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 Post subject: Astra Zeneca covid jab
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2022 8:40 pm 
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Despite looking on the Internet I can see no reason why this AZ jabs never gets mentioned/ used any more.
Any ideas??

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 Post subject: Re: Astra Zeneca covid jab
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 Post subject: Re: Astra Zeneca covid jab
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 4:03 am 
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I know quite a few people who had some bad side effects after being given the AZ Vaccine, flu like symptoms for a few days.


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 Post subject: Re: Astra Zeneca covid jab
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 8:40 am 
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Jamie1952 wrote:
I know quite a few people who had some bad side effects after being given the AZ Vaccine, flu like symptoms for a few days.

know her indoors was really ill with it and i was close to ringing up an ambulance. i,m certainly not a panicker either. she never had another but its all down to personal choice again.


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 Post subject: Re: Astra Zeneca covid jab
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 10:18 am 
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I hear that the AZ is no use against the Omicron variant.

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 Post subject: Re: Astra Zeneca covid jab
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 11:34 am 
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The Astra Zeneca jab has been quietly phased out in the UK. Earlier this year the NHS stopped giving to people under-29 because they are most at risk from developing blood clots on the brain with AZ. It's not used now for booster shots either - whatever a person's age.

It's not that it doesn't work, just that Pfizer and Moderna work better and are safer (the blood clot thing).

That said, I had no side effects with my AZ jab but a 24 hour fever after I got given a shot of Moderna!


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 Post subject: Re: Astra Zeneca covid jab
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 12:41 pm 
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Flying Hogans wrote:
The Astra Zeneca jab has been quietly phased out in the UK. Earlier this year the NHS stopped giving to people under-29 because they are most at risk from developing blood clots on the brain with AZ. It's not used now for booster shots either - whatever a person's age.

It's not that it doesn't work, just that Pfizer and Moderna work better and are safer (the blood clot thing).

That said, I had no side effects with my AZ jab but a 24 hour fever after I got given a shot of Moderna!


Exactly the same for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Astra Zeneca covid jab
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 1:09 pm 
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A 26 year old man from Birmingham died last June after having the AZ jab and his family are taking legal action against the NHS


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 Post subject: Re: Astra Zeneca covid jab
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I had no problems with 2 AZ jabs or one Pfizer jab. Was very rough for a couple of days after the Moderna jab.

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 Post subject: Re: Astra Zeneca covid jab
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 2:30 pm 
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Critical Thinking wrote:
A 26 year old man from Birmingham died last June after having the AZ jab and his family are taking legal action against the NHS


Hmm. I wonder how all the people who lost relatives to Covid before the AZ vaccine was around to start saving lives feel about that?

Most medicines and medical procedures have a risk factor. You can always say no and see where that gets you.


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 Post subject: Re: Astra Zeneca covid jab
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2022 3:06 pm 
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If the estimate has a forecast of a 99% success rate, falling into the 1% is simply bad luck in my opinion.
I would go for it every time with those odds.
Unless there are other factors, I can't see where suing the NHS can be successful.

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 Post subject: Re: Astra Zeneca covid jab
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Europe seemed not to want the AZ and waited for the others.

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 Post subject: Re: Astra Zeneca covid jab
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Apparently this man developed blood clots on the brain shortly after the jab and supposedly was given "out of date advice"
It appears that the Coroner seems to agree that he should not have been given AZ.
A very sad case but Mr D. you are right to point out that nearly everything we do in life contains some sort of risk and given a 99% chance of success you would take that.


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 Post subject: Re: Astra Zeneca covid jab
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:51 am 
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think there are very few people who are not allergic to anything. you cannot ban something if only 1 per cent has a problem with something. although in todays world that would be a hard sell for many who want a 100 per cent safety rate in everything.


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 Post subject: Re: Astra Zeneca covid jab
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:09 am 
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Right from the start of the pandemic the MSM began their blame campaign from the top of their self appointed moral high ground.
We weren't prepared they accused. Prepared for what? A pandemic that was sprang upon us with very little warning?
We weren't able to test people quick enough, and we didn't have enough PPE, no sign of a cure, not enough intensive care units or beds, not enough hospitals, not enough specialist care staff, not enough ventilators, no isolation facilities in our care homes, drastic reduction in our public transport capability, the need for immediate change in our education policy etc etc etc etc.
On top of this there was the need to isolate us from each other, the need to feed a nation that was sitting at home and most of all the need for a financial package to pay for it all.
Money was thrown at these problems and experts in various fields rallied to the cause, including the armed forces.
Slowly but surely these problems were solved, not without heartache or sometimes failure.
We should have done this quicker, that quicker but don't cut corners but when the stringent purchasing rules were relaxed and rogue supply routes emerged, inevitably faulty, fake and not fit for purpose equipment was bought. The MSM jumped on that. When the pandemic started we were capable of processing 3000 tests per day. Matt Hancock promised to hit a target of 100,000 per day and the MSM laughed and criticised the bold and unrealistic target but when it was achieved the MSM looked for ways of discounting it with accusations of fiddling the figures, counting tests twice and anything else they could conjure up. Hancock realised his target was never going to be reached under the then system so he supplemented it with tests through the post, tests at home from instant kits which gave a result after fifteen minutes that he made freely available over the counter, in schools and virtually everywhere.
Testing capacity passed the million a day mark and, on the odd occasion, reached two million.
The MSM reacted with silence.
The ultimate breakthrough came when the availability of the vaccine arrived with us being first.
The first reaction from the MSM was to question whether or not it was rushed and it's safety/effectiveness.
Something which normally took years had been done in months. Why was that and how had it been possible???
It was possible because everything available was concentrated on it, money, facilities, manpower and all of that was done 24/7 until the answer was found, tested under stringent conditions, with the help of thousands of volunteers until the body responsible for giving the green light, switched that light on.
Was there joy amongst the MSM and elsewhere. Every announcement had a "but" attached and other jealous and annoyed countries did their level best to slow us down by placing sanctions and restrictions on it's production and use.
AZ was hammered then and there are still suspicions thrown at it now.
My opinion is that it protected me and most certainly prolonged my life.
Of course we shouldn't sit back on our laurels but improve where we can.
When you consider what was done and the number of lives saved in, what was a relatively short space of time, from a position of no knowledge or expertise in relation to a murderous killing machine, it was nothing short of miraculous.

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