England 66% possession 0-4 Hungary 34% possession

Would Southgate get a Premiership managers job?

Gareth Southgate, nice bloke, tidy beard. End of.

doubt even the players were overbothered about the result never mind the vast majority of fans. these lads should be packing up their beach towels ready for pre season training. not playing in the most pointless competition since the watney cup.

Absolutely right. Couple of friendlies against sides from different continents are proper preparation for a World Cup, not return fixtures against 3 European teams. UEFA overkill, pure and simple.

Was that Pool’s excuse at the end of last season, except in our case the fans actually were bothered.

his politics aside..anyone inspired by southgate?..the mans a bore..

He’s a hole in the air.

southgate is what i call the england manager type. problem is that he is looked at as much as an ambassedor as a football coach who ticks the right boxes and can be guarenteed to come out with the right quotes and not rock the boat like his love of kneeling down. if he went today there would be a similar type of person appointed in his place. a squeeky clean bore you,d hate to be sat next to you on a long train journey.

If Southgate went the next manager would be Eddie Howe, no skeletons in the cupboard etc.

I’d like a manager with skeletons in the cupboard…Southgate reminds me of Softy Walter in the Denis the Menace comic strip, just grown up and applying an accountants eye to football.

Players knackered, heads gone, too many games, whats is this competition except money making machine.
Its total bollocks.

Maybe if the players took a rest from filming their latest ads, they might be a bit more perky.
Surely they get enough money without having to go moonlighting to make ends meet, will they qualify for the Chancellors payout money to help them .

Possession, possession, possession...yes, if you haven't got the ball, you aren't going to score. Equally, if you pass the fucker across the back four, into the midfield, back to the back four, to the keeper, to the back four, into midfield, to the winger, back to the midfield etc etc etc then you aren't going to score either. 'Yes, but we're working an opening'. Fuck off. Yawn. Nearly every game in the Premiershit is the same.

More direct passing please. Yes, but we might lose it. You also might score and you can always win the fucker back.

Thanks.

Thats all very well but you have forgotten the kneeling. All the social justice stuff making England fans feel they are appreciated. The England players using their platform to change the world. I mean football? What's that got to do with anything?

In all honesty there’s not one football player I’d take advice off about anything.

They go on about players being tired, I worked 6/7 days a week in all weathers in a physical job averaging 10 hours a day, 2 weeks holiday in the summer, similar at the Christmas/New Year break plus a few Bank Holidays. I didn’t go to work I didn’t get paid in the early days, I worked for over 45 years and never pulled a hamstring only a few cuts and bruises.
A footballer might be on the pitch 90 minutes but he doesn’t actually run about for 90 minutes yet they profess to be tired after a long season ?

I have never had a stronger feeling of being disconnected from the England team than I do now.
Was it the rise of the grossly inflated Premiership and it’s loadsamoney ‘philosophy’, are the two related ? We see the bang average stars and the silly money they’re paid, the misplaced status bestowed upon them by a fawning sports media who help keep this circus on the road.
One time a live England game as an event, now it’s an aid to a good night’s sleep, unfortunately the drowsy feeling starts just after kick off.
It’s just an over commercialised, remorseless meat grinder of a business.

Yes the highly paid underworked players whose salaries are paid by the general public one way or another. I have never subscribed to any pay for view to channel never will, I can if I want watch some games on hesgoal etc, I don’t even watch Match of the Day now.
This is Brian Clough take on football on the TV, it’s about halfway through the video,
https://youtu.be/Kd8wKQo2M6U

Yes i feel that disconnect too (+F1).

then there will be the festival of millionaires coming up later this year with games that will be worse than we will see at the vic. however we will be told how technically brilliant they are and grealish forcasted to be the player of the tournament. well there is one here that will only watch the highlights or goals and not a live game. if i want to be bored there is always murder she wrote that will have cost far less to bore me with. think the average lg.1 and 2 fan has seen through the bullshit sporting media who keep armchair fc happy.

then there will be the festival of millionaires coming up later this year with games that will be worse than we will see at the vic. however we will be told how technically brilliant they are and grealish forcasted to be the player of the tournament. well there is one here that will only watch the highlights or goals and not a live game. if i want to be bored there is always murder she wrote that will have cost far less to bore me with. think the average lg.1 and 2 fan has seen through the bullshit sporting media who keep armchair fc happy.[in

In the table part of the World Cup the teams don’t want to concede goals, pack the midfield and hope for a breakaway then defend the lead. Even in the knock out stages not much changes, possession boring football, defend deep hoping for a bit of individualism for goal, I get more excited watching Pools at the Vic.

Yep I too feel the disconnect from the England tea. I admit I was quite excited in the last world cup but then it dawned on me that if an opposing team were half-decent and put up a fight Southgate had no plan B. This was confirmed in the Euros and in addition the politics became an increasingly big part of the England football team's profile. Now I just hope they lose.

its not just a disconnect from the england team its a disconnect that fans have for the game at the top knowing that they,ll never be involved in it. do not get me on about southgate and the kneeling issue either.

With you all the way. Premiership has very little in common with every day people and like someone said earlier, I no longer watch Match of the Day.

to be fair though one of their supporters have little in common with pools fans and would not cross the road or switch on the box to watch them. the problem is that fans at the top carry with them too many glory hunters along with fans of that club who have been with them as kids. apart from garry of the day i stopped listening into football phone ins as i got cheesed off with dave from romford with his cockney accent moaning if his team, usually manchester united, dare lose a game to some arse hanging out outfit like burnley. football snobbery at its best.

All football phone ins are now a farce…. after getting beaten at home by Hungary 4-0 anyone who even hinted at Southgate being at fault was set upon by the journo’s and ex pro’s who infest these programmes like fleas in a camel, as being out of touch, not understanding the game…… funny how we’re always told to shut up and know our place because only the gobshite journo’s and ex players are apparently blessed with the ability to understand the game….. so why do we go if we see things different to them
Full of crap.

My biggest issue with the Premier League is the top clubs buy success, none of the clubs outside the top six can compete with them. Mid table teams will be there year on year just keeping their heads above water, the bottom 6 are always going to be fighting relegation.
There needs some thing put in place where clubs can only pay a limited fee for a player and wages for the players need to be kept on a level playing field.

Apart from the top six soap opera, the rest are just supporting cast and cannon fodder.

Telling it like it is, is not the way to the England manager's job.

Brian's bemoaning the Beeb spending too much time on 'experts' chatting is alive and well as anyone who has watched the test match highlights recently will testify.

sounds good, but it should be based on the number of fans going through the gates. its not the fault of man u that they have a ground 5 times larger than bournemouth and double plenty of others. worst thing is the millions they get for failure by dropping to the championship to give em an edge on promotion back the next season.

https://youtu.be/dTrb3g5nqT0.
The Truth about England and Southgate.