Poor Start

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4448

poolie1 wrote:

billyliar.."Some people at that club are earning decent money and are not producing the goods..."Decent wages compared to what say we might get"

..player leaves......billy not happy...its cos raj wont pay him decent wages hes on more money at shields etc
..player underperforms......billy not happy...but hes getting decent wages and its just not good enough etc

...as i say just not very bright... :character-jestercolor:

This coming from the guy who thinks Scottish football was going to be our saviour this year. Looking a bit silly now aren't you? So how many games is it before you start calling the manager bonehead? Your too thick to see were the club is heading.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

billy..."relegation certainties"..

....and only 5 games in ?....that's the thing about clowns....they never truly understand why everyone finds them funny....one dimensional with zero insight.. :character-jestercolor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21qEWtCC6Lk

Krampesh · **Joined:** Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:14 am **Posts:** 613

poolie1 wrote:

a few things worrying me 5 league games in and with the transfer window closing the end of the month....

1.we have started the season with only 3 recognised central defenders and when one is out injured we are forced into completely changing our shape..that's just ridiculous...if the team performs best with 3 at the back and its hartley's preferred set up given we have 2 decent wing backs then one injury shouldn't mean we have to change the formation...we clearly need another decent defender in..
2.flapper is non league imo, but as we are unfortunately lumbered with him yet again for the rest of the season, we need to have a decent keeper to bring in for competition and for when it gets worse and the shit really starts hitting the fan... which with flapper it inevitably will..and whoever we bring in needs to be experienced and capable not a young kid...
3.we have 4 defensive central midfielders and crawford and shelton...no way that mix is going to work out and so something definitely needs to change there....

..am banking on hartley being well aware of the issues despite all the talk being about lack of quality in the final third...the next few days will be interesting..
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I was just about to commend you for making an original reasoned point expressing your views without having a go at other people and then you reverted to type...
Point 1 I agree with entirely. Lunacy to go into the season with 3 defenders and Niang and playing a back 3.
Point 2: Killip has faced the most shots on target of any goalkeeper in any of the top 4 divisions in England. We've conceded 9 goals, 1 maybe 2 are mistakes made by him but theres much more pressing areas to address before we spend some of our budget on a keeper. Preventing shots on target is a much more pressing concern than Killip.
Point 3: I again agree. We have too many similar midfielders. Who out of the squad we currently have would you play? In my opinion a midfield of Sylla, Crawford and McDonald (if he can play attacking mid like the OS says he can) would give us a good balance of strength, creativity and pace.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37436

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Some people at that club are earning decent money and are not producing the goods.

And some people on here have been saying for years we don’t get decent players her because Raj won’t splash the cash. You can’t have it both ways.

Decent wages compared to what say we might get. Like what is the point of this guy supposedly looking for transfers when we have supposedly a decent manager? What a waste, of a wage, be ok if he brought decent players in, since he has arrived have we had 1? I don't get what the club are trying to do at the minute. Seems as though we are on a collision course with the national league.

Without access to the clubs accounts no one can state anything about wages, good or bad.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4448

poolie1 wrote:

billy..."relegation certainties"..

....and only 5 games in ?....that's the thing about clowns....they never truly understand why everyone finds them funny....one dimensional with zero insight.. :character-jestercolor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21qEWtCC6Lk

Only 5 games in. Scored 2 goals conceded plenty. Do you think things will look better after 10? 20? 30 games ? Who is going to score the goals to win these games? Where are the goals coming from in the midfield? A goalie you have slated every other week is he going to perform miracles? Come back after 10 games let's see where we are I hazard a guess probobly in deeper shit by then.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37436

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

This coming from the guy who thinks Scottish football was going to be our saviour this year. Looking a bit silly now aren't you? So how many games is it before you start calling the manager bonehead? Your too thick to see were the club is heading.

Subtle difference here. From my point of view I’m prepared to give anyone a chance who plays for or manages the club before criticising. I’ll back them, what’s the alternative?
You and others criticised them as soon as the names popped up….. as you couldn’t possibly know how things would turn out and still don’t, why did you condemn them out of hand without a shred of proof?

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

willy.."Any reason you’re avoiding the question in the HOOC thread or are you still thinking of some bs excuse to be taking 50% of the proceeds away from a charity"

..not a question for me mate unless you think my name is "john" ...personally i couldn't give one one way or the other.. go find john and ask the question if you are so interested sonny ..but a word of advice ...putting serious shite like that in print on here on a public forum is not being clever..you might lose a lot more than your pocket money pal that's for sure...dare i say the mods should take note or is that too "ironic" for you ?...you little dimwit..?

f/a/o willy.....https://www.brettwilson.co.uk/services/ ... ial-media/

willo11 · **Joined:** Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:36 am **Posts:** 38

Snowy wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

This coming from the guy who thinks Scottish football was going to be our saviour this year. Looking a bit silly now aren't you? So how many games is it before you start calling the manager bonehead? Your too thick to see were the club is heading.

Subtle difference here. From my point of view I’m prepared to give anyone a chance who plays for or manages the club before criticising. I’ll back them, what’s the alternative?
You and others criticised them as soon as the names popped up….. as you couldn’t possibly know how things would turn out and still don’t, why did you condemn them out of hand without a shred of proof?

They deserve a chance for definite. But how long to you continue to give them a chance if the football and results remain the same. In your opinion if this continues for another month/two months is this manager still the man for the job?

willo11 · **Joined:** Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:36 am **Posts:** 38

poolie1 wrote:

willy.."Any reason you’re avoiding the question in the HOOC thread or are you still thinking of some bs excuse to be taking 50% of the proceeds away from a charity"

..not a question for me mate unless you think my name is "john" ...personally i couldn't give one one way or the other.. go find john and ask the question if you are so interested sonny ..but a word of advice ...putting shite like that in print on here on a public forum is not being clever..you might lose a lot more than you're pocket money pal that's for sure...dare i say the mods should take note or is that too ""ironic for you you little dimwit..?

f/a/o https://www.brettwilson.co.uk/services/ ... ial-media/

Try suing me then for posting facts on here. It’s a fact that 50% of the proceeds are not going to the charity but are going to HOOC which you seem to have more than a passing interest in. Unless of course there’s a bit of criticism then you strangely distance yourself from it.

But if you feel like I’ve been libellous then crack on

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4448

Snowy wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

This coming from the guy who thinks Scottish football was going to be our saviour this year. Looking a bit silly now aren't you? So how many games is it before you start calling the manager bonehead? Your too thick to see were the club is heading.

Subtle difference here. From my point of view I’m prepared to give anyone a chance who plays for or manages the club before criticising. I’ll back them, what’s the alternative?
You and others criticised them as soon as the names popped up….. as you couldn’t possibly know how things would turn out and still don’t, why did you condemn them out of hand without a shred of proof?

Because we knew what we were in for I even said straight away we are in for a long season. When they start getting results or even being fit enough for league football come back and say yeah your totally wrong.

Funny poolie 1 and even yourself called Graeme lee a bonehead his results were significantly better than what we are having now, when he took charge. How come neither have even questioned his start? If you can't see how things are going to turn out snowy I'm shocked .

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

willy wonka..."Try suing me then for posting facts on here"

...no unfortunately i cant you f/wit ..but if i were john or the mods on here i would be sending you a nice sols letter pronto..go back to school and learn something ffs..

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4448

poolie1 wrote:

willy wonka..."Try suing me then for posting facts on here"

...no unfortunately i cant you f/wit ..but if i were john or the mods on here i would be sending you a nice sols letter pronto..go back to school and learn something ffs..

Get a grip mate

willo11 · **Joined:** Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:36 am **Posts:** 38

poolie1 wrote:

willy wonka..."Try suing me then for posting facts on here"

...no unfortunately i cant you f/wit ..but if i were john or the mods on here i would be sending you a nice sols letter pronto..go back to school and learn something ffs..

Don’t get upset, often means you have something to hide. Send me a solicitors letter then, it will mean nothing as I’ve said nothing libellous. You insult people hour after hour, day after day but you just can’t handle it when a genuine question is asked. Yet again you’ve managed to avoid answering it by being abusive and resorting to calling people names

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37436

willo11 wrote:

Subtle difference here. From my point of view I’m prepared to give anyone a chance who plays for or manages the club before criticising. I’ll back them, what’s the alternative?
You and others criticised them as soon as the names popped up….. as you couldn’t possibly know how things would turn out and still don’t, why did you condemn them out of hand without a shred of proof?

They deserve a chance for definite. But how long to you continue to give them a chance if the football and results remain the same. In your opinion if this continues for another
month/two months is this manager still the man for the job?

Ultimately the first priority is the club, forget owners, managers and players.
They all come and go, we’re here for life.

October will be the crucial month for me at the latest, but we have August and September to see how things go for now. If the football results remain the same, October will be generous for me, there has to be a sign of things coming together at least.
I suspect Raj won’t wait if this continues on past experience, but if the worst were to happen we’d need to change ships quickly to preserve the clubs league status, that is all that matters.
However I sincerely hope he gets a grip and pulls it round.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37436

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Because we knew what we were in for I even said straight away we are in for a long season. When they start getting results or even being fit enough for league football come back and say yeah your totally wrong.

Funny poolie 1 and even yourself called Graeme lee a bonehead his results were significantly better than what we are having now, when he took charge. How come neither have even questioned his start? If you can't see how things are going to turn out snowy I'm shocked .

Let’s get something straight I never called Lee a Bonehead, I never approved of his appointment by any means, but kept my mouth shut, but when it fell apart it was hard to ignore.
Lee’s start carried on from Challinor’s with the cup run’s maintaining the impetus, but when it came to the everyday League stuff he was lost and ultimately it sank to the bottom.
You say you knew what we were in for, come on that’s nonsense and you know it, no one could have possibly known.
If they do come back I won’t be saying anyone’s wrong, not my way.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

pesh.."Killip has faced the most shots on target of any goalkeeper in any of the top 4 divisions in England. We've conceded 9 goals"

..is it just me?..or has data analysis and access to the internet skewed thinking among the less fortunate to the point of sheer lunacy..for some too much data can be dangerous...no its not that flappers crap..its just that hes having more shots aimed at him than everyone else..anyways its a SQUAD game and everyone makes mistakes and hes no worse than others and a master of his trade compared to some and we have more pressing problems that need attention and surely with a bit of coaching he can be improved etc etc..."decent and improving"....yeah..right...look maybe we should just have a twitter poll to decide where we go with him eh?..FFS

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12363

When we lost the papa john's semi final many, including me, thought right let's knuckle down and make an honest attempt to get to the play offs. Yes it was a long shot but it was doable. Not many people thought the wheels would fall off and, to be fair, are still off.
It is obvious to the most ardent of fans that this scenario cannot go on and history tells us that Raj won't allow it to go on without addressing it.
All the signs were indicating to me that further investment was likely in the shape of Suit Direct but that trail seems to have gone cold, for whatever reason. ( cue some budding Mr Grimm will inform us).

Krampesh · **Joined:** Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:14 am **Posts:** 613

poolie1 wrote:

pesh.."Killip has faced the most shots on target of any goalkeeper in any of the top 4 divisions in England. We've conceded 9 goals"

..is it just me?..or has data analysis and access to the internet skewed thinking among the less fortunate to the point of sheer lunacy..for some too much data can be dangerous...no its not that flappers crap..its just that hes having more shots aimed at him than everyone else..anyways its a SQUAD game and everyone makes mistakes and hes no worse than others and a master of his trade compared to some and we have more pressing problems that need attention and surely with a bit of coaching he can be improved etc etc..."decent and improving"....yeah..right...look maybe we should just have a twitter poll to decide where we go with him eh?..FFS

I'll simplify this down for you as clearly the less fortunate can't understand.
I don't think Killip is a great goalkeeper. I have consistently said he is ok for this level. League 2 goalkeepers play league 2 for a reason. Therefore more shots on goal from other team = more goals conceded by League 2 goalkeeper. Our team (or SQUAD as you like to blurt out) has a problem with letting other teams have shots at goal. If we could prevent some more of these shots then law of averages states less goals conceded. Therefore better defenders and midfielders = less shots on goal and less goals conceded. So this is why I think more of out budget should be spent there than on bringing in an experienced goalkeeper.

Obviously football is much more complex than this with many more variables but hopefully, in time, you'll get there with the basics.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

pesh..."less shots on goal and less goals conceded"

..and there lies the ineptitude and stupidity of your thinking pal...it doesn't always follow ..there's no direct correlation...its not a binary equation...but don't expect you to understand the complexities ..maybe stick to FIFA manager on the x box..you're well suited to it..oh and of course make sure you keep us all up to date with any twitter polling you come across and think relevant

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3929

poolie1 wrote:

a few things worrying me 5 league games in and with the transfer window closing the end of the month....

1.we have started the season with only 3 recognised central defenders and when one is out injured we are forced into completely changing our shape..that's just ridiculous...if the team performs best with 3 at the back and its hartley's preferred set up given we have 2 decent wing backs then one injury shouldn't mean we have to change the formation...we clearly need another decent defender in..
2.flapper is non league imo, but as we are unfortunately lumbered with him yet again for the rest of the season, we need to have a decent keeper to bring in for competition and for when it gets worse and the shit really starts hitting the fan... which with flapper it inevitably will..and whoever we bring in needs to be experienced and capable not a young kid...
3.we have 4 defensive central midfielders and crawford and shelton...no way that mix is going to work out and so something definitely needs to change there....

..am banking on hartley being well aware of the issues despite all the talk being about lack of quality in the final third...the next few days will be interesting..

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I would go far as to say Centre half is the priorty-both Murray and Lacey don't look up to it and wouldn,t trust either in a back 4 (we can maybe get away with 1 in a back 3) on the physical side....just look what happened against Walsall--I havent seen a weaker centre back than those 2 this season, am only hoping Murray isn't fit yet.
We have played mainly good teams so far but I can see the writing on the wall--playing shite teams and losing 1-0 due to an ugly goal where those 2 got out muscled.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3929

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Point 2: Killip has faced the most shots on target of any goalkeeper in any of the top 4 divisions in England. We've conceded 9 .[/quote]

That is worrying--I agree Killip isnt the problem (you can always improve on players but we have more pressing worries)--above suggests we have actually been fortunate to have a couple of points and not an even worse goal difference.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3766

It seems to me quite logical that the more shots a goalkeeper has to face, the more often he will be beaten. Of course there are variables like the quality of the keeper, quality of opposition, weather conditions etc but it seems blatantly obvious we need to reduce the shots on our goal by whatever means. When new managers take over struggling teams, the usual plan is first of all to make them hard to beat and then improve on attacking play. It seems that for a whole raft of reasons, Pools are not hard to beat and are finding it hellishly difficult to score goals. These are merely observations, my intention is not to point the finger of blame. I am not trying to provoke an argument and no doubt others will have different opinions to which they are entitled. I am just saying what I think. I am pretty sure the manager is aware of the problems and it is a question of if he has the resources to solve them and how long it will take.

ukanttouchme · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:12 pm **Posts:** 225

FWIW, if you believe in xG (seems to be all the rage these days) then we should have scored about 4.5 goals this season in the league and conceded about 8.5. Obviously depends on which games you are up or down as to how that would translate to points but suggests we could have a few more points if we had taken our chances / not been thwarted by opposition keepers. Possibly suggests Killip has been about average but subjective how you treat the numbers.

Krampesh · **Joined:** Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:14 am **Posts:** 613

poolie1 wrote:

pesh..."less shots on goal and less goals conceded"

..and there lies the ineptitude and stupidity of your thinking pal...it doesn't always follow ..there's no direct correlation...its not a binary equation...but don't expect you to understand the complexities ..maybe stick to FIFA manager on the x box..you're well suited to it..oh and of course make sure you keep us all up to date with any twitter polling you come across and think relevant

As one said in my post it’s the basics and there are more variables but I thought we’d start simple with your lesson.
Either way something needs to change we’re letting a ridiculous amount of shots be taken despite mostly playing a back 5 and having 2 holding midfielders

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

oz..."It seems to me quite logical that the more shots a goalkeeper has to face, the more often he will be beaten"

..errr...ok..two cloned flappers..one gets 100 shots from outside the penalty area...one gets 50 shots from inside.....who concedes the most?..well obviously according to your logic the one getting 100 right?...totally logical captain...ffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sghncnGkFAo

Krampesh · **Joined:** Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:14 am **Posts:** 613

poolie1 wrote:

oz..."It seems to me quite logical that the more shots a goalkeeper has to face, the more often he will be beaten"

..errr...ok..two cloned flappers..one gets 100 shots from outside the penalty area...one gets 50 shots from inside.....who concedes the most?..well obviously according to your logic the one getting 100 right?...totally logical captain...ffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sghncnGkFAo

You’re introducing another variable into it then aren’t you which is where stats like xG come in, as ukanttouchme mentioned.
Either way you’re right but if you watch the games you can tell that a lot of the shots on target are from within the box

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

pesh.."You’re introducing another variable "

...of course i am you plonker..to prove a point..there are a million other variables too..but according to you "less shots on goal and less goals conceded"..get more sense out of billy tbh...stick to your computer games and twitter polls ffs..

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3766

poolie1 wrote:

oz..."It seems to me quite logical that the more shots a goalkeeper has to face, the more often he will be beaten"

..errr...ok..two cloned flappers..one gets 100 shots from outside the penalty area...one gets 50 shots from inside.....who concedes the most?..well obviously according to your logic the one getting 100 right?...totally logical captain...ffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sghncnGkFAo

So you introduce selective variables (from where the shots emanate but the keepers are cloned) What if the keepers are not cloned? What about how the shots are placed (bottom corner, centre middle, top corner etc) what about weather conditions? The variables are considerable and significant but it seems reasonable to assume that if a goalkeeper a) has 50 well placed shots to deal with and goalkeeper b) only has 15 then keeper b) will concede less goals than keeper a) even if he is an inferior keeper. I prefer to swap opinions without sarcasm/anger if its all the same with you.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

oz..."The variables are considerable"

..well done mate..maybe feed this in to your "logical" conclusions eh?

"It seems to me quite logical that the more shots a goalkeeper has to face, the more often he will be beaten."

..you're getting there..keep it up...

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3766

As you seem unable to exchange opinions without being patronizing and generally unpleasant, I wont be replying to you henceforth.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4448

Snowy wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Because we knew what we were in for I even said straight away we are in for a long season. When they start getting results or even being fit enough for league football come back and say yeah your totally wrong.

Funny poolie 1 and even yourself called Graeme lee a bonehead his results were significantly better than what we are having now, when he took charge. How come neither have even questioned his start? If you can't see how things are going to turn out snowy I'm shocked .

Let’s get something straight I never called Lee a Bonehead, I never approved of his appointment by any means, but kept my mouth shut, but when it fell apart it was hard to ignore.
Lee’s start carried on from Challinor’s with the cup run’s maintaining the impetus, but when it came to the everyday League stuff he was lost and ultimately it sank to the bottom.
You say you knew what we were in for, come on that’s nonsense and you know it, no one could have possibly known.
If they do come back I won’t be saying anyone’s wrong, not my way.

I stated after what was it 2 or 3 games this side is relegation bound I will go a step further, unless things change dramatically I reckon we will finish bottom. If that's nonsense fair enough but I've said from the start the way we are going about things is a disaster. You can't get almost 15 new players from leagues worse than what we are in and expect to do anything. Even pep guardiola would struggle.
The only thing that will save us is a total change in the way we doing things this season.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

oz.."I wont be replying to you henceforth."

..henceforth?....i'm crushed... :laugh:

willo11 · **Joined:** Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:36 am **Posts:** 38

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

As you seem unable to exchange opinions without being patronizing and generally unpleasant, I wont be replying to you henceforth.

He’s incapable of having a decent discussion, almost as incapable as he is at answering questions put to him. Deflects and insults. Also appears to be homophobic judging by posts on another thread

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

wilo the woke.."Also appears to be homophobic judging by posts on another thread"

..as it happens you couln't be more wrong..hey maybe go copy my "homophobic" comments eh and re post them on here and lets have a real discussion about them?..but hey ho..when you back at school willy?.. :laugh:

willo11 · **Joined:** Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:36 am **Posts:** 38

poolie1 wrote:

wilo the woke.."Also appears to be homophobic judging by posts on another thread"

..as it happens you couln't be more wrong..hey maybe go copy my "homophobic" comments eh and re post them on here and lets have a real discussion about them?..but hey ho..when you back at school willy?.. :laugh:

Maybe its just a hatred of the police then, it’s one or the other. Hopefully you never require their services if that’s the case.

You couldn’t have a real discussion anyway, it’s impossible for you

Krampesh · **Joined:** Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:14 am **Posts:** 613

poolie1 wrote:

pesh.."You’re introducing another variable "

...of course i am you plonker..to prove a point..there are a million other variables too..but according to you "less shots on goal and less goals conceded"..get more sense out of billy tbh...stick to your computer games and twitter polls ffs..

I don’t know if you can read but both of my posts mention how it isn’t that simplistic. Maybe try to improve your reading comprehension

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

"maybe go copy my "homophobic" comments eh and re post them on here and lets have a real discussion about them?."

...no..not interested?...dont fancy it boy wonder?..just all mouth as i thought... :laugh:

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37436

Is it time to call it a day on this one …..it’s going nowhere. :angry-tappingfoot:

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12363

Snowy wrote:

Is it time to call it a day on this one …..it’s going nowhere. :angry-tappingfoot:

Yes I agree. Take a step back gentlemen before you force me to take action.
By all means discuss the topic but go a bit steady on the insults.

willo11 · **Joined:** Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:36 am **Posts:** 38

poolie1 wrote:

willy.."maybe go copy my "homophobic" comments eh and re post them on here and lets have a real discussion about them?."

...no..not interested?...dont fancy it boy wonder?..just all mouth as i thought... :laugh:

Like I said, impossible to have a sensible discussion with you

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

snowy.."Is it time to call it a day on this one"

...no its not snowy..this little woke prat is talking about me being responsible for thieving off a charity...dunno wtf he is on about tbh....something to do with "john"...and he is also labelling me as "homophobic" ..its just not right..it will be "racist" next..this boy needs to be told...go take a look at his comments about the gemma lee fund on the HOOC1908 thread..are you and the mods going to allow that on here or what ?

"Out of interest, the charity bike ride your mob is doing, why are you taking half the proceeds away from Gemma Lee’s fund?"

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37436

Trouble is no one can make head nor tail of this tiff and doubt anyone cares anymore….walk away.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

snowy..."Trouble is no one can make head nor tail of this tiff and doubt anyone cares anymore….walk away."

...."Out of interest, the charity bike ride your mob is doing, why are you taking half the proceeds away from Gemma Lee’s fund?"

...and you cant make head nor tail of that ?....ok..

Krampesh · **Joined:** Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:14 am **Posts:** 613

Not picking sides but the way I see it there’s 3 responses to that question
1. I’m part of HOOC and this is the reason why the bike ride is 50% to Gemma Lee’s fund …
2. I’m part of HOOC and I don’t know but this person at this email will probably know …
3. I’m not part of HOOC so I have no fucking clue

Then that can all get settled and everyone can move on

Brasil Brush · **Joined:** Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:10 am **Posts:** 1539

poolie1 wrote:

but a word of advice ...putting serious shite like that in print on here on a public forum is not being clever..you might lose a lot more than your pocket money pal that's for sure...dare i say the mods should take note or is that too "ironic" for you ?...you little dimwit..?

f/a/o willy.....https://www.brettwilson.co.uk/services/ ... ial-media/

Why not sue him then?

willo11 · **Joined:** Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:36 am **Posts:** 38

poolie1 wrote:

snowy.."Is it time to call it a day on this one"

...no its not snowy..this little woke prat is talking about me being responsible for thieving off a charity...dunno wtf he is on about tbh....something to do with "john"...and he is also labelling me as "homophobic" ..its just not right..it will be "racist" next..this boy needs to be told...go take a look at his comments about the gemma lee fund on the HOOC1908 thread..are you and the mods going to allow that on here or what ?

"Out of interest, the charity bike ride your mob is doing, why are you taking half the proceeds away from Gemma Lee’s fund?"

I’m still waiting for your solicitors letter to be honest. If you can draw yourself away from calling me names and crying to the mods maybe you can draft one up eh?

Rinkender · **Joined:** Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:36 pm **Posts:** 787

poolie1 wrote:

snowy.."Is it time to call it a day on this one"

...no its not snowy..this little woke prat is talking about me being responsible for thieving off a charity...dunno wtf he is on about tbh....something to do with "john"...and he is also labelling me as "homophobic" ..its just not right..it will be "racist" next..this boy needs to be told...go take a look at his comments about the gemma lee fund on the HOOC1908 thread..are you and the mods going to allow that on here or what ?

"Out of interest, the charity bike ride your mob is doing, why are you taking half the proceeds away from Gemma Lee’s fund?"

Oh dear how sad, the poster that spends all his time sending out insults and belittling people wanting sympathy

Poor Start

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