i see a Exeter fan was ejected from the ground for Booing the taking of the knee, i wonder what reason they gave him for doing that ?

You can't imagine having offensive comments made to a worldwide audience as being very nice but you are willing to go to some length to do that very thing to a fellow member of this forum.

i dont see how its racist to boo obviously he doesn't agree with it like a lot of people and he is voicing his opinion

rightly or wrongly its nor racist though he hasnt as far as we know said anything remotely racist

I'm all for equality but BLM don't want equality, they want the white races to prostrate themselves and self flagellate. They can fook right off for me.

It’s just about respect really isn’t it? Booing people showing their respects to others for whatever reason isn’t acceptable. Exeter really didn’t need a reason to throw the idiot out but he gave them one and BLM have their right to voice their opinion. Why are people sick of it? How does players taking the knee really impact your life? They are highlighting undeniable racism and under-representation throughout society and in the governing bodies of football and sport generally and it will take a long time to improve. Not showing people respect or saying I’m all for equality .... but ..... is all part of the problem. Some people just aren’t willing to reconsider their views unfortunately. There is good and bad in all elements of society too. Posting links to videos to try to support or justify opinions and try to stir people’s emotions is also pretty poor IMO. You have your opinions fair enough. I’d urge you to have a think about them but that’s up to you.

Nothing but a global law breaking vigilante institution.
If they take there ways into football grounds when they up to fullish capacitys there will be hell on.
End the knee bend it's run its course.

Off topic I'd says it's 50/50 wether 2000 fans can enter the Vic for the Stockport n Halifax games.
A decision due at 11:30 today.
UTP.

Not everyone sings from the same hym sheet.
It's called Opinionuization.

The statue throwing violent protests during a global pandemic is not enough for some people.Just wait till the grounds start filling up .

As long as I can remember the traditional way of fans demonstrating what they don't like on a football pitch, is by booing.
So are we now going to have regulations on where,what and when we can boo??
For instance if the referee is wearing black we can't boo him, because someone construes that we aren't booing the man but the colour of his kit, or we can't boo a black player for the same reason, or even we can't boo Blackpool or Blackburn, equally for the same reason. Are we allowed to boo The All niggers rugby team or their Haka.
Are we going to have people hold up instruction boards saying "allowed to boo or not allowed to boo". Or even a green flag for boo and a red flag for don't boo, Apologies to people with red coloured skin, those with blood pressure and women who favour bright red lipstick and the men who fancy women who wear red coloured lipstick, not to mention the Chelsea Pensioners and any team with a red kit.
Is booing rival fans classed as picking on a minority group??
The next thing we'll see is booing being banned at Pantos, especially as booing the ugly sisters will be seen as abusing the minority group of Transvestites.
I would ask where is it all going to end but the person to answer that question accurately hasn't been born yet.

Remember Leo Fortune West claiming racism every time he was booed. Did it at Darlo and I believe he did it at Pools too?

I have read some stupid things in my time but that takes then biscuit. You must be a simpleton if you believe any of that is true. Its not the motion or action of booing but what they are booing at. What you cant see is you obvious racist nature embodied in your comment about and your post from the past. Either is you haven't been educated to know any better, come from a racist background or just are to simple to understand why your points can be shown to have racist undertones.

That is 100% one of the stupidest posts I’ve ever read on here by derwent

In its full 14/15 year history

He’ll just delete your post now

The Dunning-Kruger Effect. A lot of people underestimate their inherent racism because they never developed the mental skills required to recognise their own prejudices. The most prejudiced people are also the most likely to underestimate how biased they actually are. Living in a false reality.

Leo Fortune West seems like he has done quite a bit for anti-racism over the years. I think it is fairly well established that there is racism in football/ society.

Ah yes the Dunning-Kruger Effect. One of the modern interpretations being offered as an example is Donald Trump, a man whose estimated worth is two and a half billion dollars and was elected as US president.

Don't like the man personally. I think he is a racist and as I'm well known as an anti racist campaigner, we have nothing in common.

However I would like to meet Mr Trump and during the meeting I would do my utmost to persuade the man to invest in Pools and then I would persuade him to ditch his racist tendencies and join me in the great fight.

You wouldnt take his money given where it’s come from. You’d just want him to denounce racism right? You being a big campaigner and all.

He will mention trump at his next black persons focus group in his village that he seems to have weekly

I wasn't suggesting he would or should give me money personally but you keep carrying on jumping to conclusions, as is the trend, or so it seems. I inferred to him investing in Pools. They of course could turn down the offer of investment should they wish, perhaps for the reasons you are alluding to. It would be fantastic if you could list where his money came from so we're all privy to your knowledge of the sources of his wealth.

No I actually don't just want to persuade him to denounce racism, I also want him to donate his wealth to BLM for them to distribute where they see fit but I was keeping that a secret, me being a big campaigner and all, as you put it. I'm sure you will agree with me that BLM will distribute it with unerring fairness without fear nor favour

What do you think? Good idea or what??

We could have a slogan. How's about.....Make Trump's Money Matter. or Come on Donny, give it back.

You're too late, I mentioned it at last week's meeting.

What do you make of this?


https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/july-aug ... not-unity/

It’s a magazine paid for by a conservative supporting businessman and co chairman of Crystal Palace who is a donator to the reclaim party who are supporters of the All Lives Matter response to the BLM movement. So I wouldn’t be surprised with the views contained therein. What do you make of it Sussex?

Did you read it all? see a reflection in the mirror??

Yes I read it and no I don’t see any reflection. I see a perspective I don’t agree with projected by a minority publication of the right. What do you see Sussex?

Try reading it again,or get PJ to explain it to you.

Ah so don't you think minoritiy groups should have a say.

It’s good that we take the views of everyone so that we can understand the extent of the problem. You seem to be avoiding answering any questions yourself Sussex.

Just how many examples of hypocrisy do you need ?


Give it a rest luvvie.

Hypocrisy by who? Give me ten for a start. I won’t give up on you Sussex.

Hypocrisy by who? Give me ten for a start. I won’t give up on you Sussex.

.The world is in a very difficult position at the moment Double Figures and you still you have this wokey agenda going on..just let them watch the footie eh?

Thanks DF..how long before they ban "He's behind You" at the panto's eh ??

Baffling stuff Sussex. You watch the footie and try not to feel threatened with the whole knee thing eh?

i just want them to fuck off and let me watch football and sky news in peace without having the fucker rammed down our throat every few minutes

If the players did that there’d be no game to watch. Read the news instead of watching it. Then you can just read the bits you are happy hearing. Why so angry?

Angry because they are racist.

Anyone who has an issue with anyone taking the knee, raising a fist etc in any well publicised or documented arena obviously is to simple to know why they are doing it or simply is a racist

and you can fuck off as well

The worst racists are the ones who commit these horrendous terrorist attacks against the lighter skin country's.
England USA etc
9/11 I don't think Trumpy is a racist just wants world piece and his fellow countrymen to live a safe life.

Just thought I'd put this subject into perspective and a reminder that it's not all one-way.

What about Oklahoma bombing and all the bombs IRA did in this country or all the shootings in schools in USA or the nutter in Scandinavia where they all “lighter skin” people against lighter skinned people?

A terrorist is a terrorist irrespective of race or religion.

It’s like arguing with my since dead grandparents and uncles who couldn’t see why calling someone they grew up with in Gordon street “N****R” Albert was racist. There was no one else in the street called Albert but they did it so they “knew who where talking about”

I agree calling a black man a nigger is derogatory to them but why do they call each other it. ??

If these footballers are so for this black lives matter and spend 5 seconds on there knee with there first in the air why don't they do some real good and go on the streets preaching to the kids about knife crime ?

I'll tell you why because they couldn't give 2 fucks about them there was over a hundred stabbed to death last year, they do the knee to look good and then they go home to their swanky houses feeling all good about themselves

thing is they are all young blokes and full of themselves just like we are or were in our 20,s. its all about me or at the best me, partner and kids. they may think about black on black knife crime but forget once they wake up the next day. same for plenty of young white lads when they see rough white sleepers on the streets. never agreed with the knee thing from day one in sport but was nowhere near as bad as our olympic football team doing the nazi salute at the 1936 olympics.

one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Nelson Mandela, who spent 27 years in jail for his terrorist activities, is testimony to how his fight for freedom won the day. He became one of the most venerated world leader.

The IRA wanted their country back , just as we wanted the Falklands back, yet one is called a terrorist and the other not , why is that?

Whilst there are terrorists, those in power like to besmirch though with legitimate arguments as terrorists to suit their narrative, for example people like Che Guevara and even Corbyn for christs sakes.

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The IRA wanted their country back , just as we wanted the Falklands back, yet one is called a terrorist and the other not , why is that?

the problem with the IRA and other terrorist organisations is their bringing terror to other countries and peoples of that country who can do nothing whatsoever to help their cause. innocent people being killed only hardens attitudes against them even if you could originally see their point of view.

In an earlier post yubep referred to page one of this thread. I've just had the chance to re read page one and this is the first, most obvious racist remark that jumped out of the page.

As yubep referred to page one and not just a part of page one, I assume he has actually read this post himself, so I was wondering why he hasn't took issue with this post.
Could it be possible that he doesn't actually give a toss about racism but just wants to cause trouble on this board by selecting some posters to attack whilst ignoring blatant racist remarks from his mates.

Maybe Compo didn't write that, maybe it was one of his neighbours usurping his account to make mischief. The trouble is that yubep ridiculed me when I informed him that had happened to me at the hands of one of my neighbours, so having ridiculed the notion previously, he wouldn't resort to that as a solution, would he??? Well you never know.

The question is, no matter how it arrived on page one, why hasn't our self appointed racist policeman jumped on it????

Sits back, opens the popcorn and awaits the tirade of outrage and abuse which is about to emanate from the self appointed anti racist department. Anti racist my arse.

Agree, innocent people got killed in Ireland by the British as well.

How do you expect the David to beat Goliath ?

Terrorism usually results from a system that is so unfair, people are put in a position where they have no other option. The IRA usually gave at least an hours warning, to save innocent people getting slaughtered.

You sir are beyond the pail. I have never and would ever write that. If you know my past history or relationships or my family then you would know why.

I think you are an uneducated individual who has driven this board into the gutter and lowest common denominator.

I hope old age and retirement dont cause me to loose my moral compass or even mental health like obviously it has with others.

I will close and leave with that Send the buggers back!.

Ahhhh I see what’s happened when I write y-o-u d-a-f-t r-a-c-I-S-t it changes to Send the buggers back!

You and Mr I are sad little men

Did they do that in Warrington? Or Brighton?

As I said usually, human error or just some mad bastard who went rogue , or maybe British intelligence or police not heeding warning or even letting it go ahead so that it looked bad on the IRA. They could've killed thousands more than they did , if they had wanted to, best example been the bombing of the Canary Wharf , that could've been a massacre had they wanted it to be.



A bit like Bloody Sunday you could say, when things don't always go to plan.

Did they bollocks poor young kid Tim Parry blown up while shopping for a present for his mother

How anyone can so such a thing like that is beyond me

He is a more fitting reason to observe a bit of respect before a sporting fixture or maybe all the children blown up after the manchester concert, but nope lers do it for a violent criminal thousands of miles away and dont say its not for that reason because its all started from that if it never happened we wouldn't wven be having this debate