You seem to have a puzzlingly profound belief in a less than average league 2 keeper who you appear to believe will get there eventually. Why?
It’s like tinkering with the MOT failure Lada repeatedly reaffirming your faith in it, instead of facing the fact you need a replacement reliable car you can count on.
Luckily you aren’t on the coaching staff of revered ‘Professionals’…… or are you?

Squad game. He’s decent and improving. Why go untested? Makes no sense. When we’ve signed loans they’ve not really been better keepers have they?

double.."Why go untested? Makes no sense. When we’ve signed loans they’ve not really been better keepers have they?"

..we've well and truly tested this one..and hes failed the test imo ..badly.....loans?...bilo actually looked a better keeper..should have been given more games...

surely though thats a case of if you are not fit you can point out that there are worse than you so there is no reason to change your way of life.

if they want killip to look good then bring in players to make him look good and not ones that show up his frailties. At the moment he is not the type of keeper poools really need with the size of the side and would look more compitant in one of those land of the giants outfits we see.

You treat him like some iconic talisman we can’t let go of, we’ll still be told he’s improving in 2027. You say why go ‘untested’ ? Well if we didn’t we’d never sign another keeper ever.
The so called loan signings we’ve had weren’t exactly front line keepers so that’s no comparison either.
Friends of Killip keep saying he’s ‘improving’…. so when will he finally get there as the finished product…..? A rough estimate would be nice.

double..."Squad game."

wtf..flapper drops the ball..and its a squad game?

double.."decent and improving"

..any chance you could show me clips of him claiming a corner..or a cross into our box..?

The reference to a ‘squad game’ baffled me. Outfield players yes, but keepers

still young for a keeper. could be one for the future. type of player the crowds do not appreciate. vastly underated by one and all. we know nothing because we never played at pro level. we have all heard stuff like this before.

Agree Mr A, like being told to do as your told.
To paraphrase a poster I like…..
You’re not here to have an opinion,
A mindless supporter, is an happy supporter,
Now shut up and listen to the Professionals.

Yes he did but you can't pick somebody who isn't available.
He had another keeper, the Aussie lad. He was available but Lee chose to pick Killip.
The Aussie is a better keeper in my opinion but the team pickers obviously think differently. I'm asking why that is.

Lee clearly preferred Killip to Bilokapic but Lee isn’t in the job anymore… I think ensuring we have a keeper in contract going into next season is better than not no matter who it is so think this was a smart move. Probably easier to bring in 1 first team keeper rather than 2 in a summer

at least my lad gets something right about football. the words give us your money and now shut up should be the motto of football clubs.

pesh.."Probably easier to bring in 1 first team keeper rather than 2 in a summer"

..tell you what..following that logic..lets not release anyone..keep the lot of them..will be a lot "easier" in the summer like..ffs

Yes he did but you can't pick somebody who isn't available.
He had another keeper, the Aussie lad. He was available but Lee chose to pick Killip.

The fact that Lee tried to sign an experienced, seasoned keeper suggests he was not entirely convinced by Killip. The Aussie lad was a youngster and I guess Lee decided it was safer to pick the more experienced but less reliable option. The Aussie lad was primarily signed as cover not as a serious rival for Killip's slot in the first team though by all accounts many fans thought him the more solid of the two when he was played despite his lack of experience. We need to be sure we have an experienced keeper for next season so Killip's extension makes sense but I am pretty sure any new manager will try to sign someone more solid.

two good keepers both available on frees and have Killip as back up.
Scott Flinders - Cheltenham
Mark Howard - Carlisle
Both experienced keepers we all know how good Flinders was first time round.

Until the new manager is appointed I am guessing no new signings will be made.

I’d put the first two in the basket of desirables and Killip can explore driving the mower.

add sheffield based aaron chapman to that list who has not had his contract nenewed at gillingham. big lad about 6ft6ins and obviously not bothered about travelling if you go to the gills from sheffield.

I’m not his biggest fan. I never said I was. It’s a squad game and we will need to sign another keeper I reckon. When was the last time we signed two untested keepers and what was the outcome? One thing is for sure we didn’t win one in eleven because of Ben Killip….

Poole. We obviously don’t know more about football than the professionals but we are allowed an opinion. Do you always agree with the professionals?

EVERY Keeper you sign is untested. Killip has been here three years and some people say he’s improving…..er, after three years I would bloody hope so!
What is the standard time for a keeper to finally improve to the adequate status to be a keeper.
Better idea still, sign keepers who don’t need to improve.

You haven’t improved in a lot more than three years lol. Come on them name a few ready made keepers we can sign. All you do is moan to be fair and state the obvious. We should sign 17 internationals or we lack ambition? Every keeper isn’t untested as some have experience…….like Killip perhaps…..stop talking shite

If you can translate your post into basic English I’ll make an effort to try and comprehend what you’re actually talking about…….
As for signing or naming any players, two points…… I don’t get paid to sign players…….I’m the customer, we have a wealth of so called ‘professionals’ to do that.
As for insinuating I want the club to sign top players or I interpret it as a lack of ambition is a sign your reading skills are still in the infant school category. I am one of the very few people on here who believe we ain’t loaded and have to choose wisely and have always said that for years so if you’re gonna have vivid hallucinations don’t include me in your nightmares.
You’re coming across as just another Stepford fan who knows their place, listens to the ‘professionals’, nods and smiles, and swallows it, ……. it avoids having to think that way.
As for me talking shite, you’ve got a bigger load on than the ‘Bovril’ boat on the Clyde. Jeez.

double..."stop talking shite"

.."squad game".."decent and improving"..."tested"....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34UZqP2VxRc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpy32E4Lzgk ...from 01.47

Poolie1 is your number 2. Stop pretending you are some sort of intellectual authority and answer the question. Two keepers you’d sign? Or you are saying that’s not your job and you just want to complain? When was the last time we signed 2 keepers who hadn’t played for the club and how did that go?

Not exactly the point is it? I’d rather ensure we have an 11 of contracted players going into the season so we know the signings we make wont decrease the quality of our best team. My point is that I’d prefer to know we have an ok keeper (in this case Killip) so if we end up signing a player who doesn’t work out then our goalkeeper isn’t worse than the season prior.

I also like the way you deride our Recruitment guy by calling him a geek at every opportunity but have total trust in him to bring in a pair of goalkeepers better than Killip

Is this your new catchphrase for life, ‘NAME TWO KEEPERS YOU’D SIGN’ ? There’s nowt ‘intellectual’ about buying players and it’s the clubs job not ours, our opinion has no bearing whatsoever on who the club signs.
I just love how you pompously describe anyone who doesn’t comply with your opinion as complaining, never knew it was illegal to complain/ have an opinion, or praise come to that.
You end by asking us to name the last time we signed two keepers and asked how it turned out., I haven’t a clue, but if you’re that bothered do the research yourself, if it’s that important to you.
The results are awaited with interest .

pesh...."Not exactly the point is it?"

1....you say flapper is an "ok keeper"...i say he isnt...no way he should have been given an extended contract..he is a big part of why our defence has struggled for 3 years..there is video evidence to back up what i say..whats yours?
2....geek boy needs to go..he should not be here..you are new so read his thread on here and read up on his background..the only reason he is here is because hes boneheads mate..never played football and hes a data analysis geek from borer with a degree in "sports coaching" ...head of recruitment?...an absolute joke tbh...

https://www.prospects.ac.uk/careers-adv ... s-coaching

I remember a canny few years ago we brought in 2 new goalies. They were both of dubious quality. Can,t remember their names but am sure someone will be able to. Think one of them was foreign and boy did he get some stick.
Think the other one went on to play for Ipswich to be fair, but he didn't,t impress while here.

Hope someone can throw more light on my vague recollections.

the eleventh commandment..thou shalt not sign two keepers at the same time..so sayeth the lord..amen brothers..

I think Jan Budtz & Aaron Lee-Barrett were the 2 keepers signed at the same time & both were shite!!

They came in the 2007/8 season and stayed for two seasons.
Fourteen years ago, are they to become the bench mark of failure, so we can never sign two keepers at once
But hang about, they left at the same time so …two keepers would have to follow them in but then we had Scott Flinders follow them in for five seasons and apart from one season, he monopolised the position.
As for them being ‘shite’…
Barret left Pools to join Ipswich, made 38 appearances and was given a new contract staying there four years.
Budtz went non league after Pools but was Head of Operations at Doncaster.

That’s them. And Flinders certainly isn’t the answer. Killip is 26 and given the right coaching could improve. Your welcome to your opinion Snowy as am I. I think Killip has done enough to earn his extension and others we have signed on loan have been no better. I get your opinion is he isn’t good enough. I understand that you can’t personally think of anyone better or remember the last time we signed 2 poor keepers. I also understand it’s not either of our jobs to sign the players. That is really all you are saying isn’t it? It’s not pompous of me to interpret your posts in that way is it lmao.

I don’t think you’re getting the message… a player who people keep saying is improving should get alarm bells ringing after three years at the club.
It appears there is a strange belief he can never be replaced because there’s no one better…in your opinion.
So how do all the other clubs in this division manage to sign keepers with consummate ease……baffled that.

Yes that's them. Lee Barrat went on to have a decent career. Played in championship which Killip will probably never achieve.(cue Snowy and poolie 1 ha).
Proves you never know what the future will bring and what a lottery signing players can be.

medium..."you never know what the future will bring and what a lottery signing players can be."

..there are only two certainties in life...1...death...and 2...that flapper will stay on his line....

You talk as though there’s some vindictive campaign against the bloke….. if he goes on to have a glittering career, good for him, but it’s a pity he couldn’t start now.
It’s so simple, you think he’ll improve, I think we should have signed a keeper who didn’t need to improve.

Medium - Barrat had a decent career? Apart from 38 games at Ipswich the record says he never played another game.

He got an initial contract at Ipswich and they gave him a further contract, maybe he was just warming the bench in his second spell…..?

I stand corrected. Twas a long time ago and I never took too much notice of his career. Surprised at the time he was signed by such a big club. Maybe he was shagging the managers wife and she put a word in.

IMO i think we will look for a GK who is better than BK and let them scrap it out for the number 1 spot.

That has to be plan A.

Or maybe they saw room for improvement.

if he had been an outfield player i doubt anyone would be saying they should stay just on the off chance that they may improve. shown no great change in form for me and there is as much chance of carver scoring 20 next season than him getting man of the match awards.

The reason we have probobly signed killip is because he will be cheaper than most keepers we can get, nowt to do with ability, it will be the easy option for us to take. I know we don't know what he is on money wise but he came from a team about to be relegated to national league South, he won't of been on much.Until we move away from just handing out contracts like this we will always struggle.

Why has it to have been a cheap option? The fact Ferguson signed shows we must be offering decent money. There again I’m sure we could get better than Killop just as cheap.

We can't possibly get everything on the cheap, but a keeper already with us as first choice, saving us from having to go out and get two at once will help towards financing other parts of the team. It's the forward line that worrys me. We can get away with killip for another season, but two forwards who don't look capable now have got to be a major concern.

Yes but how do you know Killop is on the cheap. What do you know? Killop is a southerner who I’m quite sure could pick up a non league club down south if the wages up here are poor. By the way I would not have signed him.