up for future years. they came in with the best intentions, but unlike their day to day business hadn,t a clue on how to run a football club. back in the days of the local butcher, baker or candlestick maker type of chairman/owner if was far easier to sign players with the maximum wage in force and no bloody leeches or agents whichever you want to call em being involved.

Regarding agents I was listening to an agent invited on to a national sports radio station. He immediately insisted he was not an agent and kept correcting them if they used the term, as he had a more benign title for his role as an agent which I can’t recall.
I now don’t like agents even more after enduring his pomposity……but then I never did like them.

What did he actually describe himself as. A proffesional footballers financial representative. Wonder when they,ll set up a body for them and can eventually take a university degree on the subject and make it part of the national currlicum for schools.